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CorellonsDevout
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  03:54:13  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message
I have been wondering about this too, as I am also a fan of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun. Thanks a lot, Ed and THO!

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Irennan
Great Reader

Italy
2590 Posts

Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  03:57:20  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
I'm so happy I might as well go out dancing in the Moonlight . Thanks, truly. It feels good to be able to say that not only Eilistraee, but both my favorite deities are alive.

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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe

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489 Posts

Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  04:35:59  Show Profile  Visit Joran Nobleheart's Homepage Send Joran Nobleheart a Private Message
I'm one that prefers Amaunator to Lathander. Can you slip us any information on Amaunator in 5E? Is he still a deity? Also, should the answer be a no, what would be his domain or domains in 5E, since I've replaced him in my Realms with Amaunator? I don't have my 5E PHB with me just now, but I know the Light domain would be one. Would he have another one as a few deities do? Anything at all would be great, and I thank you for your time.

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BenN
Learned Scribe

Japan
335 Posts

Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  04:44:29  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

I'm so happy I might as well go out dancing in the Moonlight .

Naked? Having painted yourself black & dyed your hair silver?
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  05:04:44  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Thank you!
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Mirtek
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  07:07:31  Show Profile Send Mirtek a Private Message
Am I the only one confused by this?

quote:
[...]from excited reports of mortal worshippers personally meeting MANIFESTATIONS and AVATARS of the deities; i.e. yes, Vhaeraun and Eilistraee are both "back."[...]The gods in general seem more "distant" post-Sundering, more "heard from" than "personally seen."


So deities can have their cake and eat it too, appearing personally in the realms while being more distant and not personally seen
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  07:26:48  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message
I see your confusion.

I read the first paragraph as a warning to take what was said in the second paragraph with a grain of salt.

That, and the use of "generally" implies not all deities fit the pattern of being distant. I also figure that after the revelation of a deity's return, they may refert to the general pattern of being distant.

Clear as mud?

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paladinnicolas
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  07:36:11  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
Dear THO, I would like to ask Ed if, post-Sundering, if Maztica has returned as the 5e DMG hints or seems to indicate, people in Faerūn are aware of it and contacts have been made. Thanks!
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eeorey
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  10:40:37  Show Profile Send eeorey a Private Message
I would like to ask about the current state of the land and people of Chondath, in the novel "The Sentinel" Chauntea stopped the river Arrabar (I'm assuming it's the river that separated Chondath from Sespech) from overflowing so that the people living there can gather their harvest. Being as there are people still living there even after the nation was destroyed during the Spellplague, are they planing/attempting to rebuild the cities or maybe build new ones?
Also before the Spellplague chondathans didn't have the best of relations with the inhabitants of the Chondalwood, namely the elves and druids of the Emerald Enclave, has that changed in all those years?

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Irennan
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Italy
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  11:06:44  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

I see your confusion.

I read the first paragraph as a warning to take what was said in the second paragraph with a grain of salt.

That, and the use of "generally" implies not all deities fit the pattern of being distant. I also figure that after the revelation of a deity's return, they may refert to the general pattern of being distant.

Clear as mud?



Yeah, their followers have to know of their return somehow, so the deties need to ''inform'' them in a way. Also, perhaps deities manifested during the Sundering, but with the new Tablets of Fate they will be forced to remain distant after it (after all, during that event the gods went crazy trying to gather as much power as they could, to secure their status before Ao sealed it with the tablets. So it makes sense that two deities who have been inactive for a century would try to let their followers know and rejoyce of their return)


quote:
Naked? Having painted yourself black & dyed your hair silver?


Lol, I would try that once, but I have a feeling that the police would be after me in no time if I did

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Edited by - Irennan on 17 Apr 2015 11:36:23
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paladinnicolas
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  12:12:06  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
One more question: with Tyr's return, do knights devoted to the original Triad emerge or are founded again? (Triadic knights); is there some sort of implocation for the churches of Torm and Ilmater? Thanks!
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TBeholder
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Posted - 17 Apr 2015 :  16:47:22  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BenN

quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

I'm so happy I might as well go out dancing in the Moonlight .
Naked? Having painted yourself black & dyed your hair silver?
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

Lol, I would try that once, but I have a feeling that the police would be after me in no time if I did

And the solution to that problem is simple: traditionally, it's done not in the middle of a street.

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch
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xaeyruudh
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USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2015 :  00:09:50  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
A little while ago I asked (though I can't find it now) about the names of the other continents on Toril, and you (THO) said the answer would depend on which map I was looking at because they've moved around. I'm finally ready to pick a map and make a more specific inquiry.

On page 231 of the 3e campaign setting, there's a map showing (by my count) eight continents and a few farflung islands. I know there might be a lot to say about these, and I'm all ears as always, but to keep this particular query simple I'm only looking for names. If you haven't named them yet, that's quite alright. (The Knights probably haven't checked "set foot on every continent of Toril" off the bucket list yet, right?)

First question: are all of these continents based on the original maps, or is this someone else's work?

The first mysterious continent: Osse? A large continent east of Malatra, across the Eastern Sea. This continent has four sets of outlying islands, large ones to the north and southwest plus two chains to the east.

(Sidetrek! I'm also curious about two large islands or groups of islands, too small to be considered continents, between Kara-Tur and this continent. One is midway between the eastern tip of Malatra and the northwest corner of the mystery continent. The other appears, unnamed, in our awesome Fonstad atlas on page 23 at roughly U-51 coordinates.)

(There are two more sets of islands far to the north, one relatively close to Kara-Tur and the other much further east.)

The second mystery: two large islands north of Maztica's continent, at the far left/northwest of this map.

3: Anchorome? The continent that Maztica is on.

4: the large island off the west coast of Maztica.

5: Katashaka? The landmass to the south of Maztica.

6 and 7: the smaller-but-still-large islands to the east of #5, going toward Zakhara.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2015 :  20:24:15  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
My Timezone Map.

I believe all those names are official, but a couple might only be considered 'quasi-official', technically. We never really got a 100% on whether thats Osse or not (although everyone just assumes it is), and Myrmidune comes from Brian James' original GHotR.

I had another map -a LONG time ago - where I named the other large islands. Strangely, people kept asking me about 'the Land of Flying Monkeys', which was only meant as a joke, so I stopped putting silly (VERY unofficial) names on stuff after that.

The only other thing I probably should have named on that map was the Ama Basin - that huge 'arm' that stretches out from northern Kara-tur to the east.


*EDIT: Come to think of it, Anchoromé isn't 100% official for the published Realms either - thats another general assumption (applying Ed's name for the isalnd chain to the large landmass that was on the 3e CG map).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 18 Apr 2015 20:26:54
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  02:54:53  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I believe all those names are official, but a couple might only be considered 'quasi-official', technically. We never really got a 100% on whether thats Osse or not (although everyone just assumes it is), and Myrmidune comes from Brian James' original GHotR.


The assumptions and quasi-ness is what I want to get past, by asking for Ed's names for them.

There's bound to be some regionality to the names too. Anchorome was just Balduran's name for the place where he supposedly landed, wasn't it? Back in the day, I got the impression from FR Adventures that it was a city he discovered or built, or perhaps a realm. Then it was given to the whole continent on a later map.



quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

The only other thing I probably should have named on that map was the Ama Basin - that huge 'arm' that stretches out from northern Kara-tur to the east.


But the eastern end of the Ama Basin is on the Yellow Sea, west of Koryo. That huge arm is something totally different, more likely the "Land of Snow Spirits."
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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USA
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  06:28:57  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message
Hello THO and Ed!

Given the prominence of the Royal Palace in Suzail thanks to its location, it seems like individuals would be inspired to paint a view of the castle.

If this is true, has anyone in the palace or in Suzail proper bothered to collect paintings showing the growth of the palace over time?

If yes to the first part is there a room or rooms in the Palace dedicated to housing such palace portraits, sort of like how there are rooms dedicated to portraits of Cormyr's many kings?

As ever, thank you both very much. :)

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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

Poland
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  10:22:19  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I have been wondering about this too, as I am also a fan of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun. Thanks a lot, Ed and THO!



E & V are alive? What happened to the Masked Lady then? Never happened? Is there a splinter of her somewhere in the post-Sundering Realms?

SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!

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BenN
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Japan
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  11:42:01  Show Profile Send BenN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael
E & V are alive?

E yes, V presumably so.
quote:
What happened to the Masked Lady then? Never happened?

No mortal knows for sure.
quote:
Is there a splinter of her somewhere in the post-Sundering Realms?

Yup, so the latest clack says.
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Irennan
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Italy
2590 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  12:40:25  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I have been wondering about this too, as I am also a fan of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun. Thanks a lot, Ed and THO!



E & V are alive? What happened to the Masked Lady then? Never happened? Is there a splinter of her somewhere in the post-Sundering Realms?



The Masked Lady was the result of Eilistraee temporarily taking Vhaeraun's portfolio (or of the two of them purposefully merging). Now that they are back and separate once again, that doesn't mean that their merging has never happened, but simply that they are no longer merged. Of course, some followers may still worship them as the Masked Lady and believe that she has returned (it could be an heresy, for example).

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  14:07:46  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I have been wondering about this too, as I am also a fan of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun. Thanks a lot, Ed and THO!



E & V are alive? What happened to the Masked Lady then? Never happened? Is there a splinter of her somewhere in the post-Sundering Realms?



The first indication that V is alive (and separate from his sister) was in Erin Evans Th Adversary. There was a follower of V in there. But it is still nice to have more confirmation, and as Irennan said, it wasn't that the Masked Lady never happened, but rather that the merger didn't last (which I am glad about, to be honest. I prefer them to be their own entity

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CorellonsDevout
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quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I have been wondering about this too, as I am also a fan of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun. Thanks a lot, Ed and THO!



E & V are alive? What happened to the Masked Lady then? Never happened? Is there a splinter of her somewhere in the post-Sundering Realms?



The first indication that V is alive (and separate from his sister) was in Erin Evans Th Adversary. There was a follower of V in there. But it is still nice to have more confirmation, and as Irennan said, it wasn't that the Masked Lady never happened, but rather that the merger didn't last (which I am glad about, to be honest. I prefer them to be their own entity

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crazedventurers
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  15:59:02  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

Hello THO and Ed!
If this is true, has anyone in the palace or in Suzail proper bothered to collect paintings showing the growth of the palace over time?



That is an excellent question and any lore that may turn up is most welcome.

Obviously given the magical nature of Faerun would it be possible that some of said pictures are gates to other places in and around Suzail (i.e. the perspective they were painted from?) to facilitate swift and discreet movement when needed or perhaps to a long lost point in the past (the date when they were painted) for a few moments in time where the current King/Queen can go to and briefly converse with a dead monarch to get a snippet of advice on something troubling to the current Kingdom? Or mayhap the High Mage of the Realm talking to a long dead Dahast for similar advice?


Kind regards

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Marco Volo
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France
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Posted - 20 Apr 2015 :  23:21:30  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
Thanks Ed and THO for the Dragon Coast lore. Feel free to add any information you think of.

Regards,

MV
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 21 Apr 2015 :  06:14:26  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message
Crazed, that was a great follow up question.

I think it would be cool if one of the paintings was a one waytime portal leading back to that painting's era, or a portal leading to a fixed size demiplane where every day at the castle is the same day over and over. Wouldn't be surprised to find a few escapees or refugees from Cormyr's past in that last one.

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Irennan
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Posted - 21 Apr 2015 :  15:51:09  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. Irennan, heeeere's Ed:

Communications being what they are in the Realms, with caravans bringing news and gossip and inevitable distortions as things get told and retold, most mortals can't be certain of much; they always have to trust (or not trust) retellings from afar.
However, the word spreading about the return of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun comes from excited reports of mortal worshippers personally meeting MANIFESTATIONS and AVATARS of the deities; i.e. yes, Vhaeraun and Eilistraee are both "back."
Now, as to whether they'll appear face to face with a given mortal in a given location in the Realms, that's a far different matter. The gods in general seem more "distant" post-Sundering, more "heard from" than "personally seen."

And there you have it.
The Word of Ed, so to speak.
love,
THO



Is it known in which year Eilistraee and Vhaeraun started manifesting to their followers? Thanks for your patience, and my apologies if I'm being annoying.

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