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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5056 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  04:10:40  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Well met again, fellow scribes. Just when you thought it was safe to pick up a good book and settle down to await Ed’s return (or at least that’s what I was doing), a surprise missive from the Bearded Creator himself:


A little more about The Simbul. First, following up on my previous revelations of The Simbul post, ambitious Red Wizards should be warned that she’s become hyper-alert for their ilk trying to get past her defenses by offering backrubs, so don’t even contemplate it.
Second, Elminster’s introduced her to dry Martinis, and she likes them even more than pina coladas and margaritas. No skewers through the olives please: just drop at least three of them into the glass -- and none of these tiny flared glasses, either: a pint beer tankard will do just fine. (Red Wizards, if you’ve started thinking that getting the Witch-Queen of Aglarond drunk is your route to conquest, think again. Kegs of strong spirit have been poured down her throat in unsuccessful attempts to do just that.)
Third, the lady in question has a tiny birthmark or burn-scar on the back of her right thigh, JUST under the curve of her derriere. It’s about two inches long, follows the curve of her behind, is about a quarter of an inch across, is silver (but matte finish, like her skin, not glinting or metallic) in hue, and wiggles slightly, like a tiny snake or worm. When she unleashes silver fire, it sometimes glows silver (but not always).
Fourth, The Simbul feels very little pain through her feet, and has been known to walk on daggerpoints or fire-coals without changing her normal swaying stride (note: her feet aren’t numb, so she’ll notice and feel anything she walks on).
Fifth, the Queen of Aglarond likes cloaks, and can with a cantrip conjure up her own “flutterbreeze” to make any garments she wears swirl or stream out from her in precisely-controlled ways, just as she desires them to. She often strolls around her palace clad only in a cloak wrapped around her like an untidy sari, and can choose to use her cantrip to hold it up in situations when, on another woman, it would fall away to the floor. Red Wizards contemplating embarrassing her by trying to cancel this magic are advised that she won’t be discomfited in the slightest by being laid bare. An angry old merchant of Aglarond once tore her a royal robe right off her, shouting that she wasn’t fit to wear it, and she calmly faced him down in just her skin. In the end, HE was embarrassed by what he’d done (and no, she didn’t harm him in the slightest, then or later).
Sixth, The Simbul used to scorn most ballads and tales as “wastes of time,” but in recent years (possibly due to Elminster’s influence), she’s acquired a taste (that she likes to keep very quiet) for passionate love-tales, the more florid and flowery the better (not porn, but the heatedly overdescribed “she pined in her gown of chartreuse lace whilst his smouldering eyes devoured her from beyond the rosebush of her ancestors” stuff. Certain Harpers have taken to penning such dreck and insinuating messages and viewpoints into it in hopes of subtly swaying the Queen of Aglarond’s own views -- but she usually identifies such strivings with a snort, and either seeks out the writer to fling his own work at him, or enjoys it for the passionate prose, and thanks the scribe with a mocking note requesting more.


So saith Ed. Well, well. You live and learn. I MUST finish that would-be Harlequin I once started. Not for publication, but to trade it to Ed for one of those mocking notes from The Simbul. Now THAT would be Realmslore to treasure.
Ed will be motoring on down to BEA in Chicago to join his friends the Book Publishing folks from Wizards, so this is probably his last message for a couple of days. By all means talk among yourselves: I’d love to read some of the scribes posting their reactions to Ed’s revelations in this thread. And (putting on my professional book editor’s hat for a moment) catch your reviews of ELMINSTER’S DAUGHTER. I consider it one of the three best-written Ed Realms novels (ELMINSTER IN HELL and STORMLIGHT being the others).
Ed has yet another secret project up his sleeve, BTW, but ’tis way too soon to reveal more . . .
THO
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  04:41:11  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has yet another secret project up his sleeve, BTW, but ’tis way too soon to reveal more . . .
THO




Well if that's a problem, don't reveal, but merely give a hint, or two, or...
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Crust
Learned Scribe

USA
273 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  04:42:06  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage Send Crust a Private Message
Now that is some amazing information concerning Manshoon. It really is a blessing that we can expect information like that here. I always thought it was a shame he lost his clones. They always gave him a perverted immortality. Elminster couldn't die, but neither could Manshoon, really. Even after being annhilated by spellfire, he crept back from the dead. Dispite the loss, it's still nice to know that Manshoon is still the Darth Vader of Faerun. He's probably the one character I'd like to see next. I was disappointed he didn't make even a minor appearance in Elminster's Daughter (which was an awesome addition to Greenwood's lore).

As for Khelben and Elminster, didn't they fight together during the fall of Myth Drannor?


"That's right, hurl back views that force ye to think by name-calling - 'tis the grand old tradition, let it not down! Anything to keep from having to think, or - Mystra forfend - change thy own views!"

Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"

"Some folk in the Realms would give their lives for the chance to learn at my feet," Elminster said mildly. "Several already have."

~from Elminster's Daughter, Ed Greenwood
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Kuje
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  04:55:45  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
Hi Ed, when you get a chance.

I'm posting this for Brother Shatterstone from the WOTC boards: "I'm sure many bizarre questions have been asked upon this forum but I'm not sure how many are stranger than this...

So many wondrous mines have touched the realms since their creation so I wouldn't be surprised if there was such a thing but I'm afraid that I'm not sure where to look.

Anyhow, I'm looking for a list of exotic fruit that are based in the Forgotten Realms. Is there a thing and can any of the mighty sagas help me find it?

Note: I'm not really looking for any real world fruit here."

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  05:25:00  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message
Hear, Hear!

I too am curious about the produce of the realms.


*Whistles innocently* And I am still wondering about the cuisine of Turmish, thay, Western Heartlands and the north. Or anywhere else for that matter.

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Bewoulf Kiliet
Acolyte

Brazil
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  06:20:48  Show Profile  Visit Bewoulf Kiliet's Homepage Send Bewoulf Kiliet a Private Message
Well met, Mr. Greenwood.

I'd like to ask if there's any piece of Realmslore you can provide me on the Kryptgarden Forest, when you have the free time to do so. What kind of plants and animals are there, what does it looks like, and how should an adventurer "feel" once inside the forest?

Thanks in advance, and more thanks for all the amazing collection of Realmslore you've been providing us with!

"Living comes much easier once we admit we're dying."
- John Petrucci

Edited by - Bewoulf Kiliet on 12 Jun 2004 19:48:50
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
508 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  13:14:06  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend


I'm not Ed, but I do know a thing or two about Khelben, so this'll have to be from his perspective.

"Aye, the Old Goat and I have clashed in our days, but for posterity's sake, we choose not to air our sordid tales of youth to sully the reputations of Mystra's Chosen.

Nowadays, our battles can be for show, as we both take on other shapes to hoodwink our foes into revealing secrets at a Magefair.

They can be for fun, as it is vastly hard to truly test a new spell's effectiveness without tossing it about a time or three among friends before lobbing it at the latest creature wishing to conquer the known Realms.

Mind you, even an errant rude hand gesture is better received and returned by Elminster than me, but one knows when to tug on the beard and when to simply leave it be. Would that the Zhentarim would learn such restraint...

The one thing I have learned across the centuries with Elminster is to not allow him to choose the weapon of a duel, mock or otherwise. His stomach can handle far more disgusting drinks than mine, and thus his duel-feints tend to defeat mine by seven tankards or more. I can only best him not in breadth of knowledge about artifacts, though I do know more about those who have carried them over the years than he. Alas, rarified knowledge such as this makes for dull dueling, even over our cups."

Khelben the Blackstaff
Who counted many a mage as his mentor but fewer still friend, and the last Aumar accounts for both



Thank you, Mr. Schend. I did wonder if I should have directed the question at you as well/instead, so that's great!

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Dargoth
Great Reader

Australia
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  14:24:52  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed will be motoring on down to BEA in Chicago to join his friends the Book Publishing folks from Wizards, so this is probably his last message for a couple of days.



Hmmm I wonder if we can get Ed to brain wash the head of the book department into doing that book about Bane weve always wanted!

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fourthmensch
Acolyte

USA
32 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  21:32:47  Show Profile  Visit fourthmensch's Homepage Send fourthmensch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

By all means talk among yourselves: I’d love to read some of the scribes posting their reactions to Ed’s revelations in this thread. And (putting on my professional book editor’s hat for a moment) catch your reviews of ELMINSTER’S DAUGHTER. I consider it one of the three best-written Ed Realms novels (ELMINSTER IN HELL and STORMLIGHT being the others).


As for Elminster's Daughter, I have nothing but good things to say. A solidly entertaining story, with all the intrigue (and occasional farce--Rhauligan's chase scene on Marsemban rooftops is hilarious) that you'd expect, and--if you're anything like myself or Karth--enough revelations to make your jaw drop and slip into a long bout of laughter.

I want you to go home and ponder the meaning of the word subversive.

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The stars my destination.
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lobotraxx
Acolyte

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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 :  14:50:23  Show Profile  Visit lobotraxx's Homepage Send lobotraxx a Private Message
To THO or Ed or anyone that may have answer to this. This is my first post, I believe, but I have been viewing everyones input and questions for awhile. I'm not sure if this was ever covered in any previous forums. I had asked this in the WOTC group before they took the novel board down. Now for the question:

In Shandril's Saga Book 2 Crown of Fire, near the end of the book in the epilogue, Elminster(In tankard form) told Shandril and Narm that she would be having a girl. He had received this visions from Mystra and she will also wield spellfire. In the third book, there is never any mention of the child. I'm not sure how much time has passed between the novels or whether she might have had it or lost it or is it being hidden for right now. What happened to the child and will there be future telling of this story? Thanks.

Lobotraxx
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Josh Davids
Seeker

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Posted - 04 Jun 2004 :  20:41:23  Show Profile  Visit Josh Davids's Homepage Send Josh Davids a Private Message
I just wanted to say this about Elminster’s daughter. Dear god man that was a great book I started at 3 in the afternoon and barring breaks finished by 2am, didn’t put it down for anything. By the end my jaw was left hanging by all that was revealed. And I must say I started to like Darkspells, Surth and Bezrar and just wonder what will happen to them down the years.

And Dear Hooded One you are right about this being one of the top three FR books, now if you excuse me I got to go toss it to my dad and tell him to read it now so I don’t blurt out anything in the following days that will ruin it for him. By the burning nine hells this was a great read. I don’t want to say too much and ruin for others who haven’t read it but man a great read.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 04 Jun 2004 :  21:37:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Josh Davids
By the burning nine hells this was a great read. I don’t want to say too much and ruin for others who haven’t read it but man a great read.




There's another thread for this fine book where anyone wishing to share their thoughts on the major developments within the novel can do so.
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fourthmensch
Acolyte

USA
32 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2004 :  23:47:23  Show Profile  Visit fourthmensch's Homepage Send fourthmensch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by lobotraxx

In Shandril's Saga Book 2 Crown of Fire, near the end of the book in the epilogue, Elminster(In tankard form) told Shandril and Narm that she would be having a girl. He had received this visions from Mystra and she will also wield spellfire. In the third book, there is never any mention of the child. I'm not sure how much time has passed between the novels or whether she might have had it or lost it or is it being hidden for right now. What happened to the child and will there be future telling of this story? Thanks.


IIRC, the child miscarried after the spellfire-wielding demilich tried to drain her. This happened in Crown of Fire.

I want you to go home and ponder the meaning of the word subversive.

Gully Foyle is my name
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lobotraxx
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 :  02:30:19  Show Profile  Visit lobotraxx's Homepage Send lobotraxx a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fourthmensch

quote:
Originally posted by lobotraxx

In Shandril's Saga Book 2 Crown of Fire, near the end of the book in the epilogue, Elminster(In tankard form) told Shandril and Narm that she would be having a girl. He had received this visions from Mystra and she will also wield spellfire. In the third book, there is never any mention of the child. I'm not sure how much time has passed between the novels or whether she might have had it or lost it or is it being hidden for right now. What happened to the child and will there be future telling of this story? Thanks.


IIRC, the child miscarried after the spellfire-wielding demilich tried to drain her. This happened in Crown of Fire.



But didn't that happen near the beginning of the novel? I know she had miscarried with the spellfire demilich. At the end, she said that she was pregnant....again.
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Crust
Learned Scribe

USA
273 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2004 :  06:41:11  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage Send Crust a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Josh Davids

I just wanted to say this about Elminster’s daughter. Dear god man that was a great book I started at 3 in the afternoon and barring breaks finished by 2am, didn’t put it down for anything. By the end my jaw was left hanging by all that was revealed. And I must say I started to like Darkspells, Surth and Bezrar and just wonder what will happen to them down the years.


Ain't that the truth. Darkspells reminded me of other over-reaching wizards in other Greenwood novels, such as Manshoon, Ilbryn Starym, and Thaltar Glaevar. Also, the pairing of Surth and Bezrar reminded me very much of Tabarast and Beldrune (if I'm spelling those names correctly).

Elminster's Daughter was just amazing. Classic Greenwood. I was so delighted to see the characters he was working with in the novel. Some great reunions for me.

"That's right, hurl back views that force ye to think by name-calling - 'tis the grand old tradition, let it not down! Anything to keep from having to think, or - Mystra forfend - change thy own views!"

Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"

"Some folk in the Realms would give their lives for the chance to learn at my feet," Elminster said mildly. "Several already have."

~from Elminster's Daughter, Ed Greenwood
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Sarta
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USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 :  13:32:51  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message
Ed, I've been compiling a calender of holy days in the Realms and I've run into an unusual situation with Midsummer. Several entries mention celebrating Midsummer Night, which I assumed was the evening of Midsummer day itself. However, other Midsummer festivities specify that the night time celebrations occur on Midsummer's Eve, making me revise my earlier assumption.

Am I correct in assuming that most Midsummer Night is actually on Midsummer's Eve?

Thanks,

Sarta

Edited by - Sarta on 05 Jun 2004 13:36:04
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tauster
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Germany
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  16:39:53  Show Profile  Visit tauster's Homepage Send tauster a Private Message
i can´t answer your question, but perhaps the following file helps you... it´s a calendar of many faerunian holydays: http://i.domaindlx.com/chefseehund/holyday.tip (rename in holyday.zip!)

tauster

quote:
Originally posted by Sarta

Ed, I've been compiling a calender of holy days in the Realms and I've run into an unusual situation with Midsummer. Several entries mention celebrating Midsummer Night, which I assumed was the evening of Midsummer day itself. However, other Midsummer festivities specify that the night time celebrations occur on Midsummer's Eve, making me revise my earlier assumption.

Am I correct in assuming that most Midsummer Night is actually on Midsummer's Eve?

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Sarta
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  19:11:05  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tauster

i can´t answer your question, but perhaps the following file helps you... it´s a calendar of many faerunian holydays: http://i.domaindlx.com/chefseehund/holyday.tip (rename in holyday.zip!)



Interesting, some of those weren't listed in the sources I was looking through. I'll have to widen the scope of my search. Did you work it up?

I noticed though that this calendar ran into the same problem I was hiting. This download lists Lurue's holy day for Midsummer as Midsummer Eve and then lists the Wildride for Meilikki as taking place on Midsummer. However, unless I'm way off mark, Lurue's holy day ends in the Wild ride which Meilikki's priesthood partake in. I took this to mean that the Mielikki priesthood's Midsummer festivities begin Midsummer's Eve rather than Midsummer day.

If so, then I assume that other Midsummer Night festivities such as Beshaba's, Tymora's, Sune's, and Sharess' celebrations are also on Midsummer Eve as well.

Sarta

Edited by - Sarta on 06 Jun 2004 19:16:02
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tauster
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Posted - 06 Jun 2004 :  20:19:55  Show Profile  Visit tauster's Homepage Send tauster a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sarta
Interesting, some of those weren't listed in the sources I was looking through. I'll have to widen the scope of my search. Did you work it up?

I noticed though that this calendar ran into the same problem I was hiting. This download lists Lurue's holy day for Midsummer as Midsummer Eve and then lists the Wildride for Meilikki as taking place on Midsummer. However, unless I'm way off mark, Lurue's holy day ends in the Wild ride which Meilikki's priesthood partake in. I took this to mean that the Mielikki priesthood's Midsummer festivities begin Midsummer's Eve rather than Midsummer day.

If so, then I assume that other Midsummer Night festivities such as Beshaba's, Tymora's, Sune's, and Sharess' celebrations are also on Midsummer Eve as well.

Sarta




no, i didn´t work it up. i found it some month ago somewhere but did not copy&paste the url into the document, so i can´t tell anymore who´s work it is. i think ed can answer the question about midsummer eve when he´s back.
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Gerath Hoan
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2004 :  00:23:26  Show Profile Send Gerath Hoan a Private Message
Hi Ed,

Here's question that's been interesting me ever since i got my hands on a copy of the Old Grey Box...

What was your initial conception of a Faerunian afterlife? 3rd Edition makes it explicitly clear that if you don't worship a deity in the strictest sense you qualify as either faithless or false, and get sent to Kelemvor (or Cyric or Myrkul or Jergal etc)'s realm to be judged and put to work.

However the Old Grey Box implies that the average Faerunian (i.e. not a priest or paladin etc) isn't that concerned about the worship of one god over any other. Does this mean they all become Faithless or was your intent for their afterlife significantly different from this model? Do they still end up serving the deity most appropriate to their alignment and character in the afterlife?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed, i was just aiming to make my Realms more Polytheistic without overly harming those players who'll be needing Raise Dead at some point in their careers.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  02:55:10  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, fellow scribes. Ed hath returned, and the Great E-Silence is at an end. Herewith, he tackles your queries, beginning not with the eldest but with a few that can be answered swiftly:


Sarta, ritual observances of various faiths and non-religious local customs are held on BOTH Midsummer's Eve AND Midsummer Night, with just as many celebrations occupying the daylight hours of Midsummer Day between. So as Elminster put it (when speaking of spell studies): “Consult thy lore sources with diligence, and re-read every passage at least twice. Assume NOTHING, and thy life will be the longer.”

Gerath Hoan, the average Faerunian lives long enough to worship (or serve through their actions) one deity above all others (though in many cases just which deity “tops their points list” may not be clear to a dying mortal or anyone who knows them). If a mortal dies with a mission or task for a particular deity unfinished, and it’s a matter they felt strongly about in life, they may well be “sent back” (reborn as another mortal) to try to complete that task by the deity they were trying to serve. Otherwise, they DO end up serving the deity most appropriate to their alignment and character in the afterlife. Only those who repudiate the gods (or who as a result of their actions are renounced by their gods), despoil altars and frustrate clerical aims (of any deity, not just “foe” deities), or never pray or engage in any form of deliberate worship will qualify as either faithless or false.
Only a few deities (Cyric might be one) are insane enough not to recognize and accept the polytheistic “appease this deity and that as life situations and strivings demand” model, and demand that their faithful worship them and only them. For everyone else, it’s a matter of embracing (or drifting into) primary worship of one deity above -- even if only slightly above -- all others.


So saith Ed. Who’s right hard back at work on official paying Realms projects, but will try to snatch time for more replies as he goes.
Light hearts and bright sunsets, all!
THO
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fourthmensch
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  07:26:33  Show Profile  Visit fourthmensch's Homepage Send fourthmensch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by lobotraxx
But didn't that happen near the beginning of the novel? I know she had miscarried with the spellfire demilich. At the end, she said that she was pregnant....again.



Yes. As far as I know, she died in Hand of Fire before giving birth.

I want you to go home and ponder the meaning of the word subversive.

Gully Foyle is my name
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The stars my destination.
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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  09:06:52  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message
I was just sitting down today and considering stealing some clipart and making some round cards on photoshop and printing them, when it hit me:

Will we ever see a deck of old wizard cards released? I mean, sure it isn't that big of a thing, but I reckon a lot of gamers would bu some for use in all manner of campaigns, handy as heck they would be. I could really see all kinds of nifty little props like this released, everything from dice to packs of coin replicas for effect.

To my recollection neither TSR or Wiz/Bro have released such a thing, but it would likely rake in the cash hand over fist, so to speak.


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Kuje
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  16:52:40  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Capn Charlie

I was just sitting down today and considering stealing some clipart and making some round cards on photoshop and printing them, when it hit me:

Will we ever see a deck of old wizard cards released? I mean, sure it isn't that big of a thing, but I reckon a lot of gamers would bu some for use in all manner of campaigns, handy as heck they would be. I could really see all kinds of nifty little props like this released, everything from dice to packs of coin replicas for effect.

To my recollection neither TSR or Wiz/Bro have released such a thing, but it would likely rake in the cash hand over fist, so to speak.


Sort of like the old TSR collecter card sets?.... Not sure what you are trying to describe.....

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  17:00:22  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message
No, playing cards. The round cards Ed described for old wizard, in fact. I was speaking about the clipart to be like the art on tarot cards, perhaps even purloined from online resources of tarot cards where appropriate. I was thinkin of the card backs being blue, wit hthe symbol of mystra on them.

I just got off on a tangent about more proplike items, and the cards seemed right up there on the list of nifty keen things to have. But then again, I have always been a very tactile person, and the thought of props has always excited me. Heck, I have even made scrolls and potions before.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  17:06:42  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Capn Charlie

I was just sitting down today and considering stealing some clipart and making some round cards on photoshop and printing them, when it hit me:

Will we ever see a deck of old wizard cards released? I mean, sure it isn't that big of a thing, but I reckon a lot of gamers would bu some for use in all manner of campaigns, handy as heck they would be. I could really see all kinds of nifty little props like this released, everything from dice to packs of coin replicas for effect.

To my recollection neither TSR or Wiz/Bro have released such a thing, but it would likely rake in the cash hand over fist, so to speak.





I don't forsee the Wizards releasing something like this. It's only of interest to Realms players, and it's not something that they can pack prestige classes and feats into. And even among Realms players, I don't see it being a big seller.

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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 08 Jun 2004 :  18:44:13  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message
I suppose you are right, I guess I am just boggled by the seeming lack of merchandising done with the realms. I mean, a captive audience of sorts, diehard fans, why hasn't there been tshirts, ball caps, and the like? About as far as it has went is the Drizzt swords, I believe. I just find id odd that hasbro hasn't "went there" yet. In fact, I haven't seen any real dnd merchandise of any kind since, the movie a few years back, I believe.

Is this done to preserve the dignity of the license, or something, or is it it just that economically unfeasible? Bah, either way this isn't the place for such musings. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.

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Taelohn
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Another request for Ed, if he gets the time;

I've liked the Realms expressions put forth so far, both for general use and those unique to specific faiths, and I'd quite appreciate seeing some more... for starters, what sort of phrases would be commonly used by those who worship Shar?
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I believe TSR sold off many of those merchandising rights long ago.
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Here is one for Ed. It may have already been asked in which case someone can just restate it for me.

In regards to Shar and the Shadow Weave. All the FR books seem to make that her focus (beyond spitting at Selune once in awhile). Is she really trying to put all her attention to the Shadow Weave at this stage or is it just an aspect and her battle with Selune and other goals are still just as important?(but as alot of magic using players out there it is given alot of attention)

Also can Shar grant her followers corrupted versions of the same power Mystra gives hers? (spellfire, silver fire, etc.)

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