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Markustay
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  16:49:44  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What 'Overview Map' are you guys talking about?

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Delwa
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  16:52:03  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you have Dragon+ for Android or iPad, it's a preview image in the article about the Sword Coast Adventurer's guide. I'll see if I can find a link later.

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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  17:47:25  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delwa

I'm actually kinda happy with the overview map. As the article points out, it's crafted from a more "in world" pov, meaning not every location is precisely known. Leaves room for a DM to move towns a bit, or erase them with ease.
The half elf, I'm not sure on, but I definitely am hoping for a more 3.5 type of Tiefling as opposed to the 4e flavor in the phb.
Overall, the article got me a lot more excited for the book.

Thank you guys for posting this information. I'll go ahead and reinstall the app on my tablet and see what's mentioned.

I am rather excited to see this book come out.

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dragonfriend
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  18:29:49  Show Profile  Visit dragonfriend's Homepage Send dragonfriend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First time after tue last 3.5 book that I am really interested in the new realms. I want to see the book as an alternate version, a reboot. I hope
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Delwa
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  20:24:06  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The book will not be a reboot. WotC has been adamant about that since the advent of 5e. It is a return to the way things were. The Spellplague happened, but things are getting back to the way things were in the good old days, at least according to their sales pitch.
While they can't please everyone, I feel they're doing a good job of giving us the best of both worlds; the old school Realms and the new fans that enjoyed the 4e Realms.

Oh, and Markustay, I can't get the image to share directly, but I took a screenshot of the map in question. If you hit my name in my signature, it'll take you to my Google Plus profile, and the screenshot is in the most recent public post.


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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:19:48  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The map can also be found here: http://community.wizards.com/sites/mtgcommunity/files/5E%20Map_1.pdf (courtesy of mykesfree, on the WotC forums).

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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:21:26  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

The map can also be found here: http://community.wizards.com/sites/mtgcommunity/files/5E%20Map_1.pdf (courtesy of mykesfree, on the WotC forums).



Thanks! I need to learn how to figure that out.

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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:23:07  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that it is rather weird that the map is completely blank. I mean, even adventurer-maps should have cities on them...

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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:49:38  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

I think that it is rather weird that the map is completely blank. I mean, even adventurer-maps should have cities on them...


I can see that. I'm just seeing it as an opportunity to fill it in as I build my own Faerūn. I'm guessing the context of the map within the book might explain that more. I mean, a map of the whole continent isn't very useful to an adventurer, a map of a smaller area or region is. A map of all Faerūn is more useful to get an idea of where larger things are, like mtn ranges and lakes.

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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  02:06:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also countries and notorious cities and locations. But yes, the context will probably explain the lack of certain info.

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Rymac
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  03:37:10  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The map is reminiscent of the 1e/2e Realms. I like it! You really get a sense of how far north The North is again; not to mention the length and breadth of the Faerun.
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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  05:13:41  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rymac

The map is reminiscent of the 1e/2e Realms. I like it! You really get a sense of how far north The North is again; not to mention the length and breadth of the Faerun.


I was wondering about that. The Sword Coast didn't look tilted like it did in 3e. I wasn't sure if I was seeing things or not.

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Markustay
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  07:08:18  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its definitely the 1e/2e layout.

Thanks for the link

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George Krashos
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  13:12:52  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

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Rymac
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  18:39:33  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

-- George Krashos



Yea, it's pretty bare at this point. It's an overall map showing the regions. More detail will come later, and if it doesn't, those of us Realms veterans have two-to-three decades of material to fill out the map.
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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  18:54:55  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it were the only map in the book, yeah. But according to the interview, it is only supposed to be an overview map. There's also going to be maps of Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter, Luskan, and more detailed maps of specific regions when needed.
Even the 3e FRCS has an overview map, if I recall. It also had a detailed map of the continent, granted, but those are already available via Google.
I'm just really liking it as a work of art. That, and the return to the 1e/2e scale is interesting.

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Markustay
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  19:35:41  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 'regional approach' suggests how they plan to proceed with the products themselves.

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

-- George Krashos

'Vague' "is the new Black".

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Edited by - Markustay on 15 Aug 2015 19:36:54
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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  19:39:42  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

The 'regional approach' suggests how they plan to proceed with the products themselves.

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

-- George Krashos

'Vague' "is the new Black".



Touche! As long as "overhyped" doesn't become as in vogue as Vague, I think we'll be ok.

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Gyor
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  22:16:04  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think they're done designing the realms as a whole, so it had to be vague.

But it tells us more then it seems apparent at first.

1. The Old Empires are back.
2. Its clearly influenced heavy by 1e/2e.
3. The Calimshan Desert looks much smaller to me then in 4e which tells me it shrunk, which hints that Suldorph (probably misspelled that) is a living city again.

I'll have to examine the map more.


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dragonfriend
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  23:41:25  Show Profile  Visit dragonfriend's Homepage Send dragonfriend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Clearly they do not know what To do with chult, halruaa and the land of golden dwarves after 4e damage
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eeorey
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  23:53:25  Show Profile Send eeorey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

I don't think they're done designing the realms as a whole, so it had to be vague.

But it tells us more then it seems apparent at first.

1. The Old Empires are back.
2. Its clearly influenced heavy by 1e/2e.
3. The Calimshan Desert looks much smaller to me then in 4e which tells me it shrunk, which hints that Suldorph (probably misspelled that) is a living city again.

I'll have to examine the map more.






The map doesn't show any national names, the region is know as "The Old Empires" to the people in the rest of Faerun, however this doesn't mean they are back.

Yes the map looks quite like 1/2/3ed maps rather than 4th but we still don't know which nations have returned/recovered. As much as it pains me I'm gonna be a bit sceptical about it. I want Mulhorand and Chondath back, and old Calimshan is way better than the 4th ed one.

One thing I'm seeing back for sure though is LANTAN!!! Huray for steam-punk!!! Thank Ghond it's back!!!
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Irennan
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Posted - 16 Aug 2015 :  00:17:04  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeorey

quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

I don't think they're done designing the realms as a whole, so it had to be vague.

But it tells us more then it seems apparent at first.

1. The Old Empires are back.
2. Its clearly influenced heavy by 1e/2e.
3. The Calimshan Desert looks much smaller to me then in 4e which tells me it shrunk, which hints that Suldorph (probably misspelled that) is a living city again.

I'll have to examine the map more.






The map doesn't show any national names, the region is know as "The Old Empires" to the people in the rest of Faerun, however this doesn't mean they are back.

Yes the map looks quite like 1/2/3ed maps rather than 4th but we still don't know which nations have returned/recovered. As much as it pains me I'm gonna be a bit sceptical about it. I want Mulhorand and Chondath back, and old Calimshan is way better than the 4th ed one.

One thing I'm seeing back for sure though is LANTAN!!! Huray for steam-punk!!! Thank Ghond it's back!!!



Yeah, looks like it's back. I wonder if/how the Lantanna survived...

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eeorey
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Posted - 16 Aug 2015 :  00:27:14  Show Profile Send eeorey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

Yeah, looks like it's back. I wonder if/how the Lantanna survived...



TECHNOLOGY!!! At least I hope they survived, it would be a downer if it became another fallen nation whose bones are there just to be picked by adventurers.
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Irennan
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Posted - 16 Aug 2015 :  00:37:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeorey

quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

Yeah, looks like it's back. I wonder if/how the Lantanna survived...



TECHNOLOGY!!! At least I hope they survived, it would be a downer if it became another fallen nation whose bones are there just to be picked by adventurers.



As far as I'm concerned, it would be cool if they became a sort of returned Atlantis (and with this I mean that they survived by developing into a sort of underwater civilization). Diffan proposed this solution in these very halls a couple years ago, and I would really like to see it implemented.

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Gyor
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Posted - 19 Aug 2015 :  01:49:44  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I doubt anyone refers to Tymamther and Akanul as the old empires, and if Akanul was still on Toril it would been refered to in the Genasi write up in the TOEE Companions guide, it wasn't.

But we might know for sure in Erin Evans novel Ashes of the Tyrant.
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