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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  16:16:12  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
One of the greatest sorrows than can befall any parent is outliving one's children. Amlauril of Evermeet lived long past the years allotted to most elves, and she saw most of her children and grandchildren pass on to Arvandor.

Most, but not all.

The secret history of Evermeet's royal Moonflower family, a short lore book that includes possible adventure hooks, strikes me as a niche product that would be of interest to a very small group of readers/gamers. But it might be fun.

Just brainstorming here.

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Assuming this was a DM's Guild product, I would not be able to buy and download it quickly enough.

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Adhriva
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A dramatis personę of npcs might be the best way to pull this off...a kind of monater manual booklet but of allies. It would be easy to insert lore. You could even dress it up as something the pcs might get from an information broker or might be given as part of an assignment... Without the context of balancing, stats are much easier to figure out and there is the possibility of relative 'stats' (i.e. spellcast amplitude = 4.5 wands or 'very high'. Let the GM figure out what stats they need for their pc levels.)

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  19:29:07  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adhriva

A dramatis personę of npcs might be the best way to pull this off...a kind of monater manual booklet but of allies. It would be easy to insert lore. You could even dress it up as something the pcs might get from an information broker or might be given as part of an assignment... Without the context of balancing, stats are much easier to figure out and there is the possibility of relative 'stats' (i.e. spellcast amplitude = 4.5 wands or 'very high'. Let the GM figure out what stats they need for their pc levels.)



Good suggestions. Thanks! :)
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Delwa
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Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  21:10:21  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll second what Wooly said. And if we're going with NPC's, if I can add to what's already been suggested, you could just give the Background hooks (assuming 5e rules here) such as a name, alignment, and a little exposition on their Traits, Flaws, and Bonds would be a great way to insert lore on individual characters involved, and leave it flexible to DM's to use.

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The Masked Mage
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Do you have a copy of the "The Seven Sisters" supplement Elaine? I would vote for something along those lines... With little brief scenes of the characters and then discussions of their life with stats there, but really kind of an afterthought.

I'd also say it would be awesome if ALL the children (surviving and deceased) were included, and both parents (and the moonblade :P ) as well. I'd bet most people would buy it just for info on the Kingsword.

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 06 Jul 2016 :  22:35:31  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Mage

Do you have a copy of the "The Seven Sisters" supplement Elaine? I would vote for something along those lines... With little brief scenes of the characters and then discussions of their life with stats there, but really kind of an afterthought.

I'd also say it would be awesome if ALL the children (surviving and deceased) were included, and both parents (and the moonblade :P ) as well. I'd bet most people would buy it just for info on the Kingsword.





No, I don't have this particular supplement, but the format sounds about right.

Yes, all the royal children would be included. Making a note about the Kingsword.

Of all the projects I've thought about for DM Guild, this one seems the most manageable and realistic. Might be a good way to test the waters.

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This could be a really fun idea Elaine, and potentially very useful too, as I understand it the throne of Evermeet right now is Vacent (Amlauril has dissappered or something?) and is ruled by a council of regents until a new heir to the throne can be found. this could be a really good supplement for anyone who is thinking about running a campaign based around "finding the lost heir of Evermeet"
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BenN
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  00:41:30  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes please!
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  02:29:15  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BrianDavion

This could be a really fun idea Elaine, and potentially very useful too, as I understand it the throne of Evermeet right now is Vacent (Amlauril has dissappered or something?) and is ruled by a council of regents until a new heir to the throne can be found. this could be a really good supplement for anyone who is thinking about running a campaign based around "finding the lost heir of Evermeet"



They're not really "lost." There are elves who knew the whereabouts of the royal Moonflowers, many of whom traveled and live abroad incognito, either as agents of the crown or to learn more about other elven lands and cultures. But I could definitely see a campaign in which a party of adventurers hears a rumor of an assassination attempt on an elven prince, so they'd have to figure out who and where he is in order to foil the attempt. Or maybe a curious bard tracks down a princess and inadvertently leads enemies to the village in which she's staying. Mayhem ensues, and the party needs to fight to save the village (and then possibly fight their way past a bunch of pissed-off elves...)

Many possibilities.
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Adhriva
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What's the production time you're thinking of aiming for with this?

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  02:57:47  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adhriva

What's the production time you're thinking of aiming for with this?



I haven't gotten that far yet. :) The idea just occurred to me today. I'll need to reread EVERMEET, decide on scope and format, and write the outline before I have an idea of timeframe.

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Adhriva
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The offer for art is still there

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Edited by - Adhriva on 07 Jul 2016 10:45:38
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  13:59:22  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adhriva

The offer for art is still there



Thanks!

Art is another thing I haven't figured out yet.
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  14:06:04  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just ordered an electronic copy of the SEVEN SISTERS supplement. There's a lot of crunchy bits in it, mostly new spells and magic items. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see included?

There will be some material on moonblades, and reference to the Tree of Souls. Some monsters, in particular the elf-eater from the Moonshae Islands. Clerical magic, including the ability to change elven sub-race. (The most practical application of this would involve sea elves.)
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Cards77
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Posted - 07 Jul 2016 :  14:46:23  Show Profile Send Cards77 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elaine, I would be very interested in this supplement. If you want a slightly different perspective many of us are still playing 3.5e/Pathfinder so the more rules agnostic the product is the more likely us non 5E folks will be to pick it up.

One thing I've seen done in other products that I thought was really great was just stat blocks for each NPC, one for 5e and one for 3/3.5/Pathfinder. However i realize that may be more work than desired.

In any event, heavy on the lore and background even for the monsters, and light on the stats for ease of use across editions.
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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 08 Jul 2016 :  01:11:28  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Just ordered an electronic copy of the SEVEN SISTERS supplement. There's a lot of crunchy bits in it, mostly new spells and magic items. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see included?

There will be some material on moonblades, and reference to the Tree of Souls. Some monsters, in particular the elf-eater from the Moonshae Islands. Clerical magic, including the ability to change elven sub-race. (The most practical application of this would involve sea elves.)



The reason I mentioned the Seven Sister book was the individual entries with the short vignettes and "what folk think of" "what angers" "what pleases" and "daily doings" sections which I think painted better pictures of NPCs than any other sourcebook. These made up pages 13 through 61. The stats blocks were limited, but gave really all that was needed. I figure this would completely fill your book with the greater number of characters intended.

I'd say as far as magic and things other than the characters, game based descriptions of any of the elven magics in your books would be welcome... slipshields, dreamshperes, etc., maybe even a section on elfsong (which to my mind seemed significantly different from the later descriptions of dancing spellsingers which wasn't even an elven magic). Other than that, just unique magics you want to create.
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sleyvas
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Neat idea, and I'd buy it.

Just to throw out some ideas to see if they help you:

Lost Portals to Evermeet.... maybe some of these people protect such.... and maybe there are certain items in the world that are keys to such that need to be recovered?

When Evermeet was transferred to the Feywild, did any of these royals marry into Feywild elven royal families in order to gain alliances?

Are their any ties to Rhymanthiin? Siledyuir? The Crintri recently exiled from Dambrath?

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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 08 Jul 2016 :  02:31:27  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Neat idea, and I'd buy it.

Just to throw out some ideas to see if they help you:

Lost Portals to Evermeet.... maybe some of these people protect such.... and maybe there are certain items in the world that are keys to such that need to be recovered?

When Evermeet was transferred to the Feywild, did any of these royals marry into Feywild elven royal families in order to gain alliances?

Are their any ties to Rhymanthiin? Siledyuir? The Crintri recently exiled from Dambrath?



Good questions all. Thanks!
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 08 Jul 2016 :  02:32:44  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage Send ElaineCunningham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have been out of the Realms for so long that the prospect of catching up is rather daunting. I would be grateful for recommendations on source books that deal with Evermeet and the elves from 4th edition on. That's pretty much when I checked out.
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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 08 Jul 2016 :  04:28:53  Show Profile  Send The Masked Mage an AOL message  Click to see The Masked Mage's MSN Messenger address Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Only ones I know of are 3rd Ed. 4th was rather sparse.
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Cards77
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I would love to hear more about spellarchers and spellsingers. They don't seem to be covered much anywhere. Also anything related to the old elfgates that were closed or decommissioned anytime after the Retreat. Where they go, how they operate, etc.
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BrianDavion
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I'm getting into the realms again after an absence during 4th edition myself so I can't really provide much help. but some research from the wiki is worth noting...

"In 1385 DR, when the Spellplague struck and ravaged across Faerūn, contact was lost with Evermeet. All of the permanent portals ceased functioning and efforts by the other fey kingdoms on Faerūn to reestablish contact have failed, and it is largely thought that Evermeet was destroyed. What is little known is that Evermeet was in fact transported into the Feywild and persists there. Only an echo of the physical island, without any structures or inhabitants, now remains on Toril."

"As of 1479 DR, after the tumultuous events of the Spellplague, Queen Amlaruil is gone and a Royal Council governs, at least until a suitable heir can be found. The Royal Council consists of Lady Selsharra Durothil, Ammisyll Veldann, the Lord Marshal Keryth Blackhelm, the Grand Mage Breithel Olithir, among others. Zaltarish, previously the queen's personal scribe, has passed on"

the island has recently returned with the events of the second sundering.
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Evermeet ships have also been seen on the sword coast, and according to the Sword Coast Adventurers Guide, Evermeet is more accessible again.

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