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Dargoth
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Posted - 15 Mar 2004 :  23:25:59  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Leery as I am of giving stuff away, I guess it does no grievous harm to say that The Rage has no scenes set in Glen.
Now satisfy my curiosity, Dargoth: Out of all the locales in the Realms, what is it about Glen that prompted you to ask about it in particular?



Well

About a week ago I asked Ed (through Hidden one) about the Dragon egg trade in that little dwarven town (one of my players plays a Dwarf from that town so he would know about the trade) anyway in my question to Ed I asked him whether the trade was still going on in 1373 and how it was that Glen had not been subjected to continued attacks from the Cult of the Dragon or even a full blown dragon rage (I imagine even evil Dragons dont like having there young stoleon and sold by "Lesser species")

Anyway Eds response was "yes it is suprising but I cant talk about because it may effect realms product thats in the works"

So Im assuming hes talking about your Year of the Dragon Trilogy

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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 16 Mar 2004 :  21:19:19  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dargoth: If Ed was indeed referring to my trilogy, it was probably simply because he knows that I'm messing around with dragons here, there, and everywhere across the Realms, so Tiamat only knows where I might strike before I'm through. It wasn't because I've put out the word that I have specific plans for Glen.
Although now that you've called my attention to it, it is an interesting locale, and Book Three isn't entirely plotted yet. Hm, I wonder if WotC would let me Tilverton-ize the place...
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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Mar 2004 :  21:59:46  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Dargoth: If Ed was indeed referring to my trilogy, it was probably simply because he knows that I'm messing around with dragons here, there, and everywhere across the Realms, so Tiamat only knows where I might strike before I'm through. It wasn't because I've put out the word that I have specific plans for Glen.
Although now that you've called my attention to it, it is an interesting locale, and Book Three isn't entirely plotted yet. Hm, I wonder if WotC would let me Tilverton-ize the place...



Careful Rich you'll end up with a Reputation like Troy "Death Star" Denning

“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”

Emperor Sigismund

"Its good to be the King!"

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 16 Mar 2004 :  22:14:44  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage  Send Shadowlord an AOL message Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hehe, good one. Troy Denning, "Destroyer of Worlds"!

No offense meant, just harmless fun.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 17 Mar 2004 :  00:26:26  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Early on, when the WotC folks and I were discussing the trilogy, I proposed rebuilding Tilverton, then blowing it up a second time, just to really puzzle and annoy people. Alas, cooler heads prevailed.
My other great unused idea for the trilogy related to the titles of the individual novels. WotC came up with the idea that each title would be a variation on: The A-Four-Letter-Noun-Beginning-with-the-Letter-R. (To make the covers look nifty in a uniform kind of way.) Then I had to generate a list of acceptable four-letter R nouns, a task greatly complicated by the fact that I needed to avoid words used previously in the titles of D&D novels. That let out The Rune, The Ruby, and a bunch of other possibilities. After much thought (and a certain amount of frustration), I proposed: The Rash. I figured we could have a skin disease figure prominently in the plot, and have fantasy's first sword-and-sorcery dermatologist be one of the heroes. Sadly, this idea too was rejected.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 17 Mar 2004 :  04:13:25  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Early on, when the WotC folks and I were discussing the trilogy, I proposed rebuilding Tilverton, then blowing it up a second time, just to really puzzle and annoy people. Alas, cooler heads prevailed.



How did Mr. Athans and others take that idea? A really quick staff would have paused for dramatic effect and said, "No, but what about the same idea only make it Evereska?"
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 17 Mar 2004 :  04:16:31  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They laughed.
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Prince Forge of Avalon
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 :  19:27:28  Show Profile  Visit Prince Forge of Avalon's Homepage Send Prince Forge of Avalon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Rich,Richard, Mr Byers, (what do you prefer?)

It seems I'm reading alot of your books lately, Dissolution, Black Bouquet. I have to say I've really enjoyed them, and the characters from Black Bouquet REALLY came alive for me. I loved how Aeron used his brain, what a slick guy, he has to be my favorite rogue! I want to read more about him! Sefris what a nasty lady, ok thers NO WAY you can call her a lady!
Anyway you get the idea, I'm really looking forward to The Rage, I'll be getting that ASAP. So thanks, and here's a fanboy wanting to see an enraged Nexus hehe,any idea what you'll be working on after your Rogue Dragons trilogy?

PFoA
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 :  21:23:13  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Prince, thanks very much for the kind words. I appreciate it.
I'd definitely like to write more aobut Aeron, but there are no plans at this time. It all depends on whether WotC's interested in seeing more of him.
Which sort of leads in to your next question. I've got no idea what I'll be writing after I wrap up The Year of Rogue Dragons. I'll be optmisitc and say that I imagine WotC and I will get together on another FR project. It's not inconceivable that White Wolf will offer me something, also, or that I'll get a chance to do something in somebody else's shared world. If none of that comes through, well, I have ideas for non-franchise books, and I guess it'll be time to get cracking on those proposals.
And, I prefer Richard.
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Prince Forge of Avalon
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 23 Mar 2004 :  05:29:10  Show Profile  Visit Prince Forge of Avalon's Homepage Send Prince Forge of Avalon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Richard,
Thanks for responding, I'm sure with your skill and ability you will be working again with WOTC on some more FR books, I think they'd be stupid not to! I think The Rage will be very popular with FR fans etc!

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I'm curious as to how you see Aeron, in your mind.
How did you come up with the idea for his personality etc. Where do you see Aeron going after the end of Black Bouquet and do you see this event as having changed his character or reinforcing the way he is?
Thanks alot

PFoA/Joe
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 23 Mar 2004 :  17:27:00  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Prince, it's sort of tricky to say or even remember how you came up with a particular character's personality (at least I find it so), but I'll try.
With Aeron, I knew I wanted a character who would be both a sympathetic protagonist and a credible criminal, so I had to give him traits that balanced those two things out. He has virtues. He's brave, loves his father and friends, and is averse to unnecessary bloodshed. He also has the flaws that result in his criminality. He's somewhat greedy, a lazy slacker when it comes to honest work, and has a moral blindspot where larceny is involved.
I also knew I wanted him to seem like a formidable guy, but not a superman. So he has talents like disguise and knife-fighting, but he's definitely not brillinatly good at everything, or even everything rogue-ish. He's illiterate, and when it's time to crack the magic coffer, he tries to hand the job off to a specialist. His fighting skills are inferior to those of the two major villains.
Once I had the basic parameters, I just sort of discovered everything else about him as I went. I recall that early on I made the choice that he wouldn't have much intellectual curiosity about magic and stuff like that. I've noticed that I tend to write heroes who have a lot of intellectual curiosity, so going the other direction this time out was a way to make Aeron different.
I do think he grows in the course of the story, but I actaully tried to underplay that somewhat. I wanted subtle changes instead of the big, obvious transformation you get in a lot of novels. I just had the feeling that would work better in this particular story.
As far as where he goes from here, well, I haven't thought about it much. I'll figure it out if I get to do a sequel. One thing I can tell you is, the way I see his personality, even though, at the end of Black Bouquet, he has no more money worries, that won't be enough to keep him out of trouble.
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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 :  21:39:42  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Richard Lee Byers,

I obtained The Rage today. I have a question for you regarding the cover. The FR logo, title, etc. all are a bit off-centered. Deliberate I take it to emphasize things are going to be shaking up in the Realms with this series? Or do you have no idea what I'm talking about?
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
1776 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  02:16:53  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sirius: I know exactly what you're talking about, and my interpretation of the off-kilter-ness is the same as yours: this is supposed to suggest the threat of cataclysm and devastation. But like you, I'm just assuming. I only found out how the book was going to look when I actually saw a copy. Nobody at WotC--no editor, art director, or what have you--conferred with me about the gimmick. Which, I've found, is the way things usually go, unless you're a consistently bestselling big kahuna kind of writer.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the book.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  02:41:42  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you and I'm sure I will. Opinions vary on the cover. I showed it to two other Realms fans and they both think that WOTC needs to hire a better printer. I hope it's our theory and not a printer mistake. In fact, if it is the printer, I wish them to quietly fix it and just tell me that it was all planned from the get go.

Edited by - SiriusBlack on 28 Mar 2004 02:42:29
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  11:35:25  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eek, I dont like the sound of that with the cover. Does it look like it was done deliberatly?

On that note, I hope that the cover of Lady of Poison doesnt get published that way...hopefully someone just scanned it in at an angle

Lord Rad

"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
1776 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  13:58:43  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Rad: It obviously is deliberate, not a scanning error. Different elements are canted at different angles, and the gimmick is used on the title page, also.
If it makes it any more palatable to you, the actual illustration is presented normally. It's only words and logos that appear on the diagonal.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  17:21:58  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Rad: It obviously is deliberate, not a scanning error.



Agreed. Sorry to panic you Rad, but I hadn't looked inside the book when I last posted. The title at the bottom of each page is also misaligned. Thus, either it's a massive conspiracy by the printer or a way to make the book stand out.

I will say this, at first glance, just looking at the cover, one can get the feeling it is a printer's error. But, that might prompt someone to pick it up rather than just ignore it. Given the story's events, I like the effect.

Good read so far as well.
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  19:12:06  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks fellas! Well im not one to judge a book by its cover so it doesnt worry me at all Cant wait for this one!!!!

Still dont like the idea of the Lady of Poison cover though...thats going a bit far and I cant see a reason why they would do that. It would look much better aligned properly.

The only problem with FR trilogies lately, is......they leave a year between the release of each novel..... A YEAR! ARGGHHHHHH




Lord Rad

"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"

Edited by - Lord Rad on 28 Mar 2004 19:13:14
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  19:27:55  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rad
The only problem with FR trilogies lately, is......they leave a year between the release of each novel..... A YEAR! ARGGHHHHHH



Not this one. Book II in the series, The Rite comes out in January 2005. Perhaps Richard Lee Byers can let us know if that date is still valid. Nice timing if so since the first anthology in this series is set for December of this year.

However, the conclusion of the series doesn't come until May 2006. Is that laughter from the WOTC novel editors I hear right about now?
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 29 Mar 2004 :  03:23:23  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As far as I know, those dates are accurate.
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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  01:39:10  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage  Send Darth KTrava an AOL message Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can understand a year gap between HARDCOVER novels, but PAPERBACK?!?! That doesn't make sense as most are spaced 6 months apart that I've seen. (like the Spider Queen series)

Now I gotta go find the book.....

Evil will be dealt with swiftly as it is my duty to remove such evil from my presence.
-Rozhena, Cleric/Divine Champion of Torm
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Bruce Donohue
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  03:48:50  Show Profile  Send Bruce Donohue a Yahoo! Message Send Bruce Donohue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello Richard and fellow White Wolf writer. Well not yet for me still waiting for Philippe Boule to give me his answer on my short story. So you like that shared world too. Ah you must be a horor, manipulation, intrigues, plots within subplots then. How long does White Wolf take to respond to you generally?
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
1776 Posts

Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  03:55:16  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi, Bruce. In recent years, I've generally gotten a speedy response (say, no later than thirty days after deadline) to any material I sent Philippe at White Wolf. But then, that was all stuff that he had asked me to write. I don't know what your situation is. If you're responding to some sort of open call for submissions, it could conceivably take longer for you to hear back.
Just curious, which White Wolf universe are you working in?
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  05:20:34  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

I can understand a year gap between HARDCOVER novels, but PAPERBACK?!?! That doesn't make sense as most are spaced 6 months apart that I've seen. (like the Spider Queen series)

Now I gotta go find the book.....



Yes, but the Spider Queen series was already released in hardcover. Thus, the timing between paperback releases might be a bit faster than those works that go straight to paperback upon being newly released.

To Richard Lee Byers, thanks for confirming the release dates. Are you still working on book II?

Additionally......The Rage *Spoiler Warning* to those that continue on...

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revealed....

What made you choose Taegan's subrace? Always want to write about those types of elves? Just seemed to fit? I admit at first I was like, One of them!! I thought they were rare!!

But, he just fits, and is a very striking character. His final words to Gorstag are both humorous and clearly showing signs of frustration. Excellent job there.

You fence don't you? If so, I don't know if that helps you, but your combat scenes are very descriptive without becoming more than the story. It's very nice to encounter.

112 pages in and about to hear Kara's tale. There is no way Dorn is going to like what he hears.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
1776 Posts

Posted - 30 Mar 2004 :  14:29:33  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sirius: Glad to hear you're enjoying The Rage. (This is actually the first feedback I've gotten from anyone except my editor.)
Yes, I've been a fencer for a number of years. Epee is the weapon I'm best with, but I do some foil and sabre, too. I also took some karate training when I was younger, and I have a number of reference books on various forms of combat and martial arts. It all helps when it's time to write a fight scene.
Even though I probably won't give away anything significant, just to be safe, I'll answer your other question after a

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I chose Taegan's subrace for three reasons: It's a perfect fit for the story, both plot-wise and thematically, I think they're cool, and I hoped readers would enjoy seeing a different kind of hero. I'm under the impression that no character of his subrace has ever played a major role in one of the novels before. (Now watch somebody post here to tell me I'm wrong.)
My desire to serve up something different also influenced me when I was creating other characters, notably Dorn and Raryn, but even Pavel and Will in a subtler way.
If you like Taegan, you may want to check out my tie-in story that'll be in Dragon #320. He's the central character.
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