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Brimstone
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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  23:15:49  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
New book in May.

Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 03 Feb 2018 :  00:33:12  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seems they didn't used a Realms character for the title's name this time.

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...
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Ayrik
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Mordenkainen was mentioned even fewer times in Realmslore than in Planescape, lol, at least before 4E.

But I do think "Larloch's Tome of Foes" or "Volo's Tome of Foes" might be a more interesting read.

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Wooly Rupert
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And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 03 Feb 2018 :  01:48:23  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Probably changed it up because the complaining about the names of the other books...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

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Brimstone
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Posted - 03 Feb 2018 :  01:49:40  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn.


LOLOLOL

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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Raistlin will always be my favourite character.

“Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!”
#8213; J.R.R. Tolkien

*I endorse everything Dark Wizard says*.
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moonbeast
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  04:37:06  Show Profile Send moonbeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's still a better working title than Dagnabbet's Fuzzy History of the Realms
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Brimstone
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  14:56:06  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Tome is going to add the Gith and some other Races...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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Brimstone
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  15:03:59  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
What we know in no particular order (thanks to various posters below):
130+ pages of monsters
Structurally similar to Volo's Guide to Monsters
"Conflict-themed"
Blood War, Githzerai vs Githyanki, elves vs drow, dwarves vs. duergar, other planar conflicts; also under dark vs planar conflicts such a Gith vs Mindflayers.
Greyhawk is the primary example for the core race lore
At least half the monsters are CR 10 or above
Advice on running high CR monsters
Focus on cosmological conflicts
Gith, mindflayers, drow, elves, elastin, shadar-kai as an elven sub-race, sea elves
Shadar Kai gain Trance, Fey Ancestory, Keen Senses, Elvish, (they had Darkvision already), and a 700 year life span (or more)
Many monsters are Shadowfell-related
Guide to Planes for DMs
Planar subraces
Backgrounds for tieflings
8 tiefling subraces: Zariel, Mephosilies, Belzebub, Feirna/Beliel, Glaysa, Levisitus, Dispater, Mammon
Cultists (abyssal and infernal)
Archedevil and demon cults
Devil society, hierarchy, government, bureaucracy
All common races except humans touched on
Shemeska the Maurader
Leviathan as an Elder Elemental that is Tarrasque level
Playable Mindflayers will never, ever be a thing in D&D
Plenty of random tables for both DMs and players
Clockwork constructs built by gnomes
Gnome invention table
Non-humanoid eldarin
New yugoloths
Elves have so many different forms because they used to be shapeshifters before their fall from being Fey

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep

Edited by - Brimstone on 06 Feb 2018 15:08:18
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Wooly Rupert
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Hmm. A couple of those things sound interesting.

And it mentions Greyhawk... So at least there is some connection, however tenuous, to the setting the title implies a connection to.

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moonbeast
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Tiefling sub races based on their ancestry traced to a specific ArchDevil .... I kinda like that idea
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Zeromaru X
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I guess they already did that in an UA. I want to see what changes they did to they idea in the book, though.

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...
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Brimstone
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  21:11:13  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep
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George Krashos
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  21:18:19  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...



Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Feb 2018 :  22:53:29  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...



Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.

-- George Krashos



Not only that, but it's not uncommon for fae to be some sort of shapeshifters. So it doesn't surprise me that before "locking in" their current forms, the proto-elves had variable forms.

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Ayrik
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I personally find the bolded part about elves utterly disinteresting. Utterly disinteresting.

I'm very interested in the snippets about giths and mindflayers, devils and yugoloths and tieflings and the Blood War, planar/cosmological conflicts, new planar races, Shemeska the Marauder, etc. Even if it's post-3E pseudolore.

Not to dismiss all the stuff about elves, drows, shadar-kai, and fey as being unimportant. Just saying that stuff is as unimportant and useless to me as stuff about giths and tieflings and planeslore might be to others.
This tome looks to be a big Volo-style collection of loosely-unrelated things, a little bit of something for everyone.

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Markustay
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I hated the title at first, but I've warmed up to it. Mordenkainen was once THE 'D&D Mage', before anyone ever heard of that El-whatsis guy.

And I hate to admit this, but I will be buying this as soon as it comes out - I am both dreading and eagerly anticipating it.

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn.
That will be the Darksun campaign guide.

The Dragonlance campaign guide will be entitled, A Warforged guide to someplace he's never been".

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Markustay
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I've made my own explanation to the Shadar-Kai elsewhere (even gave them a sub0name: Shader-Kai), connecting Gydion from RL to the Shades, Hope they do something like that.

I also hope - since the seem to be converging the Shadowfell to some degree - they cover the Malaugrym, but something tells me, given the title, they will avoid realms-specific 'monsters' (although, with their new 'universal' approach to D&D, Malaugrym should just be D&D monsters now, not FR, especially given they don't even live in the Realms).

Considering the shapeshifting and where they're going with the elves, they may even plan on combining the Malaugrym with the Shadar-Kai somehow. Maybe the Malaugrym can become the 'Shadar-Kai nobles', or some-such (I don't like it - just trying to second guess what they would do).

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...
Oh, you mean the song I've been singing since back when I was a heavy-poster on the WotC boards?

ALL fey are shapeshifters - its the nature of the feywild - its 'in flux' (nothing, not even physical matter, is 'stable'). Fey that have been out of the Feywild too long (several generations, with no periodic visits) lose their fey heritage abilities. Its really the only explanation for everything. Nice to know someone was listening to me (I knew they were, after they did that thing with Gruumsh and Corellon). Whats that saying? "The squeaky wheel gets the lore"?

The whole book - excpt maybe the parts about the Bloodwar, has me highly interested. Its all stuff I keep talking about. Can't wait to find out the deal with the Gith and Tiamat.
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...



Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.
And the sea elves... who just look longingly at the sea and then become... sea elves...

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 07 Feb 2018 01:06:21
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Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary



Is that a cookbook?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary



Is that a cookbook?


A licensed Dungeons & Dragons tie-in to the manga series Delicious in Dungeon, obviously.
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Markustay
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What about the late 2018 Strahd's Guide to Building Better Relationships?

Its guide to hybrids, 'halves', and crossbreeding...

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

What about the late 2018 Strahd's Guide to Building Better Relationships?

Its guide to hybrids, 'halves', and crossbreeding...



Cool, Hopefully its got rules for half-dragon, half-troll, half-construct, half-vampire, halflings

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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Ayrik
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Half-halflings and double-wookies?

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I'll buy it, just for lore updates, if nothing else.

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