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sleyvas
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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  23:08:16  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I know I can find "tree" people. I know I can find "fungus" people. I know I can find "thorny" and "vine" people. What about "flower" people? Any good examples in any books?

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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  23:19:43  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nevermind, I found the woodlings template. Hmmm, they have a picture of a woodling's monitor lizard. Woodling Dinosaurs....

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Markustay
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Now you have me picturing a race of 'Flower Children', who would just be vegetable hippies.

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-I don't know how complete this document is, but this PDF is pretty comprehensive in all of the 3e era templates:
http://chet.kindredcircle.org/pdf/DnD3.5Index-Templates.pdf
-Some were cool, but some were kind of redundant and/or unnecessary.

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Well, there were Moander's minions. Quite fitting.

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Yeah, after looking at Ixalan, I was intrigued by the merfolk. I started thinking "so they're very pretty nature people", and it hit me... I'd been talking about the gods transforming humans to "punish" them for transgressions (and punish my not be the reason for them all). So, I'd already been figuring that Watil would punish her people by turning them into jungle hags and vegepygmies. However, I was also thinking there might be some people which she rewarded by turning them into flower people. These people would be known as the Watilii, and I'm picturing them as mostly green and blue skinned, but they'd have these "petals" coming off them (like a crown around the head... "wings" off their shoulder blades, elbows, shins, and possibly waists like skirts... maybe women have the skirts and men had like a fan tail like a peacock). These would come in all kinds of colors (blues, reds, purples, yellows, oranges, pinks, and even deep purples/blacks, more often than not a mix of such). Maybe when the women excited their skirts kind of lift and flutter around them (maybe similar with the men, where their "tail" may normally bend down, but when excited it stands up like a fan).

I realize too that this is somewhat a copy of the Southlands by Kobold press, in that they introduce a plant people called the Kijani (who ironically want to change themselves from being a plant people to being mammals... something I don't want). However, other than both being a plant people the two won't be similar. I also picture these being a shy people who stay away from most of the other cultures.

Along the same lines, I'm definitely picturing these people learning magics to change "beasts", and so like the thorny being a vegepygmy adapatation of a beast, they surround themselves with dinosaurs and landwyrms that are essentially "woodling" dinosaurs and landwyrms (and maybe other creatures).

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Not sure what system you are playing, if it is Pathfinder, NeoExodus has the Dalreans which should be easy enough to convert to your needs. PM me if you need more details.

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Posted - 15 Feb 2018 :  09:29:54  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Flower Shalarin?

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sleyvas
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Posted - 15 Feb 2018 :  22:45:58  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire

Not sure what system you are playing, if it is Pathfinder, NeoExodus has the Dalreans which should be easy enough to convert to your needs. PM me if you need more details.

Dalrean



Hmmm, the look is wrong (its a big green dude), but it did make me think about something. I have the natural human tendency to think anything vaguely humanoid should possess certain of our characteristics... eyes for one... mouths as well. Though that Dalrean didn't look like what I was picturing... making what I'm picturing a little more alien might make more sense. No eyes. No mouth. similar to the saurials maybe they communicate via scent. Also, maybe they eat via "absorbing" things via their roots.

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I like the look, but I'd shrink 'em down, and make them a type of fey (no-one ever said all fey have to be 'animal').

*Hmph* - weird how typing a single sentence can send my brain off into a whole 'nother direction. Now I am thinking 'talking animals' (a'la Narnia) are really nothing more than fey in animal forms. Not fey in animal forms - they would actually be 'fey animals'.

And now typing that has me thinking of my whole 'lessening' lore having to do with the creation Myth stuff. What if all animals could talk? Originally, I mean. Then when the world became 'lessened' (broken), just like so many other sentient creatures, they lost the ability over time. It does reek of Narnia, but since we have Aslan (Nobanion), I'm not really thinking its too far-fetched.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  00:03:03  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I like the look, but I'd shrink 'em down, and make them a type of fey (no-one ever said all fey have to be 'animal').

*Hmph* - weird how typing a single sentence can send my brain off into a whole 'nother direction. Now I am thinking 'talking animals' (a'la Narnia) are really nothing more than fey in animal forms. Not fey in animal forms - they would actually be 'fey animals'.

And now typing that has me thinking of my whole 'lessening' lore having to do with the creation Myth stuff. What if all animals could talk? Originally, I mean. Then when the world became 'lessened' (broken), just like so many other sentient creatures, they lost the ability over time. It does reek of Narnia, but since we have Aslan (Nobanion), I'm not really thinking its too far-fetched.



Just to note, since this is for Katashaka, I'll bring up some of what I'm doing there as well. One of the regions I'm doing is the "Wakanari Highlands". Its going to have primarily cat folk (tiger folk, leopard folk, lion folk, panther folk... but also tabbies and calicos) and bird folk (parrot folk, toucan folk, Hildebrandt starling folk, cockatoo folk, peacock folk). However, its ALSO going to have griffins of many types, dragonnes, sphinxes that are the rulers... and winged cats such as tressyms and winged great cats. Many of these winged "animals" will be awakened, but they don't have the ability to speak (their throats aren't made for it). There will also be tons of parrots,cockatoos, etc.. who are also awakened, and they'll be talking.

Anyway, where does this hook into flower people? Maybe like Myconids, they produce a spore than can generate telepathic rapport for communication. However, maybe another spore type can awaken intelligence in animals. I could also see these flower people in this Wakanari Highlands society, especially given the 2 "manifestations" of god-like entities I'll have there (one being Nobanion in the form of a giant winged lion, another being a fire/sun "manifestation" in the form of a fiery larger-than roc-sized phoenix. They will also worship Ix Chel, a jaguar goddess of rainbows, rain, fertility and weaving). These people also have reverence for a giant tree species that only grows there (I'm calling it the Dumacha Nut Tree). It might fit to have Watil be a favored goddess there and then include these flower people known as the Watilii.

As I write this, I'm really picturing this place in my mind... the amount of color I'm thinking is amazing... it really fits having a goddess of rainbows there.

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Markustay
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  00:55:19  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An idea: Unlike Faerūn (and most other settings, including Kara-Tur and Zakhara), there is no 'common' for Katashaka, so what if we had a 'psychic plant'? Some sort of spore/seed that you can implant inside a person's head, and it allows them to understand what someone is saying (the other person would also need one, if 2-way communication is desired). I couldn't find anything like what I am picturing, but imagine one of those headsets (gaming, phone, singers, etc), except it would be organics, like vines growing out of a person ear and covering part of that side of their face. It would be symbiotic in nature (so no harm... I think). There could even be rumors of a 'greater' variety that allowed some distance communication (although no more than a mile, I would imagine).

I actually am basing that idea off of something in the Well of Souls series of novels - the world (Wellworld) contains 1560 different intelligent species (so slightly less than D&D ), and the way all these species communicate - even though many of them don't have vocal cords, or at least, not human-like ones - is using these crystals (I think they are grown in a very exotic environment). They implant in a person's neck, and what they do is translate words spoken to the wearer so that they can understand what the other person is saying (like telepathy). It is not sonic in nature - if you focus on the other person real hard, you can see their lips aren't moving correctly, or maybe even hear a tiny bit of what's really coming out of their mouths... or whatever.

I had planned to include something like that - maybe a cache of them were found in some ruins - but I think combining this with the stuff you just made me think of is more 'organic', both figuratively and literally. Something like a plant-pod a person sticks in their ear is definitely more in-tune with a primitive/savage/ setting than some sort of scify-ish crystal.

I love the synergy we have going around here. I would never had thought of doing a plant/vine version if you hadn't started talking about 'flower children'. And just because you were so helpful, I am now going to post a link to something i did find while trying to find a visual aid for what I was just describing...

Flower Person

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sleyvas
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  01:11:57  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

An idea: Unlike Faerūn (and most other settings, including Kara-Tur and Zakhara), there is no 'common' for Katashaka, so what if we had a 'psychic plant'? Some sort of spore/seed that you can implant inside a person's head, and it allows them to understand what someone is saying (the other person would also need one, if 2-way communication is desired). I couldn't find anything like what I am picturing, but imagine one of those headsets (gaming, phone, singers, etc), except it would be organics, like vines growing out of a person ear and covering part of that side of their face. It would be symbiotic in nature (so no harm... I think). There could even be rumors of a 'greater' variety that allowed some distance communication (although no more than a mile, I would imagine).

I actually am basing that idea off of something in the Well of Souls series of novels - the world (Wellworld) contains 1560 different intelligent species (so slightly less than D&D LOL)), and the way all these species communicate - even though many of them don't have vocal cords, or at least, not human-like ones - is using these crystals (I think they are grown in avery exotic environment). They implant in a person's next, and what they do is translate words spoken to the wearer so that they can understand what the other person is saying (like telepathy). Its no sonic in nature - if you focus on the other person real hard, you can see their lips aren't moving correctly, or maybe even hear a tiny bit of what's really coming out of their mouths... or whatever.

I had planned to include something like that - maybe a cache of them were found in some ruins - but I think combining this with the stuff you just made me thin of is more 'organic', both figuratively and literally. Something like a plant-pod a person sticks in their ear is definitely more in-tune with a primitive/savage/ setting than some sort of scify-ish crystal.

I love the synergy we have going around here. I would never had thought of doing a plant/vine version if you hadn't started talkingg about 'flower children'. And just because you were so helpful, I am now going to post a link to something i did find while trying to find a visual aid for what I awas juust describing...

Flower Person



Sometimes Markustay... you are brilliant man.... I LOVE this idea.... I especially love this idea for the Wakanari Highlands. I'm not picturing a vine that enwraps the ear, but it also puts like a big beautiful flower on the side of these people's heads.

BTW, love the picture. Would have to adapt it though. I don't picture these plant people with breasts, as they aren't mammalian and don't produce milk. However, the idea of "petals" down in the female nether region.... not to sound like a pervert, but its "pretty"... and I could picture the male flower people "growing" a vine into there to implant a seed maybe.... something to make it that these ARE converted humans into flower people (converted by Watil.. thus the Watilii).... so maybe she kept them with something similar to the way they used to breed. In fact, maybe their breeding is considered a holy act dedicated to Watil? Which, actually, if I'm going to say that... maybe they might have some kind of "nursing" mechanism for their children in which the women have to "eat" the food and then they can convert it to something their children can digest. This is a bit weird, but it could really make an interesting new race.

Which, I'm just now realizing, the Southlands Kijani plant folk by Kobold press are plant people that are trying to become more mammalian. I'm kind of going the other path. These were mammalian people that were converted to plants (kind of like the Volodni, except less tree... more flower).

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sleyvas
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  01:43:33  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmm, and thanks for putting me on the path to searching for images. This is a video that you can fast forward through, but it gives a lot of decent images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3G9GGtgR98

If you got to 27:50 time there's a picture of something they're calling acanthe that fits what I'm thinking of kinda. its interesting, because it has no mouth, and they eyes it shows... could very well just be coloration on the petals. There's also a picture they're calling an ablosstrix at 51:35 that could be another variation (and I'm thinking variety should be common in these flower people).

Also, here's the same person doing similar reviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd1ckLLp9mQ

Look at 44:59. Its with white flower petals, but the same general idea with colors would be worthwhile.

This is the same person doing another set of reviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88iaqlFz9-k

Look at 17:52.... very pretty, I like how she did the eyes... also 35:17 for an orchid woman...

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I'm still looking for what I have in mind.

I found THIS, which is along the lines of what I want. I wasn't thinking flowers, but perhaps little flowers in a vine.

And here's some Fungus-folk for you, just because I stumbled across them.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  02:04:48  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow... and there's only a couple flower people here... but damn, I would love to be able to use this person's art.

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/source/gaudibuendia.deviantart.com/

Especially this
https://gaudibuendia.deviantart.com/art/Cougar-woman-574708604
and this
https://gaudibuendia.deviantart.com/art/Tigriss-2-0-634655613

She even has a beautiful phoenix
https://gaudibuendia.deviantart.com/art/phoenix-656649235

Oh, and this one has totally got me wanting to have a "mate" for the Phoenix... the Phoenix being rebirth, fire as a life-giving thing, etc... and this bird being a goddess of light or something...
https://gaudibuendia.deviantart.com/art/Firebird-498667993

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sleyvas
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Posted - 16 Feb 2018 :  02:09:31  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I'm still looking for what I have in mind.

I found THIS, which is along the lines of what I want. I wasn't thinking flowers, but perhaps little flowers in a vine.

And here's some Fungus-folk for you, just because I stumbled across them.



YES, that flower picture on her cheek is almost exactly what I was picturing for the vine communication thing you brought up.... more vine... maybe bigger flowers too, but the same rough shape.

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I found a face-painting I liked, but it was in black, so I painted over it and added some vine-leaves.

My poor attempt at showing what I mean

Note that it starts in the ear - it grows out from that, and parts of it have tendrils that burrow into the face, but its all painless - the sap releases a very mild numbing-agent. The 'berries' are new potential pods. Its fairly unobtrusive and almost risk-free (I say almost, because some jerk is going to come along who can command plants, or just cast 'Plant Growth', and you're going to have a hell of an earache).

EDIT:
More Plant People

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Now I am thinking 'talking animals' (a'la Narnia) are really nothing more than fey in animal forms. Not fey in animal forms - they would actually be 'fey animals'.
(...)


Like the hengeyokai? IMHO, they are kind of fey animals, which can transform into human or humanoid form...

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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Now I am thinking 'talking animals' (a'la Narnia) are really nothing more than fey in animal forms. Not fey in animal forms - they would actually be 'fey animals'.
(...)


Like the hengeyokai? IMHO, they are kind of fey animals, which can transform into human or humanoid form...



No, he's talking actual lion that talks, actual beaver that talks, etc... which with this idea of the vine or pretty much any kind of telepathic communication (and possibly something to awaken more intelligence in them) becomes a more believable possibility.

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Well, I had thought about rules, and I would have to say it won't work with animal-level intelligence (so minimum of INT 3). Some 'beasts' (magical) might be able to be talked to. A whale would not work because you'd have to go under water to hear 'whale-song', and that would instantly destroy the plant-pod (salt water = BAD). Dolphins, on the other hand, can 'speak' above water, so that could possibly work (do they even have ears? You'd at least be able to get an idea of what they were saying if you had one of these lingupods (same problem putting one on a dolphin as speaking to whales). A Kraken would be the same - even though highly intelligent, you'd have to get it out of the water for a time.

You could probably get some very primitive communication going with apes. That could even explain why there might be an 'ape kingdom' (the plants have given them enough speech where they can have a culture and build primitive stuff like humans do).

But an awakened animal shouldn't have a problem. And obviously, Narnian animals are awakened. Could also possibly work with special creatures, like a Paladin's Mount, a Mage's familiar, or a Druid/Ranger Companion. The Mages and Druid/Rangers wouldn't need it - they can already communicate with their pets, but maybe someone else could to if they have the ear-pod in (the animal would not be wearing one).

Shifter-animals (like Hengeyokai) and hybrids don't count - they can already speak.

I am currently thinking about vegepygmies and myconids - larger varieties. There was a very large (3') one in the new AP (Chult) that was very different than the standard variety. I'm thinking as big as 4' for vegepygmies, and maybe human-sized (6') for Myconids, but those varieties would only be found deep in the jungles.

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I don't see the sea creatures as an issue, as I wouldn't "go there" with the idea. I'm picturing this confined to the one realm so far. Just to expand on the idea though, there may be some flower people or other humanoids whose soul point is to work as "translator" for animals that are awakened but lack the normal ability to speak. As an example, a pride of awakened lions decides they would like to leave the wakanari highlands. They all possess the "scentspeech flower", which allows them to communicate amongst themselves at short range via scent. However, they come in conflict with some gnolls, so in comes a translator who can convert the scentspeech into vocal speech to basically enable negotiations.

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Its not universal, although they will be 'available for purchase' within Stormwrath (my FR version of Stormreach). On the tribal level, perhaps the witchdoctors/shamans have them, and 'maybe' the Chief, or one other who acts as 'ambassador' (although that's usually the shaman's job, or the chief's). This would go for drow and some of the other non-humans as well (not sure about the giants, though - I suppose some of the more intelligent varieties might make use of them).

There has to be a down-side, and I am not sure if I want them tied to Katashaka itself (like, the plants die a few months after leaving the continent). Permanent loss of 1HP per 6 months of use? Of course, that would mean they are growing, and we may want to enhance them as they grow (range is the most likely thing affected). So if you are wearing one for 10 years, it'll cost you a permanent loss of twenty HP, which could kill some low-levs. I guess if you die because of the implant, you become a new pod-producing plant (so I take back what I said about my doctored-pic above - the 'berries' would NOT be new pods).

The idea is, I want PCs to have them (at least one per party), so they can talk to everyone in Katshaka, but I also don't want it to be abused. Thus, they can go to Katahsaka, have one inserted (and lose 1HP), and then 6 months after they can have it extracted before it 'grows' again and takes another HP. The extraction process should be VERY painful (temporary 1D6 damage and disadvantage on all die rolls for one week because of the nagging pain). I suppose clerical magic could alleviate some of that.

Maybe tie the HP loss to an aging-like effect, so people who have them in for a decade or longer look much older than they should. That should be a secret, though, except to natives, which is why most don't have the things. Outsiders arriving and eagerly getting their implants would be considered ignorant to the natives. So lets say you loose the same amount of time you've been wearing it, so like 5 months for 6 months (same as when you lose the HP). So if you wear one for a decade, you loose ten years off your life. To many non-humans this isn't that much of a big deal, and to higher-level humans who have access to age/life affecting magics, its also not too big a deal.

And if someone finds a 'Fountain of Youth' while wearing an implant (Emplants? That's a great name!!! Empathy + Plant), things could get VERY interesting. There should be some sort of wild magic effect, or the like.

Maybe that's how Kaiju are spawned?

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Its not universal, although they will be 'available for purchase' within Stormwrath (my FR version of Stormreach). On the tribal level, perhaps the witchdoctors/shamans have them, and 'maybe' the Chief, or one other who acts as 'ambassador' (although that's usually the shaman's job, or the chief's). This would go for drow and some of the other non-humans as well (not sure about the giants, though - I suppose some of the more intelligent varieties might make use of them).

There has to be a down-side, and I am not sure if I want them tied to Katashaka itself (like, the plants die a few months after leaving the continent). Permanent loss of 1HP per 6 months of use? Of course, that would mean they are growing, and we may want to enhance them as they grow (range is the most likely thing affected). So if you are wearing one for 10 years, it'll cost you a permanent loss of twenty HP, which could kill some low-levs. I guess if you die because of the implant, you become a new pod-producing plant (so I take back what I said about my doctored-pic above - the 'berries' would NOT be new pods).

The idea is, I want PCs to have them (at least one per party), so they can talk to everyone in Katshaka, but I also don't want it to be abused. Thus, they can go to Katahsaka, have one inserted (and lose 1HP), and then 6 months after they can have it extracted before it 'grows' again and takes another HP. The extraction process should be VERY painful (temporary 1D6 damage and disadvantage on all die rolls for one week because of the nagging pain). I suppose clerical magic could alleviate some of that.

Maybe tie the HP loss to an aging-like effect, so people who have them in for a decade or longer look much older than they should. That should be a secret, though, except to natives, which is why most don't have the things. Outsiders arriving and eagerly getting their implants would be considered ignorant to the natives. So lets say you loose the same amount of time you've been wearing it, so like 5 months for 6 months (same as when you lose the HP). So if you wear one for a decade, you loose ten years off your life. To many non-humans this isn't that much of a big deal, and to higher-level humans who have access to age/life affecting magics, its also not too big a deal.

And if someone finds a 'Fountain of Youth' while wearing an implant (Emplants? That's a great name!!! Empathy + Plant), things could get VERY interesting. There should be some sort of wild magic effect, or the like.

Maybe that's how Kaiju are spawned?



Having a penalty is a great idea. Not hit point loss though. Perhaps a penalty on saves versus spells that charm or create compulsions. Thus, rulers would be very leery of wearing them, and would have court translators.

I do like the idea that they die off and you have to get a new one as well. Maybe when the plant dies, you have to make a save or have a loss of intelligence and wisdom temporarily (and by temporary, I'm thinking like 1d4 points for say a year... uncurable by magic). In fact, maybe its the "seed" formed when one of these plants dies and hampers an intelligent being that can be used to awaken animals and plants. If the person MAKES the save and doesn't take the damage, then the seed "didn't take" and is dead. But if the person DID take the damage, the seed is now viable, and can be implanted into a creature of animal intelligence OR into the soil of a tree to make it awakened (note, trees that are awakened are still not MOBILE, nor can they talk except via the "speech flower"... and thus my Wakanari Highlands now has many awakened dumacha nut trees that act as spies for the country).

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Now you have me picturing a race of 'Flower Children', who would just be vegetable hippies.



Vegepygmies + campestris = insta-win!

For those who recall the old Elfquest stories, and want a somewhat less slapstick session, we could upgrade the campestris' "singing" to the singsong poetry of Petalwing.
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Originally posted by Markustay

Now you have me picturing a race of 'Flower Children', who would just be vegetable hippies.



Vegepygmies + campestris = insta-win!

For those who recall the old Elfquest stories, and want a somewhat less slapstick session, we could upgrade the campestris' "singing" to the singsong poetry of Petalwing.



I read Elfquest, back in the day, but I don't recall much about Petalwing. I believe, though, that she was the Preserver who used a word that I now use for any kind of monster: nastybad.

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