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Man-of-Fur
Acolyte

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2017 :  21:16:05  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Just wondering how many members of Candlekeep have heard of the Forgotten Realms Archives facebook group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheForgottenRealmsArchives/

We have quite a few authors as part of out almost 6000 members. I was just curious as Candlekeep is the benchmark for Realms lore, and any support the facebook group could get from here, and vica verse, would be awesome.

Choices:

I have never heard of The Forgotten Realms Archives
I have heard of the FR Archives but am not a member
I am a member of the FR Archives
I don''''t use Facebook

(Anonymous Vote)

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...

Edited by - Man-of-Fur on 14 Feb 2017 21:20:05

Brimstone
Great Reader

USA
2972 Posts

Posted - 15 Feb 2017 :  00:16:30  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am a member. Don't really post much. Like like a post or three every now and then...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Man-of-Fur
Acolyte

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2017 :  19:33:01  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow ok, so it looks like we have a lot of Candlekeep scribes as members on Facebook. That is good to know, and makes me glad.

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...
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sleyvas
Great Reader

USA
6985 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2017 :  01:45:11  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I posted that I don't use facebook. Its kind of a lie, in that I have an account, but I RARELY go there unless someone deliberately posts something that they want me to see (so like once every couple months).

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Thoth
Seeker

Canada
31 Posts

Posted - 14 Mar 2017 :  11:13:47  Show Profile Send Thoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just joined the other day, and I must say, I am enjoying the posts. Gets me all nostalgic for FR.
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe

Greece
570 Posts

Posted - 12 Apr 2017 :  07:27:43  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am a member of the FR Archives

BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!


"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2)
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tyson170
Acolyte

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2017 :  20:53:13  Show Profile  Click to see tyson170's MSN Messenger address Send tyson170 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't know about it. I just joined.
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader

USA
2174 Posts

Posted - 31 May 2017 :  23:09:23  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Member!

Sweet water and light laughter
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RDS
Seeker

USA
25 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2017 :  15:58:04  Show Profile Send RDS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been a member for a while but I haven't posted on it.

RDS
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CylverSaber
Learned Scribe

94 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  01:53:39  Show Profile  Visit CylverSaber's Homepage Send CylverSaber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am a member, but just got a 24 hour ban for having posted a link to information *on the publisher's own site* about the new Drizzt book being released. There's really no excuse for that kind of administrator behavior; even if the admins somehow think they are serving the author's interests (and one would have to question why a fan group feels that's their place), it is completely bizarre and irrational when the information is coming directly from the publisher. Shame on you guys.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31056 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  02:29:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CylverSaber

I am a member, but just got a 24 hour ban for having posted a link to information *on the publisher's own site* about the new Drizzt book being released. There's really no excuse for that kind of administrator behavior; even if the admins somehow think they are serving the author's interests (and one would have to question why a fan group feels that's their place), it is completely bizarre and irrational when the information is coming directly from the publisher. Shame on you guys.



That is ridiculous.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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31056 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  02:30:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a member of the group, but nothing I've seen thus far has really grabbed my attention.

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CylverSaber
Learned Scribe

94 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  03:04:42  Show Profile  Visit CylverSaber's Homepage Send CylverSaber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The thing is, I like the group, and a lot of authors participate, which is a great thing. But there's just no rational reason for this. Even on Salvatore's official forum, there are multiple threads discussing the news, so why is a fan group trying to suppress it? When they've deleted people's posts on the subject, I just shrugged and thought "Oh well, it's their group, they decide" but a banning over posting a link to the publisher's site is really a bridge too far. I hope this was something done by just one overzealous moderator.
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader

USA
3593 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  15:51:23  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a member, but no longer use Facebook.

I've found that FB is a drain on my ability to create. In fact, I've enjoyed a great deal more being back here at Candlekeep as opposed to being on FB.

AD&D for me!
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Man-of-Fur
Acolyte

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  16:43:51  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now that R.A. Salvatore has confirmed the rumors of a new Drizzt novel being released, the Office Team of the Forgotten Realms Archives is now going to allow discussion of the topic. The reason post were deleted and members were muted is because we did not want to deliver false hope to our membership until the news was confirmed by reliable sources. We are all very happy to share in this news! The Forgotten Realms is alive and well!

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...
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CylverSaber
Learned Scribe

94 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  16:50:53  Show Profile  Visit CylverSaber's Homepage Send CylverSaber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As far as I can see, I'm still banned.
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Man-of-Fur
Acolyte

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  17:29:19  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Check again, and we are sorry for any strife caused by this situation.

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...
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CylverSaber
Learned Scribe

94 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  17:31:32  Show Profile  Visit CylverSaber's Homepage Send CylverSaber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I'm unbanned now. We'll move past this and focus on shared love of the Realms. Here's to more novels and more authors!
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Man-of-Fur
Acolyte

Canada
13 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2018 :  17:39:15  Show Profile Send Man-of-Fur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Huzzah!

Mike from the Forgotten Realms Archives...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31056 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2018 :  01:59:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CylverSaber

I am a member, but just got a 24 hour ban for having posted a link to information *on the publisher's own site* about the new Drizzt book being released. There's really no excuse for that kind of administrator behavior; even if the admins somehow think they are serving the author's interests (and one would have to question why a fan group feels that's their place), it is completely bizarre and irrational when the information is coming directly from the publisher. Shame on you guys.



Just got a ban, myself. Apparently, offering a negative opinion citing specific issues on a series, when an opinion was requested, is violating the rules. Not only was I given the 24 hour ban, my comments were deleted.

So I left the group. I was already annoyed, today, because someone was trying to troll me for having a dissenting opinion. Now one of the group mods does the same thing.

I've been trying to spend less time on Facebook, of late; me removing myself from that group just makes it easier.

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Caolin
Senior Scribe

680 Posts

Posted - 02 Apr 2018 :  17:49:27  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'm not going anywhere near anything related to Facebook. Not sure why they all don't come here to Candlekeep?
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

2312 Posts

Posted - 02 Apr 2018 :  17:50:05  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Just got a ban, myself. Apparently, offering a negative opinion citing specific issues on a series, when an opinion was requested, is violating the rules. Not only was I given the 24 hour ban, my comments were deleted.

So I left the group. I was already annoyed, today, because someone was trying to troll me for having a dissenting opinion. Now one of the group mods does the same thing.

I've been trying to spend less time on Facebook, of late; me removing myself from that group just makes it easier.




Okay, this pisses me off.

Woolie, I've been reading your posts online for years, and I have never seen anything that warranted that sort of action. Sure, you like some series better than others, but who doesn't? While I applaud the moderators' goal of keeping the site user-friendly for all, this isn't the way to do it.




Edited by - ElaineCunningham on 02 Apr 2018 17:52:41
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
31056 Posts

Posted - 02 Apr 2018 :  18:50:59  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The mod who did it didn't even give the courtesy of a warning.

My opinion was, admittedly, rather negative -- but it was same things I've said here, about the War of the Spider Queen books. I've issues with the shifting character personalities, Lolth's plot making her more powerful when it should have weakened her, the characters demonstrating perfectly how to be Chaotic Stupid, and I found the overall story to be rather uninteresting.

And I cited all of those things. Maybe it's just me, but I don't consider it bashing when someone can give specific complaints, as opposed to the "this thing I dislike is stupid and so is anyone that likes it" shtick seen so many times online. But that was the specific charge from the moderator.

I'm rather curious about the guy who was trying to troll me by posting insulting gifs -- I'd like to know if he was given a 24 hour ban, as well. Unfortunately, I think all of his gifs were responses to one of my deleted comments, and I removed myself from the group, so there's no going back to check.

The whole thing obviously irritated me enough to post about it and remove myself from the group, but I'm over it now -- like I said, it makes it easier to spend less time on Facebook. I've had far more irritating things happen, in my online journeys.

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CylverSaber
Learned Scribe

94 Posts

Posted - 02 Apr 2018 :  20:06:14  Show Profile  Visit CylverSaber's Homepage Send CylverSaber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm there mainly because my favorite authors (like Elaine) are there. The mods do seem to respect the opinions of the authors, but the authors probably generally aren't aware when there's a problem like this. I would think most authors would want them not to be so heavy-handed with fans,so maybe if the authors speak to the mods privately it could help. The group is a good idea, at least in theory.
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GoForTheEyes
Acolyte

1 Posts

Posted - 03 Apr 2018 :  00:14:45  Show Profile Send GoForTheEyes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Long time lurker, figured I'd finally register and chime in, since things with this Facebook group seem to be growing increasingly ridiculous. I'm a member of the FRA as well as other FR groups on Facebook. Some of the mods of the other Facebook groups are friends of mine. I've heard from them that Mike Furman, not sure if he owns the group but he's clearly the one who calls the shots, has been cracking down on them for sharing their FR groups in the FRA. They've gotten muted or banned from the FRA for doing so, and when they asked why, Mike told them that FRA doesn't allow promotions from groups "in direct competition" with the FRA. AFAIK Facebook doesn't limit how many groups a person can be in, so this seems really stupid. Maybe there's a limit but I've seen people in over a thousand groups so if that limit exists, it's gotta be pretty high. Another friend got grief from Mike for sharing an article that the FRA had copied and pasted directly from the Wiki. Mike acted like the FRA people had written it when all they did was literally copy and paste it from the Wiki and remove the citations and told him to give FRA credit for the article. Since then I've noticed that FRA spotlights have included a line claiming credit for the articles' contents.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
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Posted - 03 Apr 2018 :  00:41:09  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've heard a couple of other complaints about the group from people here, but this was my first bad experience with the group. I mainly lurked, there, because I didn't see a lot of conversations I felt like participating in.

I think that most of my contributions to the group were recommendations for Elaine's books, and those of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb.

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