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Acolyte

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Posted - 15 Feb 2018 :  17:37:57  Show Profile Send MayNovember a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Wondering who ruled the elves, or what was there system of government, during the time after the fall of Myth Drannor, and before the Retreat. I've found references to 'lords of elvencourt' and 'royal family', but that's it.

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There wasn't a singular ruler of the elves of Cormanthor after Eltargrym died. The Elven Court was ruled by a council of nobles, sort of like Evermeet was ruled before Zaor.

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Posted - 15 Feb 2018 :  18:02:43  Show Profile Send MayNovember a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has there ever been anything written about them?
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Check out Snowbloods Deviant art page. He created a lot of Edition Neutral PDF's about the Forgotten Realms Ancient Empires. Some is cannon, some is homebrew. I have a copy of each one saved...


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Nothing has really been written about them, no. The only canon reference I can think of is in the Fall of Myth Drannor module, where it talks briefly about setting up Elven Court in the middle of the war, and that a number of noble houses moved there. I would pick and choose the ones I wanted from the list of noble houses in Cormanthor, skewing it toward the haughtier gold and silver houses.

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So I posted, but then reread the OP and realized I had misread it, but I will still list what I posted:

The Coronal rules over all (the elves), and the position is somewhat monarchial.

Below the Coronal, there are local rulers of various sites and other cities, such as Semberholme. In other words, noble families.

Then there are the High Mages, which, while not political figures, still hold great influence over the People.

This information was before the Fall of MD, but I sitll believe it is relevant. The Elven Court likely continued to rule. I don't remember if there was a coronal or not, but I know Ilsevele became Coronal after the Reclamation.

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Ed did a post once here about this topic. There were several groups. Each village had Elders. There were the Moonshadows that patrolled around Semberholme. There was also a group that monitored the edges of the forest - I forget the name.

To my knowledge there was not a main leader - and CD is likely right, that was let to the Elven Court.
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The elders of the various villages were likely part of the elven court, too (and, at least before the Fall, would probably have been considered among the "noble families", and would thus be present at elven court meetings).

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Posted - 02 Mar 2018 :  23:47:55  Show Profile Send MayNovember a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My understanding is that Eltargrim was the final Coronal to rule over Cormanthyr, from Myth Drannor, and their were no other Coronals in that land after his death. I'm curious if there is any cannon realmslore on the Elven Court nobles, or whomever, after the fall of Myth Drannor, until the majority of elves left that place for Evermeet. Also curious what the 'Elven Court' site was like. Much thanks!

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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

So I posted, but then reread the OP and realized I had misread it, but I will still list what I posted:

The Coronal rules over all (the elves), and the position is somewhat monarchial.

Below the Coronal, there are local rulers of various sites and other cities, such as Semberholme. In other words, noble families.

Then there are the High Mages, which, while not political figures, still hold great influence over the People.

This information was before the Fall of MD, but I sitll believe it is relevant. The Elven Court likely continued to rule. I don't remember if there was a coronal or not, but I know Ilsevele became Coronal after the Reclamation.


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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 04 Mar 2018 :  18:33:15  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Elven Court used to be a physical place, established during the Crown Wars, but was destroyed, and the name "Elven Court" was kept for the meetings.

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