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Markustay
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  15:26:17  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
On a couple of maps, I have noted an (oft-omitted) path that goes from The North Road (running from Maskyr's Eye to Mulmaster) to The Lis Path (actually a trail, running from Hammerdale along The Lis to Elmwood). Its even named - its called 'Maskyr's Trail' (and I know the story - at least part of it - of Maskyr). You can see this most vividly on the 2e Moonsea map.

Heres' my question - you can't ford the Lis, and there is no bridge anywhere along it (considering how wide it is in spots, and how its always changing, that would be nigh-impossible). It can't be swum; not that the current is so terrible, just the things in it are. Thus, I have come to the conclusion that there MUST be a ferry depot there, at that point. Since I would consider that a very important crossing (the ONLY crossing of an over-land trail), I would have to assume there'd at least be a few 'support structures' around such a ferry depot as well. I would also assume elves/half-elves are involved (but I am sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong).

So here's my question - is there such a place, and what would it be called?

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Edited by - Markustay on 16 Jan 2014 15:27:44
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  16:27:43  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Markustay, the place you refer to is "Lisen" (called by some "Lisenar"). No settlement, but a mutable arrangement of a few tents, on the east side of the Lisen only, where rafts are built, repaired, and loaded, replacement poles are cut, and rafts are poled through the quicksands/across the evershifting river channel, either down the Lis or more often across it but tugged a little downstream during the crossing. Unloaded rafts are usually winched (pulled on ropes, using large treetrunks as pulleys) back upriver, and secured there until needed for a return crossing, often by someone else entirely.
The horrid clouds of stinging insects, reek of the mud, and lack of ready food keeps Lisen deserted when not in use for crossings, rather than being settled by any permanent residents. Who tend to get hunted by monsters preying on anyone who lingers in the area anyway.
This all comes from Ed's notes, BTW.
love,
THO
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gamersgambit
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  18:14:47  Show Profile  Visit gamersgambit's Homepage Send gamersgambit a Private Message
Hello to one and all!

Question: We're a group of elves exploring the Forest of Amtar north of Dambrath. We come upon hints of a ruin of a mostly-buried ancient underground Elven city. Which one might it be, and what might we find there?

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Markustay
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USA
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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  19:44:35  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Thank you for the speedy response. I was hoping for more there (canonically), but I guess every crossroads can't be interesting.

Has anyone ever even attempted a bridge over the Lis, even in the distant past?

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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paladinnicolas
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  20:46:18  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
Dear THO, I would like to ask Ed if there have been any religious wars in the Realms in which followers of the same god fought over contradicting claims and beliefs, and if competing nations sided with each opposing party. Thanks!
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createvmind
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  02:28:59  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello All,

Ed in your realms, do Wish or Miracle spells ripple the weave when cast that may alert those sensitive to such theurgy? Would creation of a Ring of Wishes do the same unless created in sealed or warded location?

I was curious how you would describe the creation of a Ring of Wishes personally.

Thanks
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  17:05:45  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO,

We were talking about the Zhentarim trade route through the Stonelands in this scroll: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18798

The map in the Ruins of Zhentil Keep box set shows their caravan path going right through what appears to be the middle of the Stonelands and aside from the very narrow cavern mentioned in the above post, I was wondering how this is possible. Did they blast a path through for wagons? Can you tell us of any stops or features along the Stonelands path they take?

Thank you! :)
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe

France
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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  09:01:21  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO,
I was wandering if Ed can say anything about Milil's temple in Waterdeep called "the Temple of Good Cheer" ?
One of my PC is a bard giving lectures in New Olamn and would like to approach this temple, on which Ed still have so much to say, I'd bet.

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Seravin
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Canada
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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  14:26:01  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message
Hi - possibly stupid question and if THO and Ed are too busy perhaps a scribe can answer or direct me to a thread containing answers.

Would humans worship non-human dieties (I imagine that some would) and would that diety grant them spells? For instance, a human priest of Labelas Enoreth? Is it more common for say an elf or dwarf to worship one of the non-elven or non-dwarven gods than humans to worship non-human gods? Would an elf ever worship a dwarven or halfling god or vice-versa? (I'm looking at introducing a dwarven cleric of Ilmater who is a pacifist in my campaign).
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 20 Jan 2014 :  15:55:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all.
Seravin, all sentient mortals believe in all of the gods, and actively worship any and all gods that may help or guide them in a given situation (i.e. farmers worship Chauntea, but also Talos to keep his storms away, Auril to not send frosts before crops are gathered in, etc.). Many humans "cleave to" a few gods, or even just one god, according to their personal situation or inclination. However, in your question you seem to be using "worship" in the narrower sense of "become a priest of." The answer to that is: yes. Some deities are racially-centric (Lolth, for example), but that doesn't mean they won't accept the dedicated service of individuals of other races, AND grant them spells.
So all of the possibilities you ask about are possible. They'll just be relatively rare. And as for "more common," that's hard to say, because no one stands back to take any overall surveys of such things, but humans TEND to be more versatile/try anything than any of the other races except halflings, so it's probably more common for humans to venerate a non-human deity.
(I've drawn the roots of this reply from notes I've made while playing with Ed as a DM.)
love,
THO
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Seravin
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Canada
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  03:15:51  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message
Thanks so much Lady Herald! I thought that was the answer but I was unable to think of an elven or dwarven priest of one of the main human deities (and certainly not a human priest of an elven or dwarven deities). You and Ed stay warm this week, the cold is back here in Toronto!
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unseenmage
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  06:41:45  Show Profile Send unseenmage a Private Message
Greetings all, I have need to know where between Waterdeep and Rashemi a merchant minded player character could/would be able to find information about Fey Crossroads without meddling Wizards or Druids stealing his discoveries.

The character is a son of a Masked Lord of Waterdeep and is finding his fortune in the world. He's discovered a Crossroads related magic item and needs information about ow to work it, thus the library idea.



PS. How would one find the answers to the questions that weren't gotten to last year?

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  07:07:33  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage  Click to see hashimashadoo's MSN Messenger address Send hashimashadoo a Private Message
The area between Waterdeep and Rashemen could hardly be bigger...You might want to narrow it down some.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  12:04:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by unseenmage

PS. How would one find the answers to the questions that weren't gotten to last year?



One could wait. Some of us have questions in Ed's queue that go back years.

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  14:58:28  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by unseenmage

PS. How would one find the answers to the questions that weren't gotten to last year?



One could wait. Some of us have questions in Ed's queue that go back years.

Or simply search through the existing archives for any forgotten replies. [See the link in my signature.]

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unseenmage
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  20:33:00  Show Profile Send unseenmage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo

The area between Waterdeep and Rashemen could hardly be bigger...You might want to narrow it down some.



I was not sure if there would be many libraries at all.
For narrowing, perhaps just what libraries are closest to each. Especially since the player will likely teleport the majority of the distance of the overland travel.

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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by unseenmage

PS. How would one find the answers to the questions that weren't gotten to last year?



One could wait. Some of us have questions in Ed's queue that go back years.

Or simply search through the existing archives for any forgotten replies. [See the link in my signature.]



Thank you, I simply did not know how to go about it.

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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2014 :  20:41:50  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message
Go to Google.com type in site:candlekeep.com [insert search word here, such as drow, Tethyamar, etc]. It's how I search my topics on the site. So it'd look like this when typed out:

site:candlekeep.com Stonelands

If I'm looking for something from Ed specifically, it'd look like this:

site:candlekeep.com Stonelands Ed Greenwood

Hope it helps!
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Jan 2014 :  02:05:21  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
I found this query for Ed floating in the ether from newly-granted scribe, Robert:-
quote:
Ed mentioned in an old Dragon magazine about how he would love to one day write a book about heraldry & contracts & such for the Realms.
Well, Power of Faerun came out and I was 99 % pleased.
Now, for the 1% question...
Ed, what would Patents of Nobility actually look like for the Realms (say, either Waterdeep or Cormyr)? What would they consist of?

Thank you in advance (& I know how busy you are),
Robert

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Jan 2014 :  20:01:44  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all!
Robert, for the wording of a Patent of Nobility, we'll have to wait for Ed, but I can say this much, from playing in the Realms with Ed as DM: they are single sheets of polished electrum alloy (other metals have been used, but these days it's a non-rusting alloy, and that's usually electrum, so thin silvery-hued, treated so it has a blue sheen), stamped with individual letters to spell out a grant, which confirms "X and all the heirs of his/her body" (or whatever the specific wording/conditions of the title are), the specific titles, in the name of the granting monarch or Open Lord, who appends their [stamped] seal or personal badge, and then a herald stamps THEIR personal badge [only if this is all worked out ahead of time will the patent also have the blazon, if any, approved by the Heralds]. Written personal copies are also given to all persons receiving titles by the patent, and a copy of the patent is filed by courtiers serving the grantor, and quite separately by the herald, with the High Heralds.
Everything else must come from Ed...
love,
THO
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Hawkfeather
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Brazil
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Posted - 22 Jan 2014 :  21:46:41  Show Profile  Visit Hawkfeather's Homepage Send Hawkfeather a Private Message
Hello, Ed and THO!

In several cities and nations across the Realms, imprisonment is a common sentence to lawbreakers. I was wondering if the condemnation varies upon the longevity of the convict's race. The issue is: a 30 year sentence is a very long time for a human, but for a elf or dwarf it means little due both races's long lifespan. There are any country/city/realm that the criminal lifespan have an impact on his sentence? How does the clergy of Tyr handle this issue?

Thanks!

Edited by - Hawkfeather on 22 Jan 2014 23:44:27
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 23 Jan 2014 :  07:45:30  Show Profile  Visit Knight of the Gate's Homepage  Send Knight of the Gate a Yahoo! Message Send Knight of the Gate a Private Message
Howdy, fellow scribes! Long time, no see! I'm starting up a new campaign, and the players have all elected to play either Mystrans or Azuthans (2 of each, and you know what THIS means; not one level of wizard, bard, or sorceror in the bunch... huh? Anyway...) and this leads to my questions for Ed and/or his lovely, be-hooded Girl Friday: First,how do varying ecclesiastial ranks betwixt two different but closely allied faiths interact? My guess would be that (with these two faiths, at least) that the various clergy would attempt to simply arrive at consensus and over time a leader would emerge, but I was curious how you would see it playing out. Second, the source materials always depict the Azuthan church as being quite distinct from that of Mystra, but I've been depicting it as more a 'sub-cult' within the Mystran church; to use a real-world example, the Azuthans would be akin to Dominicans or Franciscans, in that they are part of the larger church, but have their own rites, heirarchy and liturgy separate from the 'main' church. Azuth then becomes something akin to the 'patron saint' of spellcasters while Mystra remains the overarching object of worship (inasmuch as she IS magic).
My reasoning here is that I can easily envision a Mystran who doesn't pay much in the way of homage to Azuth, but the inverse (an Azuthan who largely ignores Mystra in his entreaties) is kind of unthinkable. Have there been/ are there still such individuals?
One last query (I promise); I see Azuthans/ Azuth as the 'masculine aspect' of magic, needing to quantify and push limits and grasp power, seeing magic as a thing external to themselves which they USE, whereas I see Mystra (and to a lesser extent Selune and Lurue) as the 'feminine principle' of magic, which seeks to nurture and grow the Art internal to themselves, and seeing themselves as PART of the Weave. Is that at all the juxtaposition you had in mind when you created these powers? Just curious (and excited, as always, by the unforseen depths remaining in the Realms after all these years!).
Thanks in advance, and a belated Happy New Year!

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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Jan 2014 :  05:47:03  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage  Click to see hashimashadoo's MSN Messenger address Send hashimashadoo a Private Message
Hello again.

In Elminster's Guide to the Forgotten Realms, the aurilian fortress known as Frostspire was said to have been carved out of ice northeast of Citadel Adbar. Eric Boyd first mentioned this castle in an article he wrote for the WotC website but said it was located northeast of Mirabar. I take it mister Boyd was mistaken?

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 :  14:07:23  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, all.
hashimashadoo, I'm afraid you're mixing up the venerable fortified abbey of Frostspire Towers (created by Ed around 1986 or so, and first mentioned in published Realms canon in PRAYERS FROM THE FAITHFUL; the Wizards website of course didn't exist back then) with the much more recently constructed (built in the 1340s DR) Frostspire (no "Towers).
Frostspire (the newer one) is carved from solid ice, and was built to be the new heart/center of the Church of Auril; Frostspire Towers (the older one) is a stone fortress functioning as a n abbey for Aurilian clergy, that "grows" additional walls and towers of ice every winter as a result of spells worked by the resident clergy.
So, no, Eric wasn't mistaken. (I don't think that amiable and supremely competent man MAKES mistakes.)
love,
THO
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 :  18:59:04  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
A recent PM to THO:

quote:
I just had a horrible thought re: the author of "Filfaeril, Bound and Willing"

Manshoon.

I was assaulted a few minutes ago by a sudden mental image of Manshoon, as Snape, pining for the Filfaeril/Lily he can't have... hating Azoun and Cormyr not because Cormyr opposes his dreams of world domination but because Azoun is everything Manshoon never was... loved, bright-faced, trustworthy, royal, strong of arm, and ludicrously successful with every other lady he meets in addition to the only one that ever mattered.

What if Manshoon originally took the Shadowsil in as an apprentice and lover because she resembled Filfaeril? And then he fell in love with her as she (being so brilliant and intuitive that she captured Elminster's heart as well) watched him and molded her mannerisms to match Manshoon's unspoken-but-clear-to-her desires? That, of course, was her downfall. If not for her love for Manshoon, she might have stayed with Elminster long enough to model herself after *his* fantasies. Does the Simbul ever get "catty" about other women in Elminster's life? :P

Bah. Azoun had all the good things in life, most particularly Filfaeril, handed to him, while Manshoon had to "work his ass off" for everything and deal with being hounded incessantly by Elminster and his bloody do-gooder Knights and Harpers. All Azoun has to deal with is a rambunctious daughter -- those uppity nobles could be silenced easily enough if Azoun weren't such a glowing paragon of (insert sounds of revulsion here). So at some point, probably shortly after the royal wedding in Suzail and the resulting drinking-til-blackout session in Zhentil Keep, Manshoon realizes that it's never going to happen, and puts pen to paper... recording and embellishing his dreams as they come to him.

Of course, he wouldn't publish it... or would he? It would certainly cause a stir. There's no reference in the book to Manshoon himself, although there might be dalliances with unnamed Zhentarim officers. The scandal could potentially rock the throne and tarnish Azoun's sparkly coat. No loyal Cormyrean would think poorly of the Queen... for one thing, most/all of the tales are probably told to transpire before she became the Queen. For another, the only reason a noble lady resorts to the sort of thing dirty books are written about is that the legitimate man/men in her life are utterly failing to satisfy her. Of course, Manshoon is probably brighter than I am, but perhaps someone else is brighter than he gave them credit for (maybe that Harper-ally-mole in Spellfire, with the name I can't remember that starts with S) and found it and made a copy of it, and then someone else found it (maybe after the first thief's demise) and printed it quietly in Hillsfar or Mistledale, and then arranged for a small crate of them to be dropped on a minor street of Suzail.

Anyway. Yea. Manshoon and Filfaeril, up in a tree... or so he wishes.


Her response:

quote:
. . . And DEAREST xaeyruudh, you win the prize!
You are right, Manshoon is the author of Filfaeril, Bound and Willing.
And this message you've sent to me is, according to Ed, "spot on" in your depiction of Manshoon.
Please, PLEASE publish it in Ed's thread, with your announcement of your win. Some scribes have been waiting a long time!!
love,
THO



Of course, this raises a truckload of additional questions but since I'm feverish I'll give everyone else first crack at them.

Edited by - xaeyruudh on 25 Jan 2014 19:15:09
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 :  19:13:04  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage  Click to see hashimashadoo's MSN Messenger address Send hashimashadoo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


So, no, Eric wasn't mistaken. (I don't think that amiable and supremely competent man MAKES mistakes.)
love,
THO



Eric did make ONE mistake back in November of 2005 for an issue of Dungeon Magazine but he pounced upon it right quick, correcting his error (which was very understandable, mistaking the tethyrian dialect of Common (Calant) for an actual tethyrian language) and making amends as soon as the point was raised. Considering his otherwise flawless nature, we can certainly forgive him for it but...everybody makes mistakes.

I for one am glad to know that it was my mistake, not his. My faith was being shaken by the thought of it.

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