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moonbeast
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Posted - 29 Oct 2015 :  20:21:56  Show Profile Send moonbeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tarlyn

For what it is worth, I am 50 pages into the book and really enjoying it.
My brief impression of each section I read is below. The section covering major events in the timeline just gives the setting defining highlights. So major events like time of troubles, spell plague and sundering are covered along with a few others. It provides a summary of the sundering as well from a mortals perspective. The deities section gives details about how and why each god is worshipped. It also covers what religious institutions a particular god has. So deity X might have temples and full time clergy and deity y might have only shrines or no organized religious agents. The locations section is written from a particular individual's point of view. None of they are famous realms personalities. For instance, the first narrator is an agent of the Lord's Alliance. The section states that there will be 5 narrators. So far, amphail, baldur ' s gate and longsaddle have been done by the same person.

Also, for those playing 5e the new subclasses are neat.

Really looking forward to my copy arriving! Besides the obligatory 5e core books (DMG, PHB, MM), this might be the first 5th Edition book that I will actually use extensively in my campaigns! Yes, I got the APs like Elemental Evil and Out of the Abyss…. and while they have some interesting content that I could plunder, they are simply not adventures I would use for my own group. But this SCAG is looking more like one of the few gems that WotC will put out for 5e. Hopefully more such Guides are already in the works!

If this SCAG ends up being wildly popular among the 5e players, DMs, and Realms fans….. then I dare say WotC is committing a grave mistake if they do not follow it up with another similar (and of equal or better quality content) guide book within the next 12 months. It would be an extremely missed opportunity.

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Eilserus
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Posted - 29 Oct 2015 :  22:54:35  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looking forward too. Just ordered mine from Amazon.
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Delwa
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Posted - 29 Oct 2015 :  23:54:05  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

quote:
Originally posted by Tarlyn

For what it is worth, I am 50 pages into the book and really enjoying it.
My brief impression of each section I read is below. The section covering major events in the timeline just gives the setting defining highlights. So major events like time of troubles, spell plague and sundering are covered along with a few others. It provides a summary of the sundering as well from a mortals perspective. The deities section gives details about how and why each god is worshipped. It also covers what religious institutions a particular god has. So deity X might have temples and full time clergy and deity y might have only shrines or no organized religious agents. The locations section is written from a particular individual's point of view. None of they are famous realms personalities. For instance, the first narrator is an agent of the Lord's Alliance. The section states that there will be 5 narrators. So far, amphail, baldur ' s gate and longsaddle have been done by the same person.

Also, for those playing 5e the new subclasses are neat.

Really looking forward to my copy arriving! Besides the obligatory 5e core books (DMG, PHB, MM), this might be the first 5th Edition book that I will actually use extensively in my campaigns! Yes, I got the APs like Elemental Evil and Out of the Abyss…. and while they have some interesting content that I could plunder, they are simply not adventures I would use for my own group. But this SCAG is looking more like one of the few gems that WotC will put out for 5e. Hopefully more such Guides are already in the works!

If this SCAG ends up being wildly popular among the 5e players, DMs, and Realms fans….. then I dare say WotC is committing a grave mistake if they do not follow it up with another similar (and of equal or better quality content) guide book within the next 12 months. It would be an extremely missed opportunity.


Agreed. The demand for more mechanical options in the 5e groups on Google Plus and Facebook is pretty high. I'm sure striking a balance between the demand for lore and the demand for crunch wasn't an easy one. From what I've seen, the book will suit me just fine. I've got plenty of old material to fill in what I want, how I want.

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Tarlyn
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Posted - 30 Oct 2015 :  11:18:11  Show Profile Send Tarlyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I wonder which of the six factions has missed out.



Five of them from what I can tell.
-The first narrator is Andwe Cururen. A native of Silverymoon and agent of the Lord's Alliance. This narrator covers locations that are part of the Lord's Alliance, or that Andwe passes through when running errands for the Alliance. This includes Amphail,Baldur's Gate, Daggerford, Longsaddle, Mirabar, Neverwinter, Silverymoon, Waterdeep and Yartar.
-The second narrator is Drorn Waranvil a dwarven elder who served Adbar and Felbarr over the course of his life. Drorn covers the Dwarfholds of the North.
-The third narrator is Gardorra Burr. She is an former sailor and curent waterdhavian booksellerwriter. She covers the island kingdoms.
-The fourth narrator is Aedyn Graymantle. She is a moon elf ranger and native of Everska. She works as a guide, caravan guard and body guard. She provides insights on what they call the independent Realms. This is as far as I have made in the book.

The only narrator thus far that is associated with a faction is the first.


Tarlyn Embersun

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dragonfriend
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Posted - 30 Oct 2015 :  16:16:44  Show Profile  Visit dragonfriend's Homepage Send dragonfriend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What about Waterdeep?
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Rymac
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I finally had a chance to read through the Sword Coast Adventure's Guide. It is a very introductory book, and it explicitly tells us it is. Which means there could be more books in the future highlighting different regions of the Realms. Or we can hope, at least. To those of us who played back in the 80s and 90s, we're never going to see that level of published detail again. (It was the Golden Age of the published Forgotten Realms.) The published Realms material through 3.5e spoiled us. It's almost like I'm addicted to the Realms, and I just can't get enough to calm the fixation. The Sword Coast Adventure's Guide is the first real fix I've had in a long while!

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Irennan
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Posted - 30 Oct 2015 :  19:45:55  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is Volo mentioned anywhere/does he make an appearance in the book? It would be nice if they at least homaged him, seeing the first person narrator style of the chapter regarding the Sword Coast.

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Gambit
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I did not see any of Volo in there Irennan.

Another character I also haven't seen is Mr Craulnober. I have largely been away from the Realms since the Spellplague dropped, can anyone tell me if Elaith was covered in any of the novels and what his current status is? Luckily hes an elf so can logically still be gracing us with his snarky presence.
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Irennan
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  13:06:26  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gambit

I did not see any of Volo in there Irennan.

Another character I also haven't seen is Mr Craulnober. I have largely been away from the Realms since the Spellplague dropped, can anyone tell me if Elaith was covered in any of the novels and what his current status is? Luckily hes an elf so can logically still be gracing us with his snarky presence.



Thanks for looking. Elaith's fate isn't covered anywhere, AFAIK, so we don't know what he has been up to during the 4e century.

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Gyor
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Ghaunadaur's still worshipped by some Drow according to the Elf Racial Section, so he's still a god. He's not the only one mentioned as being a God in SCAG, but not listed in the Gods section. Its really goofy and its something an editor should have rectified.

So don't assume that its a full list. The book is well written for the most part, but poorly organized and edited.
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Irennan
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  17:06:02  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

Ghaunadaur's still worshipped by some Drow according to the Elf Racial Section, so he's still a god. He's not the only one mentioned as being a God in SCAG, but not listed in the Gods section. Its really goofy and its something an editor should have rectified.

So don't assume that its a full list. The book is well written for the most part, but poorly organized and edited.



Has Velsharoon been mentioned anywhere? He's one of the few gods that were completely ignored in 5e thus far. Did they replace him with returned Myrkul?

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  19:35:58  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

Ghaunadaur's still worshipped by some Drow according to the Elf Racial Section, so he's still a god. He's not the only one mentioned as being a God in SCAG, but not listed in the Gods section.


It's possible that the authors reasoned that Ghaunadaur is really not a drow god/primordial/whatever. (I kinda like the distinction of primordials being powerful entities which aren't exactly gods, but I'm not a fan of the 4e reorganization of the pantheon.)

Point is: Ghaunadaur was discovered and adopted by some Ilythiiri, back in the day, but it's never been a drow god. It doesn't manifest drow avatars, and it doesn't care about the drow beyond how much power they can give it. Putting it in the drow pantheon was kinda sloppy when it was originally done. Taking it out is fixing a logic problem.

So it makes sense (to me) that Ghaunadaur is still a powerful entity of some sort, but not listed on any pantheons.
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  20:25:46  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I caved in and bought the big FR map, too. It's quite beautiful. I just wish there was one with a hex overlay, so I could use it to calculate distances. I tried downloading the distance calculator from Candlekeep but it won't run (something about a missing .dll file). I'm trying to figure out just how long the Triboar Trail is, any takers?
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Delwa
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  21:02:05  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

I caved in and bought the big FR map, too. It's quite beautiful. I just wish there was one with a hex overlay, so I could use it to calculate distances. I tried downloading the distance calculator from Candlekeep but it won't run (something about a missing .dll file). I'm trying to figure out just how long the Triboar Trail is, any takers?


If you Google the missing .dll, download it, and copy it to the folder you extracted the Travel Calculator to, the program opens.
Also, from the High Road to Conyberry is about 65 miles, according to the map in LMoP, which does have hexes.

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  21:22:06  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, but the trail continues farther east, hence the question. But thank you for the tip!
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Delwa
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  21:28:28  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

Yes, but the trail continues farther east, hence the question. But thank you for the tip!


No problem! And eyeballing it, it looks like from Conyberry to Triboar is an additional 25-50 miles? It appears slightly shorter than from the High Road to Conyberry. Just measuring with a ruler on the big Sword Coast map from approximately where Connyberry is, it's closer to 50 miles in a straight line.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 01 Nov 2015 :  21:40:18  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

I caved in and bought the big FR map, too. It's quite beautiful. I just wish there was one with a hex overlay, so I could use it to calculate distances. I tried downloading the distance calculator from Candlekeep but it won't run (something about a missing .dll file). I'm trying to figure out just how long the Triboar Trail is, any takers?



Oh for the days of OGB which came with a A4 size clear plastic sheet with Hexs printed on it for both the Faerun map and the more zoomed in Dalelands and Western Hearland maps

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 02 Nov 2015 :  07:56:29  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I actually do have the 2nd edition boxed set with those sheets, but I suspect that the distances are different between 2nd and 5th edition. It is obviously not a big deal, as I'm prepping a RPG reunion weekend (two weeks to go, wee!) and I'm going to run LOST MINE OF PHANDELVER with some embellishments. One such embellishment is that they come to the crossroads where the Triboar Trail begins (on the High Road), to meet a Seven Suns Trading Coster caravan with some NPCs (an opportunity to introduce PCs, and to ask the caravan NPCs any questions - and maybe buying a map from him, the map of the region from the starter set which I have printed out and rolled up).
I decided to have a huge stone/monolith on the crossroads with a few pointers, like "Neverwinter, 40 miles north", "Waterdeep 190 miles south", "Triboar," etc. just to give the characters / players that feeling of a large world outside their immediate attention.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 02 Nov 2015 :  23:13:48  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caladan Brood

I actually do have the 2nd edition boxed set with those sheets, but I suspect that the distances are different between 2nd and 5th edition. It is obviously not a big deal, as I'm prepping a RPG reunion weekend (two weeks to go, wee!) and I'm going to run LOST MINE OF PHANDELVER with some embellishments. One such embellishment is that they come to the crossroads where the Triboar Trail begins (on the High Road), to meet a Seven Suns Trading Coster caravan with some NPCs (an opportunity to introduce PCs, and to ask the caravan NPCs any questions - and maybe buying a map from him, the map of the region from the starter set which I have printed out and rolled up).
I decided to have a huge stone/monolith on the crossroads with a few pointers, like "Neverwinter, 40 miles north", "Waterdeep 190 miles south", "Triboar," etc. just to give the characters / players that feeling of a large world outside their immediate attention.



2ed Box set?!?!?

You young wipper snapper!

The OGB (Original Grey Boxset) is the first edition Forgotten realms Campaign setting

:-p

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Gambit
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quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

quote:
Originally posted by Gambit

I did not see any of Volo in there Irennan.

Another character I also haven't seen is Mr Craulnober. I have largely been away from the Realms since the Spellplague dropped, can anyone tell me if Elaith was covered in any of the novels and what his current status is? Luckily hes an elf so can logically still be gracing us with his snarky presence.



Thanks for looking. Elaith's fate isn't covered anywhere, AFAIK, so we don't know what he has been up to during the 4e century.


That's a shame, I feel like he was right on the verge of alignment shifting from NE to TN, some good old fashion character growth. I am definitely interested in seeing him revisited when they get around to it.
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 03 Nov 2015 :  09:59:07  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ordered the book today, it's hard not to when you have the rest of the 5th edition material. Anyway, could anyone spoil me on the state of Neverwinter?
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George Krashos
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Well, I have it and can't help but be impressed. There's enough detail to give DMs a boost if running a 5E campaign in the North, some clever updates and changes to places and organisations as well as a bunch of crunch that has utility for all gamers, not just FR fans. There's also lots of information provided in what I would describe as an "uncertain" manner. Uncertain in that the text speculates on what could or could not be the story/history of a place or person. Examples are Evermeet and Gauntlgrym. That's good stuff and if I didn't know any better, denotes the hand of our very own Garen Thal. I like the book and if it was the first in a series that covered Faerűn in detail, I'd be a happy man. I guess I'll have to wait to see ...

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Eilserus
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Sweet. Can't wait for UPS to drop mine off today. :)
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Irennan
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Posted - 03 Nov 2015 :  13:31:36  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll have to wait about two weeks, before I get mine.

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Delwa
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Posted - 03 Nov 2015 :  14:27:19  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Well, I have it and can't help but be impressed. There's enough detail to give DMs a boost if running a 5E campaign in the North, some clever updates and changes to places and organisations as well as a bunch of crunch that has utility for all gamers, not just FR fans. There's also lots of information provided in what I would describe as an "uncertain" manner. Uncertain in that the text speculates on what could or could not be the story/history of a place or person. Examples are Evermeet and Gauntlgrym. That's good stuff and if I didn't know any better, denotes the hand of our very own Garen Thal. I like the book and if it was the first in a series that covered Faerűn in detail, I'd be a happy man. I guess I'll have to wait to see ...

-- George Krashos


That's very encouraging to hear. Thanks, George.

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