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TBeholder
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Posted - 05 Apr 2017 : 09:29:53
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quote: Originally posted by Zeromaru X
quote: Also, they moved out under pressure, yet somehow no one moved in.
Monsters did. You read about old elven cities, and are full of demons, devils, beholders, etc. They count as intelligent races on the Realms.
But the Retreat wasn't "Waah, those owlbears will have us oppresseded outbred and outfought!!1", it was supposedly about humans and goblinoids, no?
quote: Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I don't think Evermeet itself was a mistake. I think it's a great idea, and remains one. Elves need a sacred land.
Why do the elves need it any more than anyone else?
quote: Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
I think, if the Crown Wars wouldn't have happened, things would have looked very different.
The problem with this is that the Crown Wars are called so in plural. Things would have to look very different indeed to avoid ALL of them. Including the Seven Citadels' War.
quote: Yes, plenty of elves remained on the mainland. You have cities like Evereska and Myth Drannor (before its fall and then again after its reclamation). As a whole, the elves are still a thriving race
"Thriving"? Given that Eltargrim after long deliberation decided that transfusion and "if you cannot stop it, lead it" is the only way to survive? And the general level of decline in Cormanthyr before this? And then, the Retreat - the elves themselves figured out that they can't stand the pressure. With their pride and deep roots, this have to count for something. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch |
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 05 Apr 2017 : 16:21:50
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Well, the aren't thriving in the same way other races are, no, but they aren't entirely in Retreat anymore, either. They're not on the verge of disappearing.
And the elves aren't the only ones who need a sacred land, but considering we're talking about Evermeet here, I figured it was relavant.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 11 Apr 2017 : 04:30:20
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quote: Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Well, the aren't thriving in the same way other races are, no, but they aren't entirely in Retreat anymore, either. They're not on the verge of disappearing.
Which raised the question how much of it is deus ex machina.
quote: And the elves aren't the only ones who need a sacred land, but considering we're talking about Evermeet here,
Yep, but most of the folk around them somehow live without one, for good or ill. Does it give them something that helps? Or only a comfort blanket? Or worse, false sense of security? |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch |
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