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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Jul 2015 :  22:40:22  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

So Wooly, Jeremy, and I are all in agreement?

I think Hell just froze over.

What next? Grumpy Cat bakes us all cookies?



It's only the second sign of the Apocalypse. There's still time.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 24 Jul 2015 :  22:51:33  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well considering according to Dante, Hell is already frozen ...

Now if the Four Horsemen, then you might have something. *Shrugs*

All in all, any Lore will be welcome as much as finding an Oasis in the Desert.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Dewaint
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  10:39:49  Show Profile Send Dewaint a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, exciting News!

Stumbled upon advertise at wizards few moments ago, and am happy howsoever the content might be Well, at least for this specific one.

And don't get me wrong, I see at it as a Chance to revitalize a more or less steady stream of FR matierial with good content; hopefully like 2e era.

Was hoping that with 5e we would get new campaign guides, and to me sounds logic that The North get dealt first.

Now let's see how Wizards might satisfy the expectations of the fanbase. Am cautious optimistic that this might be the first of more regional guides, possibly like the FR ones in the late 80ies.

Fingers crossed and really looking Forward to it
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  13:08:47  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd still like to know something about Steve Kenson.

I have purchased Green Ronin products in the past, but nothing from him as far as I know.

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Shadowsoul
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  14:39:33  Show Profile Send Shadowsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm very cautiously optimistic about this book but at the same time I recognize that most of the optimism is due to the fact that we haven't really gotten much in the way content for this edition. It's like they've starved us to death and now we are excited about the scraps we are eventually getting.

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Delwa
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  17:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

I'd still like to know something about Steve Kenson.

I have purchased Green Ronin products in the past, but nothing from him as far as I know.



According Wikipedia He's behind the Mutants and Masterminds game, which I've heard a lot of good about, but not played.
His credentials look impressive to me, but I don't have first hand experience with his products.

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  19:01:43  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Green Ronin products I have are well written but could need a better editor. Indeed the first run of 'A Song of Ice and Fire' was later given a new edition to correct a lot of errors.
Still, doesn't really tell us anything about how 'Sword Coast' will turn out.
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Shadowsoul
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  21:12:02  Show Profile Send Shadowsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What I don't understand is why wouldn't you hire the best of authors who have worked on the Realms and have them do the books?

“Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!”
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Mapolq
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  21:19:31  Show Profile Send Mapolq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To be fair, ever since the Realms were published by TSR, they don't have Ed write every damn product.

Brian plus the guys at Green Ronin seem to me like, at least, an uncontroversial choice for authors. If the book will be good, well, gotta wait until I read it to say that, of course.

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Irennan
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  21:33:34  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is the equivalent to a CS and update on the Realms, though. It basically is the inaugural 5th ed FR book, so it feels strange to not have Ed directly involved. But then, we don't know what happened. It could be that Ed didn't have the possibility to work on the project, due to having to take care of his wife's health.

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Mapolq
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  22:27:51  Show Profile Send Mapolq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... true enough. I suppose if they start coming up with more of those, I'll excuse them for not having Ed write "the one 5e Campaign Setting".

But yes, in any case, things don't always turn out how people would want, and I still think they can make a good job on this one, and will probably buy it.

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Edited by - Mapolq on 25 Jul 2015 22:28:06
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Shadowsoul
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Posted - 26 Jul 2015 :  00:10:29  Show Profile Send Shadowsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mapolq

To be fair, ever since the Realms were published by TSR, they don't have Ed write every damn product.

Brian plus the guys at Green Ronin seem to me like, at least, an uncontroversial choice for authors. If the book will be good, well, gotta wait until I read it to say that, of course.



I wasn't talking about just Ed. There are a few other authors who have way more knowledge of the Realms than anyone else.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 26 Jul 2015 :  00:32:22  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure that Brian has worked with Green Ronin in the past. As I said before, it's great news that he's working on the project. Looking forward to see what it's like and what realmslore it contains. The FR specific crunch is welcome also as that represents opportunities to weave realmslore around it.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 04 Aug 2015 :  14:12:18  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone know what the page count on this book will be?

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Gyor
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Posted - 10 Aug 2015 :  23:58:43  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
JeremybCrawford mentioned that Sword Coast Map would cover an area the equivlant to several north americas, so what cities/empires would that include.
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Markustay
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  01:21:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Methinks someone is a bit confused (still) about the size of FR - The Sword Coast + The North is about the size of the United States (and thats not including the other two countries in N. America).

1e size Comparison from the FRCS

Unless - despite the title of the product - they are giving us a 'Heartlands' map. That would be pretty damn SWEET.

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Edited by - Markustay on 11 Aug 2015 01:23:44
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Irennan
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  01:30:11  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Methinks someone is a bit confused (still) about the size of FR - The Sword Coast + The North is about the size of the United States (and thats not including the other two countries in N. America).

1e size Comparison from the FRCS

Unless - despite the title of the product - they are giving us a 'Heartlands' map. That would be pretty damn SWEET.



The book should include some info on the whole Realms, so I think that they may map a larger region than just the Sword Coast.

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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  02:08:24  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

JeremybCrawford mentioned that Sword Coast Map would cover an area the equivlant to several north americas, so what cities/empires would that include.

An enormous map drawn by Schley would be reason enough for me to purchase this product. It's my hope they ditch the dark color palette and go with brighter colors like they used in Schley's Cormyr map.

"Several North Americas" to me suggests everything from the Spine of the World south to Calimshan plus Chult, and inland as far as Cormyr's western border.

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Rils
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  19:22:36  Show Profile Send Rils a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Judging by the map comparison Markustay posted, the Spine of the World to the Great Sea is roughly three USA's tall. One USA wide only gets you from the Moonshae's to Cormyr; another USA wide would get you the Endless Wastes/Raurin. Faerun as a continent is easily 8 USA's big, and even the western heartlands are 2-3 USA's.

@Irennan, I doubt it'll cover the whole Realms - otherwise why call it the Sword Coast? I assume it'll cover exactly what it says, and further books will delve into other regions.

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Irennan
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  19:26:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the article on the WotC site says that it will have updates on the FR and its deities post-Sundering, and deeper, more detailed info on the Sword Coast.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/scag

It will probably just be a general overview on the other regions, though.

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Edited by - Irennan on 12 Aug 2015 19:27:21
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Delwa
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  20:07:09  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

Well, the article on the WotC site says that it will have updates on the FR and its deities post-Sundering, and deeper, more detailed info on the Sword Coast.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/scag

It will probably just be a general overview on the other regions, though.



Aye. I'm thinking the general overviews will take up a short chapter at the beginning, maybe a paragraph to the respective regions, and we'll be nudged to the DrivethruRPG website for old pdfs more details until something new is published. On the plus side, we might get a little more of an idea on how much actually changed geographically during the Sundering, and what cultures from Abeir remain, possibly even how they're integrating with the populations around them. I'm not envisioning anything too deep in that vein, just a blurb of "the government of xyz region is for/against the Dragonborn that remain from Abeir" kind of sentence.

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Irennan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2015 :  22:27:31  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to the interview to Steve Kenson published on Dragon+, the book will contain info on all Toril post Sundering, with special attention to the Sword Coast and North Faerun. The maps included will be: an overwiew map of northern Faerun, a map of the Sword Coast and the North region, and maps of Waterdeep, Neverwinter, Baldur's Gate and Luskan.

The book will also contain info on a ''tremendous wealth'' of gods and cults post Sundering, info on how all the various races of the PHB fit in Faerun, and various game-specific material.

The page count isn't out yet, but looking at its weight (on Amazon) and comparing it to that of a 356 pg book, I assume that this book will be about 170 pages long.

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Edited by - Irennan on 14 Aug 2015 01:10:25
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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  03:39:44  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Overview Map of Northern Faerun, which seems to encompass most of Faerun I think, is sparse on hard information, it doesn't label nations states, it labels regions like the Heartlands, The Old Empires, the Lands of Intrigue, Unapproachible East, Lake of Steam, Moonshaes, Inner Sea, ect...

The Map is beautiful and it does confirm the return of the old empires, in what form I don't know.

There new Tiefling and Half Elf Variants, I'm look forward to that.

New subclasses coming Purple Dragon Knight, Oath of the Crown, Undying Patron for Warlocks, Elven Blade Singer, (said not in Dragon+ but elsewhere is Swashbuckler), Uthgalt Barbarian (sorry misspelled it), other stuff.

From the way I read it, it sounds like it will be a complete list of Gods in the Forgotten Realms, including formerly dead Gods.


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Irennan
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  03:47:27  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, he did say that the most exciting thing about the gods section is that ''they're back!!''. We don't know which gods will be listed, though, only that there will be a lot of them. Some will also get descriptions, according to the blurb on WotC site.

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Delwa
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  05:06:39  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm actually kinda happy with the overview map. As the article points out, it's crafted from a more "in world" pov, meaning not every location is precisely known. Leaves room for a DM to move towns a bit, or erase them with ease.
The half elf, I'm not sure on, but I definitely am hoping for a more 3.5 type of Tiefling as opposed to the 4e flavor in the phb.
Overall, the article got me a lot more excited for the book.

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