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Mapolq
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Posted - 25 Jul 2015 :  22:27:51  Show Profile Send Mapolq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... true enough. I suppose if they start coming up with more of those, I'll excuse them for not having Ed write "the one 5e Campaign Setting".

But yes, in any case, things don't always turn out how people would want, and I still think they can make a good job on this one, and will probably buy it.

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Shadowsoul
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Posted - 26 Jul 2015 :  00:10:29  Show Profile Send Shadowsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mapolq

To be fair, ever since the Realms were published by TSR, they don't have Ed write every damn product.

Brian plus the guys at Green Ronin seem to me like, at least, an uncontroversial choice for authors. If the book will be good, well, gotta wait until I read it to say that, of course.



I wasn't talking about just Ed. There are a few other authors who have way more knowledge of the Realms than anyone else.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 26 Jul 2015 :  00:32:22  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure that Brian has worked with Green Ronin in the past. As I said before, it's great news that he's working on the project. Looking forward to see what it's like and what realmslore it contains. The FR specific crunch is welcome also as that represents opportunities to weave realmslore around it.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 04 Aug 2015 :  14:12:18  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone know what the page count on this book will be?

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Gyor
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Posted - 10 Aug 2015 :  23:58:43  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
JeremybCrawford mentioned that Sword Coast Map would cover an area the equivlant to several north americas, so what cities/empires would that include.
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Markustay
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  01:21:13  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Methinks someone is a bit confused (still) about the size of FR - The Sword Coast + The North is about the size of the United States (and thats not including the other two countries in N. America).

1e size Comparison from the FRCS

Unless - despite the title of the product - they are giving us a 'Heartlands' map. That would be pretty damn SWEET.

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Edited by - Markustay on 11 Aug 2015 01:23:44
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Irennan
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  01:30:11  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Methinks someone is a bit confused (still) about the size of FR - The Sword Coast + The North is about the size of the United States (and thats not including the other two countries in N. America).

1e size Comparison from the FRCS

Unless - despite the title of the product - they are giving us a 'Heartlands' map. That would be pretty damn SWEET.



The book should include some info on the whole Realms, so I think that they may map a larger region than just the Sword Coast.

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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 11 Aug 2015 :  02:08:24  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

JeremybCrawford mentioned that Sword Coast Map would cover an area the equivlant to several north americas, so what cities/empires would that include.

An enormous map drawn by Schley would be reason enough for me to purchase this product. It's my hope they ditch the dark color palette and go with brighter colors like they used in Schley's Cormyr map.

"Several North Americas" to me suggests everything from the Spine of the World south to Calimshan plus Chult, and inland as far as Cormyr's western border.

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Rils
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  19:22:36  Show Profile Send Rils a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Judging by the map comparison Markustay posted, the Spine of the World to the Great Sea is roughly three USA's tall. One USA wide only gets you from the Moonshae's to Cormyr; another USA wide would get you the Endless Wastes/Raurin. Faerun as a continent is easily 8 USA's big, and even the western heartlands are 2-3 USA's.

@Irennan, I doubt it'll cover the whole Realms - otherwise why call it the Sword Coast? I assume it'll cover exactly what it says, and further books will delve into other regions.

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Irennan
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  19:26:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the article on the WotC site says that it will have updates on the FR and its deities post-Sundering, and deeper, more detailed info on the Sword Coast.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/scag

It will probably just be a general overview on the other regions, though.

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.

Edited by - Irennan on 12 Aug 2015 19:27:21
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Delwa
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Posted - 12 Aug 2015 :  20:07:09  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

Well, the article on the WotC site says that it will have updates on the FR and its deities post-Sundering, and deeper, more detailed info on the Sword Coast.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/scag

It will probably just be a general overview on the other regions, though.



Aye. I'm thinking the general overviews will take up a short chapter at the beginning, maybe a paragraph to the respective regions, and we'll be nudged to the DrivethruRPG website for old pdfs more details until something new is published. On the plus side, we might get a little more of an idea on how much actually changed geographically during the Sundering, and what cultures from Abeir remain, possibly even how they're integrating with the populations around them. I'm not envisioning anything too deep in that vein, just a blurb of "the government of xyz region is for/against the Dragonborn that remain from Abeir" kind of sentence.

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Irennan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2015 :  22:27:31  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to the interview to Steve Kenson published on Dragon+, the book will contain info on all Toril post Sundering, with special attention to the Sword Coast and North Faerun. The maps included will be: an overwiew map of northern Faerun, a map of the Sword Coast and the North region, and maps of Waterdeep, Neverwinter, Baldur's Gate and Luskan.

The book will also contain info on a ''tremendous wealth'' of gods and cults post Sundering, info on how all the various races of the PHB fit in Faerun, and various game-specific material.

The page count isn't out yet, but looking at its weight (on Amazon) and comparing it to that of a 356 pg book, I assume that this book will be about 170 pages long.

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.

Edited by - Irennan on 14 Aug 2015 01:10:25
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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  03:39:44  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Overview Map of Northern Faerun, which seems to encompass most of Faerun I think, is sparse on hard information, it doesn't label nations states, it labels regions like the Heartlands, The Old Empires, the Lands of Intrigue, Unapproachible East, Lake of Steam, Moonshaes, Inner Sea, ect...

The Map is beautiful and it does confirm the return of the old empires, in what form I don't know.

There new Tiefling and Half Elf Variants, I'm look forward to that.

New subclasses coming Purple Dragon Knight, Oath of the Crown, Undying Patron for Warlocks, Elven Blade Singer, (said not in Dragon+ but elsewhere is Swashbuckler), Uthgalt Barbarian (sorry misspelled it), other stuff.

From the way I read it, it sounds like it will be a complete list of Gods in the Forgotten Realms, including formerly dead Gods.


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Irennan
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  03:47:27  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, he did say that the most exciting thing about the gods section is that ''they're back!!''. We don't know which gods will be listed, though, only that there will be a lot of them. Some will also get descriptions, according to the blurb on WotC site.

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  05:06:39  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm actually kinda happy with the overview map. As the article points out, it's crafted from a more "in world" pov, meaning not every location is precisely known. Leaves room for a DM to move towns a bit, or erase them with ease.
The half elf, I'm not sure on, but I definitely am hoping for a more 3.5 type of Tiefling as opposed to the 4e flavor in the phb.
Overall, the article got me a lot more excited for the book.

- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

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Markustay
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  16:49:44  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What 'Overview Map' are you guys talking about?

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Delwa
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USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  16:52:03  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you have Dragon+ for Android or iPad, it's a preview image in the article about the Sword Coast Adventurer's guide. I'll see if I can find a link later.

- Delwa Aunglor
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Joran Nobleheart
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  17:47:25  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delwa

I'm actually kinda happy with the overview map. As the article points out, it's crafted from a more "in world" pov, meaning not every location is precisely known. Leaves room for a DM to move towns a bit, or erase them with ease.
The half elf, I'm not sure on, but I definitely am hoping for a more 3.5 type of Tiefling as opposed to the 4e flavor in the phb.
Overall, the article got me a lot more excited for the book.

Thank you guys for posting this information. I'll go ahead and reinstall the app on my tablet and see what's mentioned.

I am rather excited to see this book come out.

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dragonfriend
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  18:29:49  Show Profile  Visit dragonfriend's Homepage Send dragonfriend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First time after tue last 3.5 book that I am really interested in the new realms. I want to see the book as an alternate version, a reboot. I hope
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Delwa
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Posted - 14 Aug 2015 :  20:24:06  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The book will not be a reboot. WotC has been adamant about that since the advent of 5e. It is a return to the way things were. The Spellplague happened, but things are getting back to the way things were in the good old days, at least according to their sales pitch.
While they can't please everyone, I feel they're doing a good job of giving us the best of both worlds; the old school Realms and the new fans that enjoyed the 4e Realms.

Oh, and Markustay, I can't get the image to share directly, but I took a screenshot of the map in question. If you hit my name in my signature, it'll take you to my Google Plus profile, and the screenshot is in the most recent public post.


- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus

Edited by - Delwa on 14 Aug 2015 20:24:57
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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:19:48  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The map can also be found here: http://community.wizards.com/sites/mtgcommunity/files/5E%20Map_1.pdf (courtesy of mykesfree, on the WotC forums).

Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things.
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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:21:26  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

The map can also be found here: http://community.wizards.com/sites/mtgcommunity/files/5E%20Map_1.pdf (courtesy of mykesfree, on the WotC forums).



Thanks! I need to learn how to figure that out.

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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:23:07  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that it is rather weird that the map is completely blank. I mean, even adventurer-maps should have cities on them...

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Delwa
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USA
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  01:49:38  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

I think that it is rather weird that the map is completely blank. I mean, even adventurer-maps should have cities on them...


I can see that. I'm just seeing it as an opportunity to fill it in as I build my own Faerūn. I'm guessing the context of the map within the book might explain that more. I mean, a map of the whole continent isn't very useful to an adventurer, a map of a smaller area or region is. A map of all Faerūn is more useful to get an idea of where larger things are, like mtn ranges and lakes.

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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

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Irennan
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  02:06:21  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also countries and notorious cities and locations. But yes, the context will probably explain the lack of certain info.

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Rymac
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  03:37:10  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The map is reminiscent of the 1e/2e Realms. I like it! You really get a sense of how far north The North is again; not to mention the length and breadth of the Faerun.
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Delwa
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  05:13:41  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rymac

The map is reminiscent of the 1e/2e Realms. I like it! You really get a sense of how far north The North is again; not to mention the length and breadth of the Faerun.


I was wondering about that. The Sword Coast didn't look tilted like it did in 3e. I wasn't sure if I was seeing things or not.

- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!

"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus
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Markustay
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  07:08:18  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its definitely the 1e/2e layout.

Thanks for the link

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George Krashos
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  13:12:52  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Rymac
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Posted - 15 Aug 2015 :  18:39:33  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Not what I would describe as a particularly exciting map.

-- George Krashos



Yea, it's pretty bare at this point. It's an overall map showing the regions. More detail will come later, and if it doesn't, those of us Realms veterans have two-to-three decades of material to fill out the map.
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