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Lamora
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USA
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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  01:44:01  Show Profile Send Lamora a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
So not sure where to put this, but I figured I would mention it if people haven't seen it yet.

There are now two StormTalon books already out on Amazon with at least three more coming this year it looks like. Greenwood has already released one and Richard Lee Byers and Jaleigh Johnson has one coming later on. There seems to be 120 novels planned. A little specific, but I assume Ed has a 'master' plan in the works. He seems to have some good talent working with him on this setting at least.

Is anyone planning to check out this new world? If anyone already has, should I pay the price to buy a book or two?

Markustay
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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  02:37:44  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Last I was 'in the loop', there was a game in the works to go with everything. IIRC, Steven Schend (among others) was working on that part of the project.

The goal is to connect all the settings through a single set of rules, much how 2e was all interconnected through PS, SJ, and RL.

I really wish they'd get someone to do some new maps. I gave them permission to use the ones I did (because someone may as well get some use out of them - what a waste, otherwise), but I haven't seen them use them anywhere (not that I can get on their site LOL). I think maps of the setting would get more people interested.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 13 Mar 2017 15:43:16
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  05:52:37  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One... Hundred... and twenty novels?
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  15:46:40  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The number of novels is MUCH greater than that, when you add-in the other settings (some of which - like Hellmaw - may receive as many as Stormtalons).

Of course, you could say that those other novels have nothing to do with the Stormtalons line... and I'd say you'd be... ummm..

Sorry, NDA.


"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 13 Mar 2017 15:47:26
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Lamora
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USA
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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  19:05:36  Show Profile Send Lamora a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Ed seems to be playing the long game with this setting. He also seems to have planned the whole setting out without corporate influence like what happened with the Forgotten Realms if the specific novel count is to go by. Ed's publishing group has very little cost since these novels all appear to be E-book only which I am alright with though I know not everyone enjoys the Kindle/Nook. So I am hoping this works. My main hope is for a good author to start a long series with a apprentice to master wizard in the same way Salvatore did with Drizzt. I always wanted to see that journey in the Realms, and since that looks like it will never happen, I hope to see it in Stormtalons.
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Markustay
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Posted - 13 Mar 2017 :  23:12:40  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know he has some damn good authors lined-up (some of whom can't be announced yet because they have other pending commitments).

It will only succeed if people buy them, and I can pretty-much guarantee (unless something major has changed) that the novels are NOT the only thing being developed (for example, I was also working on a fast-paced political cardgame), and all products are interconnected, and other media will be involved as well... so long as people support them. Its not going to happen if you don't start reading the novels, and if everyone is waiting to see "if it takes off", it won't, plain and simple.

I put a LOT of time and effort into making the main setting - Stormtalons - into something cohesive and amazing (built upon the solid foundation Ed himself created). I'm not sure how much of my alterations remained after I left, but I know from working with some of the folks there - including authors writing novels 'down the line' - that there is some really cool stuff to look forward to.

And the best part is, the world is literally like an RTS video game, in that there is an actual 'Fog of War' ('The Mists', or Stormtalons) covering most of the world, and as the setting moves forward, other parts will be 'revealed' (just like when you discover parts of the map in an RTS). Its pretty awesome.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Varl
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USA
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Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  01:10:51  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markustay
It will only succeed if people buy them, and I can pretty-much guarantee (unless something major has changed) that the novels are NOT the only thing being developed (for example, I was also working on a fast-paced political cardgame), and all products are interconnected, and other media will be involved as well... so long as people support them. Its not going to happen if you don't start reading the novels, and if everyone is waiting to see "if it takes off", it won't, plain and simple.


I hope they plan on sufficient marketing towards it then or people might not ever know they're creating this. I didn't know until I read this thread, so there ya go.

quote:
And the best part is, the world is literally like an RTS video game, in that there is an actual 'Fog of War' ('The Mists', or Stormtalons) covering most of the world, and as the setting moves forward, other parts will be 'revealed' (just like when you discover parts of the map in an RTS). Its pretty awesome.



Not an actual fog of war I take it, as that would imply video game or simulationist fog of war removal as per something like http://battlegroundsgames.com/. If you mean something more like area reveals per hard copy supplements, then yes, that would be awesome.

"We're not out of here in 10 minutes, we won't need no rockets to fly through space." -Parker, Alien.
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Thoth
Acolyte

Canada
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Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  11:56:17  Show Profile Send Thoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm with you Varl. This is the first I heard of it.

If they include audio books so I can listen on my way back and forth to work, I'm willing to take the plunge.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  18:59:28  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, their 'marketing' has been less-than-stellar. Basically, only people already 'in-the-loop' are talking about it, and THAT is not good. I try to repost any TEGG posts I see on my FB feed, just to 'increase the bandwidth'.

I did a bunch of 'banners' for authors, etc., to put up on their homepages, and instead of TEGG distributing them, I got chastised for creating them (because it was Hellmaw, and I was apparently 'stepping on someone's toes'). That wasn't the first 'crack' to appear in our relationship, but it was definitely a major one. Whats that quote about 'regretting favors'?

ANYWAY, that was all really between myself and one other person, NOT Ed, and not any of the Creatives working over there, who are all great people, and are doing some awesome stuff. AND it may have even been my fault... somewhat... maybe.

@Varl - It actually is a LOT like an 'actual fog of war'. Here's the thing - we don't even know (well, at least I didn't, and I was mapping the place!) if those places are even there UNTIL the 'fog is lifted'. In other words, as the fog is cleared, are those places just existing for the first time (even though they have their own, long-running histories... that don't inlcude the 'known' parts of the world), or were they always there, obscured by the Stormtalons?

And the only reason why there is any question as to whether they were 'always there' is because there have been a few, brave (foolhardy?) souls who have 'braved the mists' and traveled far within them, and didn't report seeing any of those places before the fog was lifted.

Its an enigma... and a major plot-point in the setting. I know a wee-bit of the 'bigger story' (and its BIG), but not everything, and certainly not the 'true nature' of the Stormtalons.

I was invited to stay as part of the gaming division, which I declined, and I may be regretting that now. The setting has SO MUCH POTENTIAL, and so many diverse (technology and otherwise) cultures (its humanocentric, but there are 'others' around). And I can say with some satisfaction that they are NOT just 'randomly sprinkled in everywhere' - there is a definite rhyme and reason how and why everything is where it is (so no 'Middle-Eastern-like' cultures sprayed all over the place, like a certain setting we all know), and the 'high tech' (magical steampunk-esque) areas are well-away from the 'savage' ones, so its not a 'hodgepodge' (like we see with settings like Golarion).

Trust me, its worth looking into, and investing in. It might be slow to launch, but it will (eventually) take-off, and then it will SHINE.

Cheers - M. Taylor

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 14 Mar 2017 19:01:24
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Caolin
Senior Scribe

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Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  23:07:42  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One bit of advice I would pass along. Make a better website. I think that would go a long way towards helping spread the word.

When I Google Stormtalons, this is the top search result:

http://onderlibrum.com/

This website is super confusing and it's too difficult to get basic information out of. Just my 2 cents.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
13081 Posts

Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  23:57:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Preaching to the choir.

One of my other 'problems' with them is their insistence on using Trello to communicate everything (internally), which I found extremely confusing, and inefficient. So I managed to contact most of the people I needed to talk to directly instead... and then promptly got int trouble for that as well.

Sometimes I think certain people are more concerned with holding onto their own little piece of 'management' more than they are in producing quality products. Imagine the cartographer being told not to communicate with the person writing a story directly. I'm not a big fan of bureaucracies. Never was, never will be. They are insanely inefficient beasts, by their nature.

So, to all of that I'm only going to add that the actual material - story, game, and otherwise - is pretty freakin' amazing, and if they can just 'get their act together' on the management/web end of things, they'd hit one out of the park. It always comes down to an 'if'. They're counting entirely on 'word of mouth' right now, so hopefully more threads like this one will spring up all over the Web.

I personally pledged $300 to a related Kickstarter (Folklore: the Affliction), and am currently eagerly awaiting delivery of that. "Go big, or go home" I always say. So I went 'all in' LOL.

Oh... and there will be a full line of novels and other products to go with THAT setting as well... so long as folks spread the word.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 14 Mar 2017 23:58:38
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