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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 16:47:26
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
Sorry to court controversy again but Bob Salvatore said that Wizards of the Coast aren't letting him attend Gen Con this year. They're not letting him go to any convention until Archmage is released.
Why is this a contractual matter? Are they worried he'll spoil his own book before it goes on sale? Why can't he go to sell Demon Wars stuff?
I should think that they can't prevent him -- or anyone else -- from attending. I would expect that it's actually a case of them not sending him on their dime. A lot of authors don't make enough to live solely off of their writing, so not having travel and rooms covered for a convention can be prohibitive.
Admittedly, I don't know enough about the situation to offer anything more than these generalities. I don't know the full details of the ban. I don't know the financial situation of any authors. And there are maybe three authors that I know enough about to know where they live.
This last fact isn't a reflection on anyone; it's just that for me, the hometown of an author is one of many details that are irrelevant to me as I read their material. |
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sno4wy
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 19:01:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
Sorry to court controversy again but Bob Salvatore said that Wizards of the Coast aren't letting him attend Gen Con this year. They're not letting him go to any convention until Archmage is released.
Why is this a contractual matter? Are they worried he'll spoil his own book before it goes on sale? Why can't he go to sell Demon Wars stuff?
I should think that they can't prevent him -- or anyone else -- from attending. I would expect that it's actually a case of them not sending him on their dime. A lot of authors don't make enough to live solely off of their writing, so not having travel and rooms covered for a convention can be prohibitive.
Admittedly, I don't know enough about the situation to offer anything more than these generalities. I don't know the full details of the ban. I don't know the financial situation of any authors. And there are maybe three authors that I know enough about to know where they live.
This last fact isn't a reflection on anyone; it's just that for me, the hometown of an author is one of many details that are irrelevant to me as I read their material.
I'll admit to not knowing much more than Wooly on these matters, however, I'm inclined to believe that an author who has been as successful as RAS should be more than able to afford attending Gencon on his own dime.
To court even more controversy than hashimashadoo ;P, I can't help but wonder how much WotC's decision is affected by the Edverse. RAS has released books on a predictable schedule and Gencon has always been the same time every year, and I honestly can't see what could be so momentous about Archmage that'd suddenly change things.
Does WotC have the same sort of hold on Ed as it does on Bob? |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 19:47:54
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Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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sno4wy
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 20:32:46
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Originally posted by Irennan
I tried searching his facebook, and found this : https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152962681029811&id=54142479810
I don't get it, does WotC really have the authority to dictate whether or not its employees can go to a convention? What the hell...
I think it's as Wooly said, that it's more a matter of not sending him on their dime than forbidding him from going places. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 20:42:22
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I thought so too, but then I read this:
''I don't know where I'll be going - and asking ME to come here or there is useless - it's all up to Wizards of the Coast.''
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 22:41:34
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Irennan
I tried searching his facebook, and found this : https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152962681029811&id=54142479810
I don't get it, does WotC really have the authority to dictate whether or not its employees can go to a convention? What the hell...
Pretty sure that WotC does not have any authors on its payroll; they are all freelancers.
I meant people employed by them in general, by any sort of contract, not only regular employees. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 23:52:48
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Originally posted by Irennan
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Irennan
I tried searching his facebook, and found this : https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152962681029811&id=54142479810
I don't get it, does WotC really have the authority to dictate whether or not its employees can go to a convention? What the hell...
Pretty sure that WotC does not have any authors on its payroll; they are all freelancers.
I meant people employed by them in general, by any sort of contract, not only regular employees.
I think it highly unlikely that there is any kind of enforceable contract that says "when we aren't paying you, you cannot go to this public event" |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2015 : 00:11:46
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| I don't believe that as well, that's why I'm surprised to read that phrase from RAS. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2015 : 00:21:16
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My assumption is that WotC isn't paying him to be there, and that he's unwilling or unable to do it on his own dime.
This is all an assumption, based purely on the data in this discussion -- I'm at work, and the Facebook is blocked. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2015 : 00:40:07
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A lot of people have been asking, and now I have an answer (and it's one that surprised me, too, honestly):
I WILL NOT be going to GenCon this year.
As it stands right now, my next appearances will likely be September, after the release of "Archmage." I don't know where I'll be going - and asking ME to come here or there is useless - it's all up to Wizards of the Coast.
Bob
ps. If this changes, I'll post it here, but right now, it's pretty certain that I won't be there.
pps. Clan Battlehammer started Sunday and lost. Team was rusty and creaky and old...
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sno4wy
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2015 : 19:38:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My assumption is that WotC isn't paying him to be there, and that he's unwilling or unable to do it on his own dime.
This is all an assumption, based purely on the data in this discussion -- I'm at work, and the Facebook is blocked.
That, and saying that it's all up to WotC spares him from having to explain why he's going to a certain place and not a certain other place. Some authors certainly travel on their own dimes to meet fans and talk, but most authors don't enjoy signings as far as I've heard.
Of course, Ed's the exception, but then again, he's an exception to many things. ;P |
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lilibat
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 04 May 2015 : 03:01:16
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So uh, kickstarter or go fund me to get Master Salvatore to Gencon? No idea if he'd even bite.
Yes planning to be there. Most likely cosplaying a Tiefling Warlock with my best friend coming as a Half Elf Bard, we may even have conscripted a full party as of tonight, (spouses & friends willing).
Gonna get awkward when we run into those Drow. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2015 : 20:56:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by SteelGandalf
so, Ball & Biscuit Thursday night, maybe 7:00pm?
I am interested; but I want to see what all is happening before I commit either way.
I should be able to go. I'm penciling in stuff right now, but I'm trying to leave that slot open. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1268 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2015 : 23:06:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by SteelGandalf
so, Ball & Biscuit Thursday night, maybe 7:00pm?
I am interested; but I want to see what all is happening before I commit either way.
I should be able to go. I'm penciling in stuff right now, but I'm trying to leave that slot open.
I should as well. Looking forward to it! |
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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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SteelGandalf
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 18 May 2015 : 19:31:38
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Just touching base here, and clarifying. We'll be down at the Ball & Biscuit tavern again on Thursday night, 6:30pm or so. We had a great turnout last year, great connecting with George Krashos, Eric Boyd, Steve Schend, Brian James, Brian Cortijo & more at the restaurant. Let's get the word out to our favorite Candlekeep contributors again, the address is below.
The Ball and Biscuit is less than 1 mile from the convention center, and has great reviews. I'll post my cell number up here closer to the con for coordination purposes, like last year. Sound good?
The Ball and Biscuit
331 Massachusetts Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Get Directions
Phone number (317) 636-0539
Business websiteballandbiscuit.com |
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Edited by - SteelGandalf on 18 May 2015 20:29:31 |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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SteelGandalf
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 18 May 2015 : 20:16:03
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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SteelGandalf
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 18 May 2015 : 20:31:41
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| JOINED. Look forward to seeing you all there. |
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 May 2015 : 22:00:49
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| I don't do Facebook, but I should be able to get there if all goes well. Do you walk to the location, or drive? My fiancee might need the minivan, so I would be without transportation. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 19 May 2015 : 00:34:03
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We walked there. From the Convention Centre and main cluster of hotels it was a 15-20 minute walk.
It had the added benefit of being on the same road as the English pub I went to on Saturday morning for the EPL season kick-off - so I knew the way!
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lilibat
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2015 : 04:39:28
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| Looks like my group may be going to the Thurs night thing. I may or may not be there as I was planning to arrive on Friday. |
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Galadhion
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2015 : 04:47:22
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| I'll be attending this year as well. I've got a table in the author's avenue for Snow by Night. The hall closes at 6 p.m. So I can make the Thursday night gathering. I'll absolutely be at the Candlekeep Scribes on Saturday. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2015 : 19:37:46
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| I won't be attending GenCon, so once again I will miss out on a lot of info. For those who do go, could you please post things you learned, or give links to youtube videos of the 2015 GenCon seminars, if available? I watched the ones where they discussed the Sundering. |
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