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TomCosta
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  01:23:46  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, Matrix said Ilsevele didn't abandon the dream....
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  01:32:50  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oops! I misread the comment ^^;

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Zeromaru X
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  03:03:15  Show Profile Send Zeromaru X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Matrix. Is good to know that they left the potential for players to help Ilse to rebuild Myth Drannor, for those who didn't like the "old elven city as an evil dungeon because civilization is just for the superior homosapiens" approach.

Long ago, in the distant past, they fell into decay. The philosopher’s path... The river of glory... Even the saints resting in the darkness rise up without response and block the way...

Edited by - Zeromaru X on 09 Dec 2017 03:03:52
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George Krashos
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  13:17:40  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How do we reconcile the statement in this product that Myth Drannor has been "utterly destroyed" with Ed's comments regarding the Tree of Souls and how it was saved from the fall of Thultanthar ... ?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  14:14:17  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

How do we reconcile the statement in this product that Myth Drannor has been "utterly destroyed" with Ed's comments regarding the Tree of Souls and how it was saved from the fall of Thultanthar ... ?

-- George Krashos




Dont. For the last 2 editions a conscious decision was made to ignore (and indeed wipe away) all previous lore. As a result you cannot hope to reconcile "lore" produced with such a design philosophy.

But im just negative.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  16:09:10  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

How do we reconcile the statement in this product that Myth Drannor has been "utterly destroyed" with Ed's comments regarding the Tree of Souls and how it was saved from the fall of Thultanthar ... ?

-- George Krashos



I forget what Ed said, but maybe the tree of souls "collapsed the mythal into itself". By that, I mean maybe the tree is sentient and it drew upon the nearest major power source to generate some kind of "barrier" to protect itself? Maybe the tree itself has gone into "safe room" mode, and its surrounded by demons and devils... all of whom are greedily rubbing their hands together to try and figure out some way to break through that barrier and get their hands on this beautiful tree full of soul energy that they want to corrupt. In fact, I know a lot of folks aren't extremely fond of god theories, but maybe this tree is itself an avatar of some elven deity (possibly Rillifane Ralathil... possibly Angharradh) but one outside of the god's control and if it dies it weakens the god itself.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Dec 2017 :  16:31:14  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I recall, Ed's explanation was that there was a barrier raised around the tree itself, and the barrier punched thru the falling city of Shade.

So as I see it, there's nothing to reconcile - the parts of the city that had been reclaimed were destroyed, but a small area around the tree (maybe a circle 50 or 100 feet in diameter) was untouched.

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