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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  15:09:18  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Paul- I'm a big Ervis Cale fan and am wading slowly through the Spider Queen books, I spoiled them for myself by reading that Rylld and Phaerun both kick it, and they are my favorite characters other than Kaanyr Vhok.

My question is about the Cale books- Are you going to detail the origin of the Gith in the books. The BBEBG in the books is one of the founders of the race right, some genetic precursor of the latter day githyanki, or maybe (dare I say it) gith himself. Its been a couple of months since I read the series though so am I totally off base or on target, or did you already answer this in the previous six pages I haven't read???? Thanks,



Octa,

I'm delighted you're a Cale fan. Lots more to come on that front, starting with Midnight's Mask this November and a follow up trilogy beginning next year.

I do not intend to detail the origin of the Gith. The Sojourner (Vhostym) is a creature that I've called a githvyrik, another offshoot of the gith split. In my conception, the githvyrik numbered vastly fewer than either the githzerai or the githyanki, and while those races took to a single plane and established their societies and culture, the more powerful individualists among them at the time of the split did their own thing, travelling worlds and planes (like the Sojourner), taking up residence in the underdark, etc. In fact, calling the githvyrik a race is somewhat of a misnomer. I regard each of them as unique -- powerful and very old spellcasters, yes; derived from the same genetic stock as the other gith, yes; but otherwise quite different. For all intents and purposes, Vhostym might as well be solitary and, in fact, almost all githvyrik are.

Anyway, Vhostym has a bunch of scenes in Midnight's Mask, so if you want to more about him as an individual, you'll have plenty to read.
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Do individual githvyrik worship any particular deities, or like the rest of the gith races, are they largely faithless? Perhaps they worship prominent githvyrik individuals from the past...

Since they're not largely a "race" in the classic sense, any particular unified racial worship is probably irrelevant.

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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  15:41:27  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Do individual githvyrik worship any particular deities, or like the rest of the gith races, are they largely faithless? Perhaps they worship prominent githvyrik individuals from the past...

Since they're not largely a "race" in the classic sense, any particular unified racial worship is probably irrelevant.




Sage,

Agreed. Without a shared culture and society, and numbering so few, the githvyrik would worship according to their individual proclivities and no generalization would be possible.

Vhostym, in fact, is as close to an atheist as someone whose visited FR can be. Not an atheist in the sense that he does not believe that Cyric, Bane, Torm, et al exist, but an athiest in the sense that he does not believe them to be divine beings.
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  16:00:40  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paul I am interested in your thoughts concerning the ending of Cale's first trilogy,and now a second trilogy about him.I believe that I read in a blog that the second trilogy is going to be an RSE.Correct me if I am wrong please concerning that matter.Do you think that Cale has reached that magnitude?He seems to be very popular among our little world here at Candlekeep.How do you feel about the direction that you are taking him?How do you feel about writing an RSE.Whether the change is good or bad for The Realms?Any thoughts or musing?????

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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  16:20:42  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Paul I am interested in your thoughts concerning the ending of Cale's first trilogy,and now a second trilogy about him.I believe that I read in a blog that the second trilogy is going to be an RSE.Correct me if I am wrong please concerning that matter.Do you think that Cale has reached that magnitude?He seems to be very popular among our little world here at Candlekeep.How do you feel about the direction that you are taking him?How do you feel about writing an RSE.Whether the change is good or bad for The Realms?Any thoughts or musing?????



Ved,

The next trilogy will feature an RSE, so you're right on with that. As for magnitude, I don't really know. I don't think of it as an issue of magnitude, so much as an issue of a good fit with the story I'll be telling. And yes, I think the change will be great for the Realms (and I can say absolutely nothing else about it; seriously).

I expect this to be an interesting situation. I'm fairly certain (but not entirely certain) that most previous RSE series have featured new characters, rather than pre-established ones so I'll be curious to see reader response when the RSE features established players as protags.

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khorne
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  21:21:09  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did Skullport get destroyed or did the skulls manage to save the city?

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DDH_101
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Posted - 05 May 2005 :  23:00:52  Show Profile  Visit DDH_101's Homepage  Click to see DDH_101's MSN Messenger address Send DDH_101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Did Skullport get destroyed or did the skulls manage to save the city?



Hmm... that question wasn't actually answered. The last thing that happened in Dawn of Night was the enclave collapsing, and Cale and his friends were teleporting out of there while being chased by the Skulls.

"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Do individual githvyrik worship any particular deities, or like the rest of the gith races, are they largely faithless? Perhaps they worship prominent githvyrik individuals from the past...

Since they're not largely a "race" in the classic sense, any particular unified racial worship is probably irrelevant.




Sage,

Agreed. Without a shared culture and society, and numbering so few, the githvyrik would worship according to their individual proclivities and no generalization would be possible.

Vhostym, in fact, is as close to an atheist as someone whose visited FR can be. Not an atheist in the sense that he does not believe that Cyric, Bane, Torm, et al exist, but an athiest in the sense that he does not believe them to be divine beings.

Ah, but through reflection, perhaps they pay some homage to Gith. What do you think?

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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 06 May 2005 :  13:56:07  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101

quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Did Skullport get destroyed or did the skulls manage to save the city?



Hmm... that question wasn't actually answered. The last thing that happened in Dawn of Night was the enclave collapsing, and Cale and his friends were teleporting out of there while being chased by the Skulls.



DDH and Khorne,

This question will be answered in Midnight's Mask.

Paul
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Octa
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Posted - 09 May 2005 :  15:33:25  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paul- Thanks for the Answers, great plotline by the way, and I'm looking forward to the next book. RSE huh, well the first revelation so far is that Mask might have some control over the shadow weave....
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Crust
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Posted - 16 May 2005 :  17:28:19  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage  Send Crust an AOL message Send Crust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mr. Kemp,

I just finished Ressurection. I loved it.

Thanks for the info on the githvyrik. Very interesting.

I'm excited to get my hands on Midnight's Mask.

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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 16 May 2005 :  17:59:55  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Crust

Mr. Kemp,

I just finished Ressurection. I loved it.

Thanks for the info on the githvyrik. Very interesting.

I'm excited to get my hands on Midnight's Mask.



Crust,

Please always call me "Paul."

I'm very pleased that you enjoyed the novel. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Midnight's Mask will be here soon. I'm eager for it to hit shelves, too.

Paul
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Ethriel
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Posted - 16 May 2005 :  21:00:34  Show Profile  Visit Ethriel's Homepage  Send Ethriel an AOL message Send Ethriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paul, how would Vhostym rank among his own race? Would you consider him the mightiest of all of them?
And what one word what he use to classify himself, if Azriim is precise, Dolgan brutal, Cale relentless and Vraggen arrogant? 'Perfect?' ]
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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 17 May 2005 :  13:42:16  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ethriel

Paul, how would Vhostym rank among his own race? Would you consider him the mightiest of all of them?
And what one word what he use to classify himself, if Azriim is precise, Dolgan brutal, Cale relentless and Vraggen arrogant? 'Perfect?' ]



"Ambitious," as Midnight's Mask will demonstrate.

Paul
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Dargoth
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Posted - 17 May 2005 :  22:58:55  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Paul

Does Kezef the Chaos hound appear in your latest Cale novel?

CoR says Kezef has been going around eating prominent followers and Clerics of Mask in an atempt to draw the god out.

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The Sage
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Does CoR mention when this started Dargoth?

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Iliphar1
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  12:04:04  Show Profile  Visit Iliphar1's Homepage Send Iliphar1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Paul,

first of all, thanks for the Cale trilogy. When I started reading the first two books, both times I simply couldn't stop reading, until the night was over, and in university I had serious withdrawl symptoms for not beeing able to continue reading! Great work!

I have on question about Cale's appearance in "Crimson Gold". Since Cale is your character, maybe you could help me:

what was Cale doing in Thay? I doubt, he was talking a walk and ended up in Thay

Was that before the events of twilight falling?

And most important: Can we expect a book of Cale in Thay?


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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  15:01:52  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dargoth,

Kezef does not appear in Midnight's Mask. I haven't yet looked through Champions of Ruin, but I will now. That would make for an interesting encounter, though. I wonder if Riven's love of dogs would continue after meeting Kezef?

Iliphar,

Thank you. I'm pleased as can be that you've enjoyed the Cale stories. I'm blanking on the "Cale in Thay" thing, though. Cale has never been in Thay. I haven't looked at Crimson Gold in a long time, but are you certain that the scene in which Cale appears wasn't a Tazi-Cale flashback scene?
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 18 May 2005 :  16:56:16  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp

Dargoth,

Kezef does not appear in Midnight's Mask. I haven't yet looked through Champions of Ruin, but I will now. That would make for an interesting encounter, though. I wonder if Riven's love of dogs would continue after meeting Kezef?






I loved that scene with Riven in Skullport, it was the perfect show of his compassionate side and immediately reminded me of the dogs he kept in his room back in Dawn of Night. I think Cale et al were all surprised of Riven's actions in that scene as much as the reader was

I'm gagging for Midnight's Mask, it can't arrive quick enough. To date, this trilogy is riding alongside Thomas M Reid's Scions of Arabbar trilogy as my all time favorite FR series! Excellent work!


quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp

Iliphar,

Thank you. I'm pleased as can be that you've enjoyed the Cale stories. I'm blanking on the "Cale in Thay" thing, though. Cale has never been in Thay. I haven't looked at Crimson Gold in a long time, but are you certain that the scene in which Cale appears wasn't a Tazi-Cale flashback scene?



You're right Paul. I'm pretty sure that Cale didn't end up in Thay in The Crimson Gold. I believe there is a little flashback of Tazi and Cale from what you wrote in Shadows Witness but that's all.

Lord Rad

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Octa
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Ok one thing that was hinted at and shocking with the new realms cosmology is that when they find the temple on the shadow plane in the first book there are many gods who do not exist on faerun represented there, which makes sense given the nature of the shadow plane, but I think this leaves the door open for some kind of RSE about the faerun's planes and their relationship to the other planes. Could Cale end up in Sigil??
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Xysma
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

To date, this trilogy is riding alongside Thomas M Reid's Scions of Arabbar trilogy as my all time favorite FR series!



I haven't read Scions of Arabbar yet, but the Erevis Cale trilogy is definitely at the top of my list. I'm dying to see what happens next!

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Sandhrune
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 :  05:33:39  Show Profile  Visit Sandhrune's Homepage  Send Sandhrune an AOL message Send Sandhrune a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just wanted to say that I loved Resurrection and thought that it ended perfectly.

Midnight's Mask cannot come out soon enough for me. I am a hugh Mask fan and I really enjoyed the first two novels.

Did I see that there is going to be a follow up trilogy?
Any details?
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SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Sandhrune
Did I see that there is going to be a follow up trilogy?
Any details?



Check out Paul Kemp's blog. I believe the March 7th entry provides some information.
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PaulSKemp
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 :  14:20:28  Show Profile  Visit PaulSKemp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sandhrune

I just wanted to say that I loved Resurrection and thought that it ended perfectly.

Midnight's Mask cannot come out soon enough for me. I am a hugh Mask fan and I really enjoyed the first two novels.

Did I see that there is going to be a follow up trilogy?
Any details?



Sandhrune,

I'm pleased you enjoyed Resurrection. As for Cale and crew, there will indeed be a follow up trilogy. Unfortunately, I can say nothing about the it other than that it feature the survivors of Midnight's Mask, some new characters, and a Realms Shaking Event. The first book will release in 2006. Not yet certain of the month.

As soon as I am able to say more (which will not be anytime soon, I fear), I will do so.

Paul
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Alisttair
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 :  17:00:13  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage  Click to see Alisttair's MSN Messenger address Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp

quote:
Originally posted by Sandhrune

I just wanted to say that I loved Resurrection and thought that it ended perfectly.

Midnight's Mask cannot come out soon enough for me. I am a hugh Mask fan and I really enjoyed the first two novels.

Did I see that there is going to be a follow up trilogy?
Any details?



Sandhrune,

I'm pleased you enjoyed Resurrection. As for Cale and crew, there will indeed be a follow up trilogy. Unfortunately, I can say nothing about the it other than that it feature the survivors of Midnight's Mask, some new characters, and a Realms Shaking Event. The first book will release in 2006. Not yet certain of the month.

As soon as I am able to say more (which will not be anytime soon, I fear), I will do so.

Paul


Paul sir,
Will this follow up trilogy be first released in hardcover? I think you and Cale deserve it after everything you have done together thus far.

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