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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  18:37:04  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
xaeyruudh, Ed tells me:

The Watch officer in question isn't a member of the noble family, and so far as he (and everyone in Waterdeep) knows, the Thongolirs and the Thongolyrs aren't directly related (though if one goes back far enough - - beyond 303 DR, in this case - - who knows?). And yes, Thongolyr is a surname shared by about twenty families in the City of Splendors, which makes it by no means common. (Common human surnames in Waterdeep as the 1400s draw to a close are Blount, Maerammon, Telfeather, and Wintertal; families bearing these names have been resident in the city for at least four centuries, but have been more fecund than most since the mid-1460s DR.)

So saith Ed. Purveyor of potted Realmslore for 50 years!
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  18:39:09  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
And a followup:

Maereska Thongolir (of, yes, the noble house), a young and spirited daughter, recently caused a scandal in the city when she was revealed to be the mistress of no less than THREE older heads of other Waterdhavian noble houses. And a guildmaster, for good measure.
love,
THO
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  19:40:29  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Bahaha, I like her. Highbrow is amusing, but some folks have to wear tall headdresses to hold theirs. Those folks deserve to be scandalized.

Thank you both. Now stop letting us distract you, Ed. We'll just play with THO while you're busy.

Maybe we can create another scandal. Ahem.
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  21:57:41  Show Profile Send Xnella Moonblade-Thann a Private Message
To our Gracious Lady THO and Revered Master Ed of the Greenwood, well met and may the new year bring prosperity, good health and happiness to you!

I came across a scroll which had the following in the timeline it presented of the end of the years of the Spellplague:

1469 DR Year of the Splendors Burning

I was wondering if the year name above from the Roll of Years was an indicator of if Waterdeep had a massive fire within the city? One that would destroy not just neighborhoods or blocks, but the different wards as well? The reason why I ask if there is a connection between the Year Name and Waterdeep is because Waterdeep in known as "The City of Splendors", and I hold the city dear in my heart. (If I ever wished for a fantasy place to be real, Waterdeep and the Forgotten Realms in general is first place I would wish for!)

"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell

Please forgive any spelling and grammer errors, as my android touch-screen phone has no spellchecker. If I do make a grammer mistake, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.

Somehow I'm missing my Eberron stuff that the gremlins took when my laptop died over a year ago, but I shall get them buggers yet!

Edited by - Xnella Moonblade-Thann on 06 Jan 2015 21:58:34
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  23:23:51  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Xnella Moonblade-Thann

To our Gracious Lady THO and Revered Master Ed of the Greenwood, well met and may the new year bring prosperity, good health and happiness to you!

I came across a scroll which had the following in the timeline it presented of the end of the years of the Spellplague:

1469 DR Year of the Splendors Burning

I was wondering if the year name above from the Roll of Years was an indicator of if Waterdeep had a massive fire within the city? One that would destroy not just neighborhoods or blocks, but the different wards as well? The reason why I ask if there is a connection between the Year Name and Waterdeep is because Waterdeep in known as "The City of Splendors", and I hold the city dear in my heart. (If I ever wished for a fantasy place to be real, Waterdeep and the Forgotten Realms in general is first place I would wish for!)



While that is an obvious conclusion, we've had plenty of other year names that did not have obvious events matching the name. "Splendors Burning" could be the destruction of art objects or beautiful natural locations, or it could be picturesque lava flows like we see in Hawaii, or even something minor like the death by immolation of Bahb "The Sword of Splendors" Nounsilver.

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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  23:45:38  Show Profile Send Xnella Moonblade-Thann a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Xnella Moonblade-Thann

To our Gracious Lady THO and Revered Master Ed of the Greenwood, well met and may the new year bring prosperity, good health and happiness to you!

I came across a scroll which had the following in the timeline it presented of the end of the years of the Spellplague:

1469 DR Year of the Splendors Burning

I was wondering if the year name above from the Roll of Years was an indicator of if Waterdeep had a massive fire within the city? One that would destroy not just neighborhoods or blocks, but the different wards as well? The reason why I ask if there is a connection between the Year Name and Waterdeep is because Waterdeep in known as "The City of Splendors", and I hold the city dear in my heart. (If I ever wished for a fantasy place to be real, Waterdeep and the Forgotten Realms in general is first place I would wish for!)



While that is an obvious conclusion, we've had plenty of other year names that did not have obvious events matching the name. "Splendors Burning" could be the destruction of art objects or beautiful natural locations, or it could be picturesque lava flows like we see in Hawaii, or even something minor like the death by immolation of Bahb "The Sword of Splendors" Nounsilver.


True, Wooly, true. But I'd still like to hear from the Master of the Realms himself. You never know what he might know or have heard about it from Elminster!

"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell

Please forgive any spelling and grammer errors, as my android touch-screen phone has no spellchecker. If I do make a grammer mistake, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.

Somehow I'm missing my Eberron stuff that the gremlins took when my laptop died over a year ago, but I shall get them buggers yet!
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 :  23:59:03  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

something minor like the death by immolation of Bahb "The Sword of Splendors" Nounsilver.


Maybe Bahb matters to some of us! *sniff*

Okay, I'll stahp.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  00:38:20  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

something minor like the death by immolation of Bahb "The Sword of Splendors" Nounsilver.


Maybe Bahb matters to some of us! *sniff*

Okay, I'll stahp.



I'm very fond of Bahb, myself.

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  02:11:27  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
A follow-up query for the Lady Hooded One:-
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And a followup:

Maereska Thongolir (of, yes, the noble house), a young and spirited daughter, recently caused a scandal in the city when she was revealed to be the mistress of no less than THREE older heads of other Waterdhavian noble houses. And a guildmaster, for good measure.
love,
THO

I can't recall at the moment... but was it ever revealed who the THREE older heads were?

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

something minor like the death by immolation of Bahb "The Sword of Splendors" Nounsilver.


Maybe Bahb matters to some of us! *sniff*

Okay, I'll stahp.

Bahb always reminds me that it's easy to sometimes take the Realms too seriously.

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  02:35:20  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

it's easy to sometimes take the Realms too seriously.



You surprise, me, Sage. I didn't expect such blasphemy from you.

Another query born of my mad indexing project:

Stong, a merchant of Selgaunt in the grey box, is said to be of Sarbreen. Was he born there, or is he perhaps a descendant of a family that once lived there? What does he talk about, if a traveler buys him a drink?

Edited by - xaeyruudh on 07 Jan 2015 14:34:56
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  20:43:34  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
I bring this reply from Ed to Xnella Moonblade-Thann:

All of the year names "mean something" in the Realms, but sometimes it's something minor and local, and might not even receive coverage in the published Realms.
The "splendors" that burned in 1469 DR are NDA for at least a short time more, but let me say this: you should not worry about major destruction in Waterdeep at that time.
Which is NOT to say that we won't see substantial fires in Waterdeep in the future, or see or not see more of Waterdeep at all. That may sound cryptic or unbearably coy, but it's really just a gentler way of saying: I can't say more now, but aside from troubles pertaining directly to wizards during the Spellplague, and the usual bustling turmoil of local politics and mercantile skirmishes, Waterdeep survived just fine up through The Sundering, and we should be getting some sort of look at it in the future.

So saith Ed. Who is hard at work on something Realms-related right now...
love,
THO
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Eilserus
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  21:50:32  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
I bring this reply from Ed to Xnella Moonblade-Thann:

All of the year names "mean something" in the Realms, but sometimes it's something minor and local, and might not even receive coverage in the published Realms.
The "splendors" that burned in 1469 DR are NDA for at least a short time more, but let me say this: you should not worry about major destruction in Waterdeep at that time.
Which is NOT to say that we won't see substantial fires in Waterdeep in the future, or see or not see more of Waterdeep at all. That may sound cryptic or unbearably coy, but it's really just a gentler way of saying: I can't say more now, but aside from troubles pertaining directly to wizards during the Spellplague, and the usual bustling turmoil of local politics and mercantile skirmishes, Waterdeep survived just fine up through The Sundering, and we should be getting some sort of look at it in the future.

So saith Ed. Who is hard at work on something Realms-related right now...
love,
THO



[In my evil Darth Vader voice!]:I sense something, a presence I've not felt since....Volo!

Well, I can hope anyways. Or a campaign guide! ;)

One quick question, is there anything that can be said about the fate of the Forging the Realms line?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Jan 2015 :  02:03:29  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. Volo . . . hmmm. We'll just have to see.
(And no, that's NOT a hint.)
Eilserus, Ed guess that the Forging columns ended with the website redesign, but there are at least half a dozen submitted columns that never saw e-publication (their current fate/future is unknown). This does continue the tradition of long-running columns series getting abruptly ended and leaving coverage unfinished (e.g. the Border Kingdoms) and finished, often edited and illustrated columns to just . . . not appear.
Myself, I most mourn the FR Cities series in DRAGON, of which Ed managed to complete just Crimmor and see it into print (Teziir was completed, with maps and banners and all, but died in limbo when the DRAGON license that Paizo had ended).
Ah, well. Ed will just have to sneak more Realmslore into print here.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 08 Jan 2015 :  17:03:48  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, all.
I bring you the words of Ed in reply to Cards77 and his wife, re. the tabaxi and the gates in "The Halls of the Beast-Tamers" - - and here they are:

The gates lead to:
• the middle of a very long corridor on the uppermost “main level” of Undermountain (the level that the shaft in the taproom of The Yawning Portal drops down into). The corridor isn’t all that far from the Hall of Sleeping Kings.
• Several places, depending on whether or not whoever is using the gate is bearing a magic item or not, or is a pureblood elf or not, or is bearing a moonblade, or is carrying a specific gate token or “key” (enchanted palm-sized stone bearing a particular rune).
Bearing a magic item not a moonblade: A wilderland dell (grasslands) just north of Secomber (within sight of it), very near the edge of the High Forest.
Pureblood elf (overrides above): A garden in easternmost Evereska, beside a pond.
Bearing a moonblade (overrides above, so this result includes a non-elf carrying a moonblade): a guarded (by elves, warriors AND high mages) clearing in Evermeet, far from main settlements, and unmapped (referred to by the elves as “Threshold”).
Gate token: a rundown warehouse cellar in northeasternmost Scornubel (which, unbeknownst to the warehouse owners, was once a dwarf hiding-cache, which was when the gate was established).

And the tabaxi was magically snatched by a slaver working with a wizard, and left bewildered (not knowing where she was or how she got there) when a spell laid on her wore off, after the slaver and wizard were both murdered (in separate feuds). (In game design terms, she functions to broaden horizons (lure PCs in many possible directions, depending on their reactions to her).


And there you have it; so saith Ed.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 08 Jan 2015 :  17:17:40  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
... And I’m back, with lore replies from Ed to xaeyruudh: “Also, where/what is Lalambril? (Laramond Stillsilver, Lord Bard of Lalambril, from the ballad My Dark Rune Gone Away, chapter heading in Elminster Must Die!)”
And later: “I might have to ask you about Barrowhill”


Ed heareth your lore-hunger, and now shares:

Both of these places are in the Border Kingdoms.
The first is a short-lived (and small) realm, and the second a “new” name for an old hill with a tomb in it that has had other names over the years.
Lalambril is on the Lake of Steam coast, nigh the eastern end of the Border Kingdoms, and Barrowhill just south of Applegarth.
Confusingly, many humans give the name “Barrowhill” to a local hill that has a tomb or underground chamber(s) or entrance in it - - or is just rumored to. And there are lots of candidate places, so you’ll find locals calling hills “Barrowhill” or “the Barrowhill” all over the Sword Coast North, eastern Tethyr, and the Dragon Sea coast near Starmantle.

So saith Ed (again). The man’s on a roll right now, answering what he can, when he can (Sage, he has to check about the three nobles and NDAs, but thinks it may turn out to be okay…)
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 08 Jan 2015 :  18:27:32  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
And a surprise message from Ed:

Whoops! Forgot that the Border Kingdoms realm isn't the only "Lalambril" place-name in the Realms. But the other one is, I'm afraid, NDA right now.

Hmmm. Mysteriouser and mysteriouser, as Alice said.
love,
THO
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
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Posted - 08 Jan 2015 :  19:16:30  Show Profile Send Xnella Moonblade-Thann a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
I bring this reply from Ed to Xnella Moonblade-Thann:

All of the year names "mean something" in the Realms, but sometimes it's something minor and local, and might not even receive coverage in the published Realms.
The "splendors" that burned in 1469 DR are NDA for at least a short time more, but let me say this: you should not worry about major destruction in Waterdeep at that time.
Which is NOT to say that we won't see substantial fires in Waterdeep in the future, or see or not see more of Waterdeep at all. That may sound cryptic or unbearably coy, but it's really just a gentler way of saying: I can't say more now, but aside from troubles pertaining directly to wizards during the Spellplague, and the usual bustling turmoil of local politics and mercantile skirmishes, Waterdeep survived just fine up through The Sundering, and we should be getting some sort of look at it in the future.

So saith Ed. Who is hard at work on something Realms-related right now...
love,
THO


Thank you, THO. I can relax now that I know my beloved city is all business as usual up until The Sundering. Although, I am waiting to see what it will look like when The Sundering and 5e have finished with it. I guess I can wait patiently until it is revealed.

"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell

Please forgive any spelling and grammer errors, as my android touch-screen phone has no spellchecker. If I do make a grammer mistake, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.

Somehow I'm missing my Eberron stuff that the gremlins took when my laptop died over a year ago, but I shall get them buggers yet!
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Fellfire
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It seems to me that Ed has been "incredibly busy" for at least the last 6 months writing FR material, when are we going to see it?

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A Gavel
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Posted - 09 Jan 2015 :  01:28:57  Show Profile  Visit A Gavel's Homepage Send A Gavel a Private Message
And I would think that's a question that the answer almost has to be NDA'd. As in, Wizards will reveal who's been working on what before it appears if they want to, and otherwise we'll find out as it appears or goes up on Amazon and other e-websites...and everyone else involved (designers, writers, etc.) is bound by their NDAs not to spill anything.
Personally, I suspect Ed has had a hand in everything, because as a consultant he would provide details, lore, etc. to anyone working on anything Realms-related who asked him. We know, from posts made by Erin M. Evans here at the Keep, that she's consulted with Ed, and from hints and scuttlebutt from scribes who've attended various conventions, and from other posters elsewhere on the Net, that Ed has talked extensively with, for example, Chris Perkins this year. Now they might just have been discussing the weather, various sports teams, and cool board games they've both recently discovered...but I doubt the Realms WASN'T mentioned.
And to remind everyone: from the very beginning of the Realms as a product line, Ed's work has been part of, or the basis for, a LOT of Realms material that didn't have his name on the credits. And as I spot Ed-created monsters in the new MONSTER MANUAL, his influence lingers even where he (perhaps) didn't have direct involvement.
But I doubt your question, Fellfire, can be directly answered in this thread, by Ed or THO. Perhaps we can entice Wizards staffers who lurk (and I know they do!) to drop by and lay a few teasers on us.
But I fear that's the style of the TSR of yesteryear, not the corporation Wizards is now. Though my measure of Greg Leeds, their current president, when I met him at GenCon a few years back, was: what a nice guy. How'd he rise to be a CEO in corporate America?
Just sayin.'
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Baleful Avatar
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A query for Ed or THO:
I recently ran into an old friend who attends Ad Astra every year, and she recalls sitting in on a talk about epic fantasy by Steven Erikson and Ed Greenwood, hosted by Peter Halasz. Afterwards, she and some other fans chatted with Ed about the Realms and fantasy and writing in general, and he read them a story he'd written, that he had with him. She said the title had "the King's Skull" or something similar in it, and wants to know if it was a Realms story, and whether it is or isn't, where she can buy a copy.
I, too, want to know if it's a Realms tale and where I can buy it, so . . .
Please?
BA
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 09 Jan 2015 :  18:56:14  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Yay! Thank you very much!

Now... about Applegarth... I'm assuming you don't mean the one near Dumfries, in Scotland?

Might Lalambril have occupied land now known as the Realm of the Smoking Star? Closer to Alamontyr or Ythtym? I'm looking at this lovely map from the Wizards site. ...And though I seem to recall seeing Applegarth printed somewhere on a map or in an article, I'm unable to find it now.
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sleyvas
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Ed,

Is it true that Volo was turned into a vampire and has continued to roam the realms, stopping off for short visits to tell people about his travels.... and leaving dead bodies in his wake?

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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xaeyruudh
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Elminster might scoff and say Volo was a vampire even back in the 1350s... always draining the life out of Truth and Prudence.

On a tangent, are there other lesser-known Volos around the Realms? For example, I'm writing my own for a "Tour of the Coaster Cities" and another for a "Traveler's Guide to Elversult." Might your voluminous and wonderful notebooks contain the Knights' interactions with any similar um... sages, THO?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Jan 2015 :  02:11:26  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh



Elminster might scoff and say Volo was a vampire even back in the 1350s... always draining the life out of Truth and Prudence.

On a tangent, are there other lesser-known Volos around the Realms? For example, I'm writing my own for a "Tour of the Coaster Cities" and another for a "Traveler's Guide to Elversult." Might your voluminous and wonderful notebooks contain the Knights' interactions with any similar um... sages, THO?



I've actually got a Volo-esque character I've written up... I need to formally share him, one of these days.

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