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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 29 Jan 2016 :  20:38:40  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just thought I'd post up some of the work of scribes of the keep to help people support their efforts.

The first ones I've noticed of course are those by our own resident realms expert George Krashos (although many probably have them already).

If you find anything else then might as well post it here.

Saints of Impiltur by George Krashos

High History of Impiltur by George Krashos

Swords of Impiltur - Soargar's Legacy by George Krashos

Talona's Touch: Poisons of the Forgotten Realms by George Krashos

Swords of Impiltur: Imbrar's Inheritance by George Krashos

TWC1 - The Maztica Campaign Guide by Theodore Hild

TWN1 - Azure Skies by Theodore Hild

TWM1 - Diamond Eyes - A True World Tale of Betrayal by Theodore Hild






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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 30 Jan 2016 :  02:22:50  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Given these have been showcased here for free, I thought it would be appropriate for them to get a bigger audience.

Hopefully there'll be more stuff in time to come.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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JohnLynch
Learned Scribe

Australia
182 Posts

Posted - 30 Jan 2016 :  05:44:38  Show Profile Send JohnLynch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great stuff on the Saints George! I'm a bit mystified as to why it isn't at a minimum a "Pay What You Want" because this is good stuff that I'm sure people would happily throw a couple of dollars towards.

For the Patron Saint feat I would argue that the pre-requisite should be "has the domain class feature" just to help clear it up. Otherwise can I cast domain spells without having a domain? Does having ritual caster (cleric) count as casting cleric spells and if so by what mechanic do I cast cleric spells if I'm a fighter? Requiring a domain helps clear that up.

The domains are really good as well. They're definitely legal in my games going forward :) Are there any other gods who would have the discipline domain (helm? Tempus?) or the suffering domain (one of the drow gods?).

I absolutely love the idea of saints granting different domains as well. This is a very slick way of reintroducing the multiple domains we had in 3.5e without needing to assign 4 domains to every single deity. Have saints been mentioned and/or detailed in any prior products? Or is this the first time they've been explored? I don't recall them in Faiths and Avatars, although there has been much said on the gods beyond what's in that book ;)

Edited by - JohnLynch on 30 Jan 2016 06:12:03
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George Krashos
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Posted - 30 Jan 2016 :  09:11:42  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's a very good point John. I didn't consider the magic initiate or ritual caster feats when I wrote the article. The DMs Guild piece had been amended accordingly.

As I noted in the article, some of the new domains have an instant 'fit' for other deities - vengeance for Hoar, suffering for Loviatar etc. I'm sure discipline would work fine for Helm. It's up to individual DMs as to what they think fits a particular deity.

Saints have been a part of D&D in terms of being "mentioned" since 1E. I vividly remember the article on saints back in Dragon #79 (which was quasi-inspiration for the piece) and thinking how saints could be applied to faiths in the Realms. Ed provided most of the general saint lore showcased in the article and saints of Ilmater are the only saints referenced in the lore to date - notably by Steven Schend in Empires of the Shining Sea, which Ed tells me drew from earlier discussions between them on this topic many moons ago.

Otherwise, in terms of details, this probably represents the most detailed look at saints in the Realms to date. Thanks for taking the time.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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CorellonsDevout
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USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2016 :  21:40:12  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose actually checking out the site would clarify some things for me and answer my questions, but I thought I could post them here, as well, since some fellow scribes have already uploaded material and have a better understanding of how it works.

I am a writer, so I could write a short story (heck, I'd write a novel if WotC contacted me), but I have never written an adventure before, I don't know the first thing about assigning stats, and if I came up with lore ideas, it would either be in a short story format, or a description of what my idea for the lore is (and I don't think people would want to pay for that).

Do I have any options?

Sweet water and light laughter
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2016 :  22:18:32  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm working on writing up my Westgate campaign for the guild, and I'm going to be involved in TEGG's guild work as well. Stay tuned!

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

Also check out my Realms work, most recently Shadowbane: Eye of Justice, out now on e-readers everywhere! (Kindle, Nook)
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Irennan
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Italy
2555 Posts

Posted - 04 Feb 2016 :  01:22:02  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

I'm working on writing up my Westgate campaign for the guild, and I'm going to be involved in TEGG's guild work as well. Stay tuned!

Cheers



Cool news!

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/
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Seethyr
Learned Scribe

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  02:01:37  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have written many netbooks for 3.5 in the past and have had them up here for years now. I took down the Maztica Campaign Guide (my first 5e product) because I put it up on DMSGuild and I think it's against the rules to have it posted somewhere else (like Candlekeep), even though its a free product.

I am in the process of finishing a novella (honestly done within the next 2-3 days, as long as the Superbowl doesn't get me too crazy). I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?

Maztica Alive Netbooks for 5e:
TWC1 The Maztica Campaign Guide
TWC2 Lopango - Land of the Sacred Sun
TWC3 Claw and Sting - The Scorpionfolk of the True World Underdark
TWC4 Esmeralda - Island of Revolution and Supernatural Threats
TWN1 Azure Skies
TWM1 Diamond Eyes - A True World Tale of Betrayal
TWM2 Feathers and Fangs - A Book of Spells for the True World
TWM3 The Grand History of the True World
TWM4 The Penguinfolk
TWA1 The Ruins
TWA2 The Curse of Zarzumotl
TWA3 Blood Offering
All Books Linked Here

Maztica Alive! Yahoo Group Join Us

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CorellonsDevout
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  02:21:30  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's all right for wanting to charge for something you'very worked hard at. If you're posting a novella on the Guild, that means we're allowed to post stories?

Sweet water and light laughter
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Irennan
Great Reader

Italy
2555 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  02:23:09  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, you're putting effort and time into your work. It's perfectly reasonable to ask for some support.

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/
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Irennan
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Italy
2555 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  02:25:20  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
If you're posting a novella on the Guild, that means we're allowed to post stories?



Mearls has asked to hold off with novellas, but trying doesn't hurt. The worst that could happen is that your product could be taken down.

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/
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Seethyr
Learned Scribe

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  03:05:51  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
If you're posting a novella on the Guild, that means we're allowed to post stories?



Mearls has asked to hold off with novellas, but trying doesn't hurt. The worst that could happen is that your product could be taken down.



Oh boy . I have to admit I'd be crushed. I really hope they don't...

My old boss used to say, "It's better to ask forgiveness than it is permission." But that's not the route I want to take here. The story was meant to work in tandem with my campaign guide so perhaps I'll just combine them if it becomes a problem.

Thank you all for the advice

Maztica Alive Netbooks for 5e:
TWC1 The Maztica Campaign Guide
TWC2 Lopango - Land of the Sacred Sun
TWC3 Claw and Sting - The Scorpionfolk of the True World Underdark
TWC4 Esmeralda - Island of Revolution and Supernatural Threats
TWN1 Azure Skies
TWM1 Diamond Eyes - A True World Tale of Betrayal
TWM2 Feathers and Fangs - A Book of Spells for the True World
TWM3 The Grand History of the True World
TWM4 The Penguinfolk
TWA1 The Ruins
TWA2 The Curse of Zarzumotl
TWA3 Blood Offering
All Books Linked Here

Maztica Alive! Yahoo Group Join Us

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Irennan
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  03:13:54  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I can see that. I'd feel crushed too.

To be safe, you can try to ask Mearls here: https://twitter.com/mikemearls

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  03:21:22  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stories or lore ideas would be all I would be able to provide. Hmm...

Sweet water and light laughter
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
4709 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  04:58:31  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I have written many netbooks for 3.5 in the past and have had them up here for years now. I took down the Maztica Campaign Guide (my first 5e product) because I put it up on DMSGuild and I think it's against the rules to have it posted somewhere else (like Candlekeep), even though its a free product.

I am in the process of finishing a novella (honestly done within the next 2-3 days, as long as the Superbowl doesn't get me too crazy). I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?



I had the same dilemma with the stuff I have put up at the DMs Guild. The Impiltur history and saints articles were already available for free so I couldn't in good conscience ask for money. On my poisons piece, I did some good work, lots of 5E retconning, coming up with new and different stuff and thought it was worth the $2 price tag I put on it. So far, 22 people agree!!

Although it is very interesting to note "sales" on the DMs Guild. I queried them whether it was possible to track downloads of free articles and was told that at this current point in time, it wasn't. They did tell me however that my Impiltur timeline had been downloaded 163 times at that stage. If I had slapped a $2-3 price tag on it, I wonder how many downloads it would have garnered ...?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Seethyr
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  05:07:05  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I have written many netbooks for 3.5 in the past and have had them up here for years now. I took down the Maztica Campaign Guide (my first 5e product) because I put it up on DMSGuild and I think it's against the rules to have it posted somewhere else (like Candlekeep), even though its a free product.

I am in the process of finishing a novella (honestly done within the next 2-3 days, as long as the Superbowl doesn't get me too crazy). I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?



I had the same dilemma with the stuff I have put up at the DMs Guild. The Impiltur history and saints articles were already available for free so I couldn't in good conscience ask for money. On my poisons piece, I did some good work, lots of 5E retconning, coming up with new and different stuff and thought it was worth the $2 price tag I put on it. So far, 22 people agree!!

Although it is very interesting to note "sales" on the DMs Guild. I queried them whether it was possible to track downloads of free articles and was told that at this current point in time, it wasn't. They did tell me however that my Impiltur timeline had been downloaded 163 times at that stage. If I had slapped a $2-3 price tag on it, I wonder how many downloads it would have garnered ...?

-- George Krashos



It makes me laugh that you brought this up, because download tracking is one of the main reasons I want to charge. Perhaps that is their reasoning behind not displaying that information...after all, they make one buck for every one of your downloads as well.

Maztica Alive Netbooks for 5e:
TWC1 The Maztica Campaign Guide
TWC2 Lopango - Land of the Sacred Sun
TWC3 Claw and Sting - The Scorpionfolk of the True World Underdark
TWC4 Esmeralda - Island of Revolution and Supernatural Threats
TWN1 Azure Skies
TWM1 Diamond Eyes - A True World Tale of Betrayal
TWM2 Feathers and Fangs - A Book of Spells for the True World
TWM3 The Grand History of the True World
TWM4 The Penguinfolk
TWA1 The Ruins
TWA2 The Curse of Zarzumotl
TWA3 Blood Offering
All Books Linked Here

Maztica Alive! Yahoo Group Join Us

Edited by - Seethyr on 05 Feb 2016 05:08:53
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JohnLynch
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Australia
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  12:27:28  Show Profile Send JohnLynch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?
IMO: no. Ed posts stuff here for free fairly regularly. So do plenty of other authors including Eric L Boyd and Elaine Cunningham. And yet they all still do paid work that pretty much targets includes the candlekeep audience as their target audience. When Ed publishes a book I'm sure at least some of his players go out and get one. Much the same situation here :)
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Seethyr
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  17:28:36  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you.

It is done. I tried to alleviate the whole "novel" problem by connecting it to the crunch in the campaign guide. Lets see if that holds water.

TWN-1 Azure Skies

Maztica Alive Netbooks for 5e:
TWC1 The Maztica Campaign Guide
TWC2 Lopango - Land of the Sacred Sun
TWC3 Claw and Sting - The Scorpionfolk of the True World Underdark
TWC4 Esmeralda - Island of Revolution and Supernatural Threats
TWN1 Azure Skies
TWM1 Diamond Eyes - A True World Tale of Betrayal
TWM2 Feathers and Fangs - A Book of Spells for the True World
TWM3 The Grand History of the True World
TWM4 The Penguinfolk
TWA1 The Ruins
TWA2 The Curse of Zarzumotl
TWA3 Blood Offering
All Books Linked Here

Maztica Alive! Yahoo Group Join Us
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dazzlerdal
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Posted - 14 Feb 2016 :  18:57:59  Show Profile Send dazzlerdal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Added a few more to the first post. If anyone releases any others let me know.

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TBeholder
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Posted - 02 Mar 2016 :  16:20:18  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?

Want to charge - charge, don't want to charge - don't charge, it's your call...
If you want some sort of a compromise, that's what Pay-What-You-Want does. Some will pay. Some won't pay, but will recommend to others, so there are more of both. Which is pretty much how it ends up anyway, but without bothering to juggle promotion part and income part.

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Mournblade
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Posted - 05 Mar 2016 :  17:09:12  Show Profile  Visit Mournblade's Homepage  Send Mournblade an AOL message  Click to see Mournblade's MSN Messenger address  Send Mournblade a Yahoo! Message Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Was the Eilistrae release from a scribe here. It was excellent work.

A wizard is Never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he Early. A wizard arrives precisely when he means to...
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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Mar 2016 :  03:01:21  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

It's all right for wanting to charge for something you'very worked hard at. If you're posting a novella on the Guild, that means we're allowed to post stories?



Morally maybe... legally, that could be problems.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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sleyvas
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Posted - 06 Mar 2016 :  03:18:06  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

I would like to put it up on DMSGuild for a few dollars, but I feel weird even talking about it here because I am charging. I feel like I'm running around asking friends for money and it doesn't feel quite right - should I feel that way?

Want to charge - charge, don't want to charge - don't charge, it's your call...
If you want some sort of a compromise, that's what Pay-What-You-Want does. Some will pay. Some won't pay, but will recommend to others, so there are more of both. Which is pretty much how it ends up anyway, but without bothering to juggle promotion part and income part.



Does the pay what you want let you know how many downloads have happened? I ask because what I want to put out there is a currently an 86 page PDF, but I figure I have 2 more pages just listing spells for class lists, 1 more page worth of converted spells, a reference page to credit the couple sources that I'm including links to, 4 pages of rituals, 4 more pages of feats, and 4 pages of monsters.... so probably at the end bordering right around 100 pages. However, I'm not real interested in the money (though I'd appreciate some, as it has been an effort... and I've spent about $30 looking at other people's works... only a few have been worth the time)... I am interested in seeing how many people download it and seeing feedback.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Bulak
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
Does the pay what you want let you know how many downloads have happened?

Yes it does. The sales report allows you to include free downloads. So you can check how many people paid, but also how many paid + how many didn't.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 07 Mar 2016 :  00:23:22  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bulak

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas
Does the pay what you want let you know how many downloads have happened?

Yes it does. The sales report allows you to include free downloads. So you can check how many people paid, but also how many paid + how many didn't.



Yes, the stats on sales and how many people have "donated" on a pay what you want basis are easily accessible.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by Mournblade

Was the Eilistrae release from a scribe here. It was excellent work.



Yes it was posted by Irennan whom indeed is a scribe here. I also thought it was very good work.

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