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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 11 May 2015 :  19:52:58  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal

This is just my personal opinion, but as BRJ pointed out, first we had a rampaging god, then elemental lords, now demon princes, what next, rampaging archdevils, rampaging far realm entities, rampaging bunny rabbits of the apocalypse.


I'm guessing far realm stuff will make another appearance soon. It might not be next-in-line but I'm sure it's in the pipe somewhere. It's true that there's a finite number of themes available; they can't do new stuff every time, and we're seeing the Underdark revisited already. I'm not complaining about Underdark themes, though, or Far Realm for that matter.

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Originally posted by dazzlerdal

And whatever happened to no more RSE's, or did they not actually say they werent going to do that anymore?


I could be wrong, but I think what was said was that the Sundering was "The RSE to end all RSEs." This does not in fact mean that the Sundering would be the last RSE. It means it was supposed to be the biggest one yet. I thought someone at WotC said they were going to have no more RSEs after the Sundering, but I don't have a quote for that and if it was said then that individual clearly either has a wonky definition of RSEs or was misinformed.

For 5e it seems not only are RSEs still in the toolbox, but in fact they are the only tool in the box. ("But but but... how could we introduce an adventure path without an extinction-level-event?")
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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Posted - 02 Jun 2015 :  20:41:13  Show Profile Send Drustan Dwnhaedan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Brian R. James

Let's see. First the gods send their chosen to battle across Faerūn, then Tiamat and the chromatic dragons ravage the Sword Coast, followed by the Princes of Elemental Evil doing the same. And now... wait for it... the Demon Princes of the Abyss want in on the action. Plus, the PCs get to help Drizzt save the day! I cannot wait to see which big bad guys will threaten the Realms next year.


Presumably, something involving Shar and the Shadovar. Again.
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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 02 Jun 2015 :  21:19:26  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I still don't even know what a Shadovar is ^^
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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 08 Jun 2015 :  11:13:19  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Before 5E came along, WotC's intention was to make the next "event" after Rise of the Underdark a Zhentarim-focussed campaign. Two of the novels were even turned over to WotC but have never seen the light of day.

Now that is a "story" I would like to see. Sadly, it probably doesn't have the broad appeal of simply regurgitating plots based on Tiamat (who is even more overused than Lolth!), Lolth, Elemental Evil etc.... Then again, maybe the Zhentarim rise could be linked to a new Slave Lords-like organisation?

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D

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 08 Jun 2015 :  19:47:41  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A campaign infiltrating the Zhentarim - or being Zhent and actively working against, say, Harpers..with a story taking you to Zhentil Keep, that cool citadel whatsitsname, across the Moonsea to deal with trade arrangements, harassing caravans in the Dales, with a climax in Darkhold, all of it set in the 1340s...sounds a lot more fun than watching Drizzt duel the Underdark. But that could be just me.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Jun 2015 :  04:54:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul

Sadly, it probably doesn't have the broad appeal of simply regurgitating plots based on Tiamat (who is even more overused than Lolth



Gonna have to disagree with you, on that one. WotC's love affair with drow has meant that Lolth has gotten a lot of screen time -- including a sextet of novels that are quite popular among FR readers for reasons that quite frankly elude me.

Tiamat, on the other hand, has been largely ignored, until recently, in the Realms. We had some core adventurers dealing with her that were shoehorned into the setting, some mostly offscreen material with her as a deity (her appearance during the ToT, her actions to subvert the Cult of the Dragon, etc...), and then a recent focus on her for another adventure.

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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 09 Jun 2015 :  06:13:35  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Derulbaskul

Sadly, it probably doesn't have the broad appeal of simply regurgitating plots based on Tiamat (who is even more overused than Lolth



Gonna have to disagree with you, on that one. WotC's love affair with drow has meant that Lolth has gotten a lot of screen time -- including a sextet of novels that are quite popular among FR readers for reasons that quite frankly elude me.

Tiamat, on the other hand, has been largely ignored, until recently, in the Realms. We had some core adventurers dealing with her that were shoehorned into the setting, some mostly offscreen material with her as a deity (her appearance during the ToT, her actions to subvert the Cult of the Dragon, etc...), and then a recent focus on her for another adventure.



I wasn't referring to the Realms, per se, but to the broader D&D product line.

Look at how much Tiamat we've had: Dragonlance (Tiamat by another name but still Tiamat), crappy D&D cartoon, Red Hand of Doom, Scales of War, and then Tyranny of Dragons. I've also missed a couple of things.

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D

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Dark Wizard
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Figured you meant core and not the Realms specifically. And that is true, albeit split over almost 40 years of gaming and multimedia history. Dark elves have been in the same since the Greyhawk days, but didn't really pick up in popularity, especially as a playable race, until one very particular dark elf ranger. They've become a repeat occurrence ever since, often accompanied by their spider imagery.

We had one Year of the Dragon event in 3E, but something like two Drow-themed periods, one for 3E and one for 3.5E if I recall correctly. Not to mentioned the scads of novels. Tiamat doesn't have a mopey good blue dragon paladin of Tyr wandering the North foiling the plots of her minions.

Recall the game is called Dungeons and Dragons and what bigger dragon at the end of the dungeon than the goddess of evil chromatics herself.

I see the three mentioned adventures as their respective edition's rendition of the Tiamat theme, Red Hand of Doom (3.5E), Scales of War (4E), and Tyranny of Dragons (5E). It's the requisite dragon themed adventure per edition. Or maybe they can't quite get the adventure right on each edition and the next edition is a reboot/reimagining.

Just like the game has umpteen Liches masterminding some crisis or another, or yet another demonic and/or diabolical incursion. The benefit of these latter two is the antagonist is usually more diverse in character as there is no singular deity (Tiamat or Lolth) pushing their agenda. There are in comparison a lot of demon lords and noble devils and many more liches (these guys seem disposable for the most part). Sure we bring back a famed lich every now and again, but how much staying power do they really have?
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