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Originally posted by Markustay

Wavecrest is probably your best bet, of the three, because it doesn't have much lore attached (unlike the other two). In fact, you could easilly weave your lore into the scant existing lore (the druids of Ilghôn forbid people from going to Wavecrest).

The other group of saurials - called lacerials - are in the jungles of Malatra (Kara-Tur), not Chult (although I could easily see a Chultan group as well).

I had theorized that the saurials are actually the original 'sauroid' creator race, and at one point it had varied species. The sarrukh eventually rose to prominence and either killed-off or drove the rest into exile (hence, that odd group in Malatra). Thus, the 'Saurial Homeworld' was actually Abeir all along. Thats all homebrew, though.

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Two other good choices in the Sea of Fallen Stars would be either The Lone Rock in the mouth of the Dragonreach, or the Wayrock, south of Lyrabar (Impiltur) about a 100 miles or so. The Lone rock is tiny, but should be able to fit a single settlement. The way Rock is a full island, and could support a much larger group (along with food animals). Neither has been 'heard from' since 2e, so your good.

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Originally posted by sleyvas

I'm also creating a race I'm calling Noceri, or rhinocerous men/rhinotaurs that I'm sticking out in the Savannah area.

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Originally posted by sleyvas

I'm also creating a race I'm calling Noceri, or rhinocerous men/rhinotaurs that I'm sticking out in the Savannah area.

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Hi again, fellow scribes. Ed felt he’d been neglecting Wooly Rupert, and so has tackled Wooly’s query: “A discussion in another thread has mentioned something from one of the Elminster's Ecologies books: the existence of dinosaurs in the Stonelands. To some of us, this seems to be an odd place to drop dinosaurs... And, now that I think about it, I'm not recalling any other references to dinosaurs being there. So, in your Realms, are there dinosaurs in the Stonelands? And either way, is there anything you could add about their official presence there?”
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The Sage is quite right to remind us of my Candle04Page38 reply: there once were many dinosaurs in the Realms, but the dragons flourished by dining on almost all of them, leaving only handfuls behind (usually in jungles or other “good cover from flying wyrms” terrain).
The Stonelands are just such terrain, with their knife-edged ridges, deep ravines, caverns and overhangs, and exposed horns and faces of stone. So, yes, there are a few dinosaurs lurking deep in the Stonelands. Almost all are ostrich-sized or smaller velociraptors (bird-like, darting and hopping predators, of the sort featured so prominently in JURASSIC PARK: see fleshraker and swindlesplitter under “Dinosaur” in the MM3), though there are a few deinonychus (MM). They hibernate in deep, “warmrock” rifts (near earth nodes and volcanic flows) and hunt in cover, never leaving the Stonelands or racing along heights of land (for fear of being devoured by dragons; the Zhent foulwings, dark horrors, and other aerial steeds remind the dim-witted dinosaurs of the “death from above” that they now instinctively fear).



So saith Ed, who will recall Torm trying to interest Jhessail in a skewer of dinosaur steaks that she said VERY rude things about. Even Rathan, with the aid of much wine, downed them only with difficulty, finding them “tough, and with a curious dead-mushrooms taste.”
love to all,
THO

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It's canon that there are dinosaurs in the Stonelands.

Here's a quote from 2006, I believe.

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Originally posted by Markustay

Great Idea - if you can find a copy of the 4e Cormyr map, the Orlath Woods would be a perfect place (just north of the Stonelands, on the desert's edge - top center of map).

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Originally posted by shades of eternity

yup

and only a stone's throw away from the lost vale so it works perfectly. :)

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Originally posted by sleyvas

I'm also creating a race I'm calling Noceri, or rhinocerous men/rhinotaurs that I'm sticking out in the Savannah area.

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There was a "rhinaur" named M'Saba in the book The Star of Cursrah, the only time I've ever seen mention of such a creature. This book was set about 7,500 years in the past, so they must've gone extinct a long time ago, though I like the idea of a small group of them surviving in your Lost World area.

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Originally posted by Fellfire

Or this very cool sculpture. Needs a bigger horn, methinks.

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Originally posted by Green Giant

Perhaps the rhek from Book of Exalted Deeds.

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Originally posted by sleyvas

Oh, and Markustay, yes, the minotaur that is more tauric was called a "manotaur".... and I actually have another area I'm working that has minotaurs, ibixians (goat folk), and yak folk... was considering putting manotaurs, and terrestrial Bariaur into the mix, but thought I might be overloading it. Their area is hills and mountains with light woods. This culture is one with a heavy "cult/ritual" influence. and possibly ties to demons of similar body builds (armanites, bulezau, Goristro, and demon lords like Baphomet and Orcus)

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Originally posted by Markustay

I see you've met my ex. {we really do need a 'rimshot' smiley}

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Originally posted by sleyvas

Oh, and Markustay, yes, the minotaur that is more tauric was called a "manotaur".... and I actually have another area I'm working that has minotaurs, ibixians (goat folk), and yak folk... was considering putting manotaurs, and terrestrial Bariaur into the mix, but thought I might be overloading it. Their area is hills and mountains with light woods. This culture is one with a heavy "cult/ritual" influence. and possibly ties to demons of similar body builds (armanites, bulezau, Goristro, and demon lords like Baphomet and Orcus)

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I have something like that going on around the Yehimals. Yakfolk on one side (Zakhara), minotaurs on the Faerûn (Utter East to Hordelands) side, and Goatfolk (ibixians, or Bargda in Mystara) in Kara-Tur. There is mention of a 'truly ancient' (pre-Imaskari) temple to 'Beast gods' in the Hordelands material near that area, and with the Yakfolk already in-place, I made the leap that there was some sort of beast-thang going on in the Yehimals in the DISTANT past (perhaps even pre-dragon era). Also add in the Gnolls that lived in the vicinity of Imaskar (which were driven-out by the Imaskari, IIRC).

That leap was the entire basis for me placing Rakshasa in primordial Zakhara. Then they brought in the Dgen (genies) as servants, who later revolted (and drove their Rakshasa masters undeground, in the Yehimals), and then the Dgen enslaved the indigenous halflings (and later humans), who were in-turn overthrown by their own servants. I have it where there have been at least a dozen 'eras' in Zakhara, and the history we have for it (in the Al-Qadim books) is only for this latest era (which fixes a small problem with a vingette in the GotR).

And later, dwarves when were driven out of nearby Ladinion - dug down to the Rakshasa caverns, which was why there was a mass exodus of them from the Yehimals some 10K+ years ago. It was a way of me linking together lots of separated, unrelated bit of lore.

That, and I really like Rakshasa. They also helps explain the constant 'cat theme' recurring in The Realms, and all the catfolk references in the East.

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