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KanzenAU
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Posted - 11 Jul 2017 :  07:09:57  Show Profile Send KanzenAU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Picked up this from Serpent Kingdoms, p59, on "Magic of the Sarrukh":
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The Nether Scrolls were the results of sarrukh efforts to compile, deconstruct, and extrapolate the magic gleaned from the savages that inhabited most of Faerūn during the early days of the sarrukh empires. Penned by the Ba’etith long after the sarrukh empires had fallen, these scrolls remain an invaluable reference today.

So it sounds like the sarrukh learnt THEIR magic from humans... perhaps they extrapolated rules of magic from watching early human sorcerers?

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Aldrick
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Posted - 11 Jul 2017 :  07:25:56  Show Profile Send Aldrick a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by KanzenAU

Picked up this from Serpent Kingdoms, p59, on "Magic of the Sarrukh":
quote:
The Nether Scrolls were the results of sarrukh efforts to compile, deconstruct, and extrapolate the magic gleaned from the savages that inhabited most of Faerūn during the early days of the sarrukh empires. Penned by the Ba’etith long after the sarrukh empires had fallen, these scrolls remain an invaluable reference today.

So it sounds like the sarrukh learnt THEIR magic from humans... perhaps they extrapolated rules of magic from watching early human sorcerers?



Yes, definitely. However, I always read that entry as the sarrukh studying the magical traditions of all the various races they could locate, not just humans. From the perspective of the sarrukh, anyone who is not a sarrukh is a savage.
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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Jul 2017 :  13:13:06  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KanzenAU

Picked up this from Serpent Kingdoms, p59, on "Magic of the Sarrukh":
quote:
The Nether Scrolls were the results of sarrukh efforts to compile, deconstruct, and extrapolate the magic gleaned from the savages that inhabited most of Faerūn during the early days of the sarrukh empires. Penned by the Ba’etith long after the sarrukh empires had fallen, these scrolls remain an invaluable reference today.

So it sounds like the sarrukh learnt THEIR magic from humans... perhaps they extrapolated rules of magic from watching early human sorcerers?



Also, what TYPE of magic was being learned. For instance, did they learn of say binding the spirit of an animal to a being. I'm betting that early humans were the source of many of the races that are "monstrous humanoids" or "animal-like humanoids" now. For instance, the Tabaxi cat folk I suspect millennia ago started out as humans who took on cat like features for defensive purposes. In fact, the type of magic didn't catch on, but I suspect that early humans were similar to the Totemists from Magic of Incarnum. They probably used fetishes to take on the traits of the beasts around them. Eventually, they learned to keep these traits.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 11 Jul 2017 :  13:31:01  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Gyor


Rasheman tradition also likely had some Mulhorand influences, amoung others, although their magic originally resembled Eberron Artificers in some ways, although though now its practice is more regulated by the witches of Rasheman.



I don't think this really fits. The Rashemi magic traditions came from Raumathar. Male Raumathari were more of a "evoker" or "elementalist" society, which also focused on magic combined with swordplay. Meanwhile, the females were focused more on defensive, healing, self-help, or intelligence gathering magics with a fey influence. The male Raumathari likely also picked up some technological knowledge from their Imaskari overlords who once ruled over some of the hordelands that the Raumathari had their capital placed in

(I will note here that the hordelands maps that shows the extents of various empires has proven to be off as more products have released, as it doesn't show Imaskar reaching into Chessenta, which it did with Metos... it also doesn't show Raumathar extending down into modern day Bezantur, but we know they had a city called Kensten there.... I actually think Snowblood's map of Imaskar is probably the most true, which reaches all the way up to where Winterkeep was.... ). Note, this is further backed up by this statement from the GHotR page 18 These permanent, two-way portals were constructed as circles of massive bronze spires, each etched with an
intricate runic design said to be batrachi in origin. These Bukhara Spires allowed whole legions to pass swiftly from one domain to the next, precipitating the rapid expansion of the Imaskar Empire across eastern Faerūn. By the end of the Early Dynastic period, the empire’s borders reached from the Great Ice Sea to the Golden Water, and from the Alamber Sea to the Katakoro Plateau in Kara-Tur.

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