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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 08 May 2015 : 04:00:38
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Originally posted by Taurendil
I think we should wait to read the adventure first AND THEN draw some conclusions.
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jordanz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 06:13:12
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Originally posted by Bladewind
With Demogorgon, Grazzt and Orcus around I think Eilistraee and Vhaeraun better keep their heads low, I doubt they can confront demonprinces even at half of their power. But seeing all the Dark Seldarines reactions would be awesome, indeed.
A human (albeit epic) adventuring party once defeated Orcus, why would a lesser (or greater)God be intimidated?
Now Drizzt on the other hand would need some serious help if he has any hope to survive an encounter with those "guys". |
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 08:42:44
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Originally posted by jordanz
A human (albeit epic) adventuring party once defeated Orcus, why would a lesser (or greater)God be intimidated?
Now Drizzt on the other hand would need some serious help if he has any hope to survive an encounter with those "guys".
Well, in the original The Throne of Bloodstone, the suggested the heroes who fought Orcus, were extremaly powerfull. Among the pregenerated characters, were powered up versions of the gods Artemis and Hermes. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2015 : 11:02:34
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Originally posted by jordanz
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Originally posted by Bladewind
With Demogorgon, Grazzt and Orcus around I think Eilistraee and Vhaeraun better keep their heads low, I doubt they can confront demonprinces even at half of their power. But seeing all the Dark Seldarines reactions would be awesome, indeed.
A human (albeit epic) adventuring party once defeated Orcus, why would a lesser (or greater)God be intimidated?
Now Drizzt on the other hand would need some serious help if he has any hope to survive an encounter with those "guys".
I think that Eilistraee and Vhaeraun are demipowers now (or Eilistraee, at least). We know that they can still make avatars (as Ed said that they manifested to their followers also through avatars, to announce their return), so they must be deities, but they appear to be depowered. Since they originally were lesser deities, that only leaves the demipower option open. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 14:21:09
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I was honestly hoping we would get another "War of the spider queen" type series out of this.
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 14:32:11
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Originally posted by Firestorm
I was honestly hoping we would get another "War of the spider queen" type series out of this.
Idk, I think we have had enough godly deaths (also, so many of them have just come back...) and power plays (which were the main point of the WotSQ and follow up storyline). Besides, after the Sundering, gods are forbidden from doing that kind of stuff, AFAIK.
It looks like the new RAS' novel will be tied to this, though. |
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Taurendil
Acolyte
Chile
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 20:55:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Taurendil
I think we should wait to read the adventure first AND THEN draw some conclusions.
Nonsense! The internet is no place for facts and informed opinions!
Humph! I like better the kind of forum where everyone says and thinks the same, not this bacchanalia of "I think's" and "I believe's". Where's your secret police? Sure you have one. |
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 20:56:01
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So, with the Sundering and Ao's new decrees limiting the gods influence, it makes sense the greater fiends wield sieze this opportunity to assert more control on Faerun. At least for now the demons seem to have a sound strategy for once.
Asmodeus best keep tabs on Faerun. Is he still a diety on Toril by the way? |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 May 2015 : 23:22:27
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Originally posted by Bladewind
So, with the Sundering and Ao's new decrees limiting the gods influence, it makes sense the greater fiends wield sieze this opportunity to assert more control on Faerun. At least for now the demons seem to have a sound strategy for once.
Asmodeus best keep tabs on Faerun. Is he still a diety on Toril by the way?
He's not listed in the PHB's "Gods of the Multiverse" appendix. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 May 2015 : 01:25:36
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Why not a whole derivative game (for emo kids)?
"Drizzts & Diaries"
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 May 2015 : 14:01:10
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Here is a link to and a copy of the synopsis for Out of the Abyss, the tabletop adventure for Rage of Demons:
http://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop-games/rpg-products/outoftheabyss
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Dare to descend into the Underdark in this adventure for the world’s greatest roleplaying game!
The Underdark is a subterranean wonderland, a vast and twisted labyrinth where fear reigns. It is the home of horrific monsters that have never seen the light of day. It is here that the dark elf Gromph Baenre, Archmage of Menzoberranzan, casts a foul spell meant to ignite a magical energy that suffuses the Underdark and tears open portals to the demonic Abyss. What steps through surprises even him, and from that moment on, the insanity that pervades the Underdark escalates and threatens to shake the Forgotten Realms to its foundations. Stop the madness before it consumes you!
A Dungeons & Dragons adventure for characters of levels 1–15
Drizzt isn't mentioned in this synopsis. Along with the other info we've gotten, this makes me believe that if he even appears in this adventure, it will be in a minor role at most, and that there's very little chance he'll upstage the PCs as a DMPC. The D&D and Green Ronin staffs aren't fools - they have to know that using Drizzt as a DMPC would be a huge turnoff for a lot of players.
EDIT: Extraneous word. |
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Taurendil
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2015 : 00:50:00
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Originally posted by Krafus
Here is a link to and a copy of the synopsis for Out of the Abyss, the tabletop adventure for Rage of Demons:
http://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop-games/rpg-products/outoftheabyss
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Dare to descend into the Underdark in this adventure for the world’s greatest roleplaying game!
The Underdark is a subterranean wonderland, a vast and twisted labyrinth where fear reigns. It is the home of horrific monsters that have never seen the light of day. It is here that the dark elf Gromph Baenre, Archmage of Menzoberranzan, casts a foul spell meant to ignite a magical energy that suffuses the Underdark and tears open portals to the demonic Abyss. What steps through surprises even him, and from that moment on, the insanity that pervades the Underdark escalates and threatens to shake the Forgotten Realms to its foundations. Stop the madness before it consumes you!
A Dungeons & Dragons adventure for characters of levels 1–15
Well, the next book in Salvatore's order is "Archmage" and the synopsis is exactly this situation, soooooooooo. Yeah, I think he will be
Drizzt isn't mentioned in this synopsis. Along with the other info we've gotten, this makes me believe that if he even appears in this adventure, it will be in a minor role at most, and that there's very little chance he'll upstage the PCs as a DMPC. The D&D and Green Ronin staffs aren't fools - they have to know that using Drizzt as a DMPC would be a huge turnoff for a lot of players.
EDIT: Extraneous word.
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Caladan Brood
Senior Scribe
Norway
410 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2015 : 07:54:22
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What the Forgotten Realms needs (in my opinion) is series of adventures that don't involve huge stakes all the time. As someone said elsewhere it becomes a bit too much with yet another super-threat to the Realms. Granted this might be an excellent adventure and all that, but I'd love to see more setting material that brings the fluff into my stuff, adventures that do not shake the world to its core.
Maybe hire some above-average authors to develop new Realms characters that stand a chance to become widely popular (I know, Drizzt as a concept is pretty cool, dark elf with twin scimitars and panther and all that).
More morally grey characters with interesting traits, appearance, or whatever, well written and with a few mysteries attached, and perhaps no superpowers, but rather a man or woman of the people, giving us a cynical, perhaps even humorous look on the Realms, the gods, the realm-shattering events etc.
If they could hire a Joe Abercrombie, or Mark Lawrence, or a similarly popular author - these guys really know how to write solid characters - to write a Realms story about a new character...a man can dream. I'd love to see someone like that do a Realms story.
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 10 May 2015 : 14:45:54
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Originally posted by Caladan Brood
If they could hire a Joe Abercrombie, or Mark Lawrence, or a similarly popular author - these guys really know how to write solid characters - to write a Realms story about a new character...a man can dream. I'd love to see someone like that do a Realms story.
From what I understand, the reason why Paul Kemp no longer wants to write FR novels is because Wizards offered to pay him below industry standards (note that I have no idea what those standards might be). So I really don't see them offering big bucks to a famous author anytime soon, even moreso considering they've already got a golden goose, R.A. Salvatore. |
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Lilianviaten
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 May 2015 : 16:31:08
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Originally posted by Bladewind
So, with the Sundering and Ao's new decrees limiting the gods influence, it makes sense the greater fiends wield sieze this opportunity to assert more control on Faerun. At least for now the demons seem to have a sound strategy for once.
Asmodeus best keep tabs on Faerun. Is he still a diety on Toril by the way?
Asmodeus remains a greater deity for the moment. But by the end of "Ashes of the Tyrant", which comes out in the fall/winter, I can almost guarantee you that he won't be. Erin Evans's whole series has been building toward Asmodeus being cast down from godhood. |
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
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Posted - 10 May 2015 : 19:43:11
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Interesting. So Asmodeus might actually prefer to loose godhood if he wants to affect Faerun more directly.
I think Evans, Kemp and Salvatore will have to be consulted and involved with this storyline, which is awesome.
Tempted to try Evans work now... |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 May 2015 : 23:25:35
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| Actually the MM has already spoilered the divinity of Asmodeus in 5e. Just read the section on the nine hells in the MM |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 10 May 2015 : 23:33:01
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Originally posted by Mirtek
Actually the MM has already spoilered the divinity of Asmodeus in 5e. Just read the section on the nine hells in the MM
They spoilered it even before the release of the MM: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/excerpt-bone-devil |
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sno4wy
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2015 : 13:55:25
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Originally posted by TBeholder
Why not a whole derivative game (for emo kids)?
"Drizzts Diaries of Crying with Scimitars"
Fixed. ;P |
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Lilianviaten
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 12 May 2015 : 03:48:38
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Originally posted by Irennan
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Originally posted by Mirtek
Actually the MM has already spoilered the divinity of Asmodeus in 5e. Just read the section on the nine hells in the MM
They spoilered it even before the release of the MM: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/excerpt-bone-devil
I HATE that they did that. Both Kemp's "Twilight War" series and Evans's "Brimstone Angels" series were giving us a fantastic look at the plotting and scheming in the Nine Hells. But they come out way before Evans finishes her series and tell us that: a) Asmodeus lost some of his godhood, and b) Asmodeus still sits on the throne.
It just makes it harder for me to get excited about any future reveals on politics in the Nine Hells. Ultimately, Asmodeus always wins because he's 10 million steps ahead of everyone else, all the time. |
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drizzet demons and dungeons OH MY!
