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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Dec 2011 :  01:13:38  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

Rich was laid off by WotC today. Cheers to his 20+ years and may he have many more.

Though I may not have always agreed with some of his developmental choices regarding the Realms, I often found myself admiring his designer-traits and his ability to carry forth with new and alternate setting ideas.

He will be missed.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 15 Dec 2011 :  04:32:08  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

Rich was laid off by WotC today. Cheers to his 20+ years and may he have many more.

Though I may not have always agreed with some of his developmental choices regarding the Realms, I often found myself admiring his designer-traits and his ability to carry forth with new and alternate setting ideas.

He will be missed.


Agreed, Sage. Even if things developed differently than I wanted, he is still a great designer and writer. Best of luck!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Zireael
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quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

Rich was laid off by WotC today. Cheers to his 20+ years and may he have many more.



Whatever may be the reason for that, it is not that we are not already used to such news lately from WotC.
I hope this does not affect his upcoming Prince of Ravens novel!
And man...isn“t this nice one week before Christmas...



Rich's farewell message quoted on EN World says he'll continue working on Prince of Ravens....

A sad day, indeed.

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Ayrik
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Rich was instrumental in bringing us a ton of stuff. Some of my faves:
(2E) Planescape Monstrous Compendium, The Will and the Way
(3E) Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, Magic of Faerūn, Unapproachable East, Lords of Darkness
(3.5E) Lost Empires of Faerūn, Tome of Battle, Underdark*

* Well, okay, I confess I didn't really like this last one, not at all in fact, but popularity demands inclusion. 8/9 is still an excellent grade.

You are always welcome to visit Candlekeep, Sir Baker, as often as you like. Your contributions have vastly exceeded the usual entrance fees, though I hope you don't mind if we reassign your nice vacant apartment to some other worthy (and opportunistic) scribe.

Perhaps you'll join the Paizo team, win-win I say. Regardless, best luck in whatever ye choose to do.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 15 Dec 2011 14:50:25
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Dennis
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But he still gets to write more FR novels after Prince of Ravens, right? At the very least, I hope he could pen a trilogy detailing the new adventures of Aeron Morieth.

Every beginning has an end.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


But he still gets to write more FR novels after Prince of Ravens, right? At the very least, I hope he could pen a trilogy detailing the new adventures of Aeron Morieth.



Being an employee for WotC/TSR has never been a requirement for novel writers. I don't think it likely that we'll see more of Aeron Morieth, though. He's not been one of the more popular characters, and absent some method of surviving the Sellplague and the timejump, he'll not be around in the 4E Realms. With FR, there has been a notable reluctance to have novels set in anything other than the here-and-now.

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althen artren
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Posted - 05 Jan 2012 :  19:17:15  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So would Rich be willing to once again answer lore questions
from us as he no longer a employee of the MAN?
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Markustay
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Being an employee of TSR/WotC/Hasbro has never been a reason why someone would not participate here.

That was an odd thought.

On the other hand, it may have been suggested that 'in-house' guys don't hang around here, for legal reasons. For instance, if they came up with an idea that was very similar to one that was discussed here earlier, they could be accused of stealing the idea (although ideas can't be copyrighted - only actual written material, and it would only be a problem if 'lifted' verbatim).

For much the same reason that professional musicians can't really listen to, and offer opinions on, the un-published music of others.

But I think he just got tired of the Grognardize - it got pretty bad during the "Rich Baker must be stopped!" campaign. That was like blaming Einstein for the Atom Bomb.

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althen artren
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Yeah, I was under the impression that current employees
were encouraged not to be here. Just an impression I got.
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The Sage
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Posted - 06 Jan 2012 :  00:04:12  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

Yeah, I was under the impression that current employees
were encouraged not to be here. Just an impression I got.

I'm curious as to how you came by that impression?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Jan 2012 :  04:21:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Being an employee of TSR/WotC/Hasbro has never been a reason why someone would not participate here.

That was an odd thought.

On the other hand, it may have been suggested that 'in-house' guys don't hang around here, for legal reasons. For instance, if they came up with an idea that was very similar to one that was discussed here earlier, they could be accused of stealing the idea (although ideas can't be copyrighted - only actual written material, and it would only be a problem if 'lifted' verbatim).

For much the same reason that professional musicians can't really listen to, and offer opinions on, the un-published music of others.

But I think he just got tired of the Grognardize - it got pretty bad during the "Rich Baker must be stopped!" campaign. That was like blaming Einstein for the Atom Bomb.



Actually, I think it was mostly an issue of time -- he was doing the same thing on the WotC forums, as I understand it, and that was on top of his normal duties.

Somewhere on the WotC site, I once saw either a picture or a video interview of some WotC staffer who had a "Rich Baker must be stopped!" sign at his desk. I think if his co-workers were joking about it, it must not have been that big a deal to him.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Actually, I think it was mostly an issue of time -- he was doing the same thing on the WotC forums, as I understand it, and that was on top of his normal duties.
Rich Baker confirmed, around the time that he stopped posting here, that his increased workload with Wizards was eating away at the free time he would usually spend either here or on other non-Wizards' sites. That, and the fact that it was making it harder for him to keep track of discussions he could reply to in-between lengthy bouts of absenteeism.

So to simplify things, he opted just to concentrate on what was asked on the Wizards' boards. And encouraged his fans here to post over there -- when relevant -- and freely return here with his replies to queries passed over by scribes of both sites.

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Brimstone
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Here is his new blog


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althen artren
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Posted - 06 Jan 2012 :  21:41:58  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well, it seemed that he even stopped answering questions
at the WoTC forums as well. A shame, there were still
things in his brain I wanted to pick over.
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Brian R. James
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Posted - 10 May 2012 :  02:59:53  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fans of Rich Baker may be interested to know that he was signed on to write for the Pathfinder Online project - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-technology-demo

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Dalor Darden
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Fans of Rich Baker may be interested to know that he was signed on to write for the Pathfinder Online project - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-technology-demo



I'm happy...I am glad to see he landed in a good spot!
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Matt James
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I'm going to ask Rich if he will come back to CK now that he has long been removed from WotC. If he does, I ask that no one dog-pile him! :)
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I'm going to ask Rich if he will come back to CK now that he has long been removed from WotC. If he does, I ask that no one dog-pile him! :)

I sent word to Rich a few months back, though I've yet to receive a response.

Maybe you'll have better luck?

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Markustay
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I'd love to see Rich Baker post here again. His decorum during the worst of the anti-4e backlash was commendable. It made me ashamed of the way some of us (at the WotC forums) were behaving. I count him a gentleman and a scholar.

He supported a back-and-forth open dialogue with the fans long before it became fashionable.

quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I'm going to ask Rich if he will come back to CK now that he has long been removed from WotC. If he does, I ask that no one dog-pile him! :)
He's not my type.

But I'm open-minded, so whatever floats your boat.

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Dark Wizard
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He has a (relatively) new Realms book out. That's something to talk about.
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CorellonsDevout
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What is it? I believe the last thing I read of his was Blades of the Moonsea trilogy. I loved the Last Mythal books, and BotM.

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

What is it? I believe the last thing I read of his was Blades of the Moonsea trilogy. I loved the Last Mythal books, and BotM.


Prince of Ravens

It's an ebook.

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CorellonsDevout
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Oh, wow, haha, my bad. I read that one, but I totally spaced that it was by him ^^; the writing style seemed different too, but not in a bad way.

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Eli the Tanner
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Any word on Rich's return to Candlekeep yet? I know a few of you sent him messages.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Eli the Tanner

Any word on Rich's return to Candlekeep yet? I know a few of you sent him messages.

Nothing as of yet.

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