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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 :  04:59:07  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's been unresolved and incessant conflict between the Seelie and Unseelie courts for many millenia. Since the earliest nascent period of the multiverse, the forces of High and Low Fey have battled.

Titania, Queen of All Faerie (even the Low) tried unsuccessfully to bridge the gap between the Seelie and Unseelie courts, but many within here own pantheon (most notably Oberon, the Lord of Beasts) worked behind the scenes to ensure that such a union never came to pass.

One area of still growing conflict between the two sides, is that of the once mortal ranger, known as Fionnghuala. Fionnghuala assisted the sylvan races in their last great battle against the incursions of the Queen of Air and Darkness, and her Unseelie Court. In gratitude for her selfless service in protecting a mortally wounded Oberon Fionn was raised from the dead after the battle and brought to the Seelie Court by the Queen Titania. Once there, she became a demigoddess swore to serve the Seelie, and her Queen as the deity of eternal communication and sorority.

However, the Unseelie, who had suffered great losses during the last great conflict are believed to have corrupted a sliver of Fionn gentle spirit - the consequences of which, have yet to reveal themselves...

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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 :  05:04:15  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shadowlord, here's some stats for the new race that I've been tinkering with. Remember that nothing is set yet, and these are just something that we can build upon later -

+2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma, -2 Constitution, -2 Strength

I've also been thinking about some of the abilities for this race, and came up with this -

All [insert race name here] are proficient with the shortbow and the short sword. Like all elves, [insert race name here] revere swordplay and most pick up archery at some point in their lives.

Let's hear what you think

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 :  16:00:56  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting... I would think that since they are quite an exotic subrace, they might have an exotic weapon proficiency... Whats your opinion?

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 :  23:22:30  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, and it's also something that I started working on, after I posted that last little snippet.

I should have something soon...

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cpthero2
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Posted - 28 Sep 2018 :  18:35:31  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Master Shadowlord,

What was your source for this? I would just like to take a look out of curiosity.

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

I've heard rumors of certain elves called "Blackrose Elves" that were the inhabitants of another elven world such as Faerie. However, I have not managed to find any official information on them. All I have so far is "The origins of the Blackrose Elves are mostly unknown. They were first sighted some 1,000 years ago - only later to disappear and were believed to be extinct, though there have been recent reports of activity and sightings. However, most who meet them never live to tell anyone. They are evil and have sadistic traits that almost rival those of the Drow." Even if they actually don't exist in Realmslore, it might be fun to make them into a new player race...


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cpthero2
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Posted - 12 Feb 2020 :  04:44:26  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good evening all!

I was hoping with a bump, someone may know what source Master Shadowlord was referring too regarding the "Blackrose Elves"?

Best regards,



quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2

Master Shadowlord,

What was your source for this? I would just like to take a look out of curiosity.

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

I've heard rumors of certain elves called "Blackrose Elves" that were the inhabitants of another elven world such as Faerie. However, I have not managed to find any official information on them. All I have so far is "The origins of the Blackrose Elves are mostly unknown. They were first sighted some 1,000 years ago - only later to disappear and were believed to be extinct, though there have been recent reports of activity and sightings. However, most who meet them never live to tell anyone. They are evil and have sadistic traits that almost rival those of the Drow." Even if they actually don't exist in Realmslore, it might be fun to make them into a new player race...




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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Feb 2020 :  04:51:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2

Good evening all!

I was hoping with a bump, someone may know what source Master Shadowlord was referring too regarding the "Blackrose Elves"?



Well, there's this 2004 quote from him, earlier in this discussion...

quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Ah Sage, after a bit of delving I discovered that they are a created race, and not truly "canon," though it is as I expected. Hmmm, might be a nice idea to create the race though... At least this elven subrace doesn't have lightbulbs hanging off their foreheads...


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Brimstone
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Of course Sage Time(tm) strikes again!!!

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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
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cpthero2
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Posted - 15 Feb 2020 :  03:21:48  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Master Rupert,

Thank you for that! Right under my nose, and I did not even see it. haha

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2

Good evening all!

I was hoping with a bump, someone may know what source Master Shadowlord was referring too regarding the "Blackrose Elves"?



Well, there's this 2004 quote from him, earlier in this discussion...

quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Ah Sage, after a bit of delving I discovered that they are a created race, and not truly "canon," though it is as I expected. Hmmm, might be a nice idea to create the race though... At least this elven subrace doesn't have lightbulbs hanging off their foreheads...




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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 23 Feb 2020 :  01:12:26  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd say go with Sage's first impulse. Sounds a lot the the Sith from Ravenloft to me.

In fact, this might be perfect... a faction of Sith that managed to escape the Demiplane of Dread during the Reformation, but are forever tainted by the Demiplane and the Shadow Rift.

(For those not up on Ravenloft Lore, the Reformation was a period of upheaval in Ravenloft where the Dark Powers shook things up a bit).

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cpthero2
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Posted - 23 Feb 2020 :  17:01:49  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great Reader Masked Mage,

That's awesome. I did not know that, as I know very little about Ravenloft. I ran the module back in the day as a kid, and that was pretty much it.

That would be amazing to see Sith, haha.

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Mage

I'd say go with Sage's first impulse. Sounds a lot the the Sith from Ravenloft to me.

In fact, this might be perfect... a faction of Sith that managed to escape the Demiplane of Dread during the Reformation, but are forever tainted by the Demiplane and the Shadow Rift.

(For those not up on Ravenloft Lore, the Reformation was a period of upheaval in Ravenloft where the Dark Powers shook things up a bit).




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