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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  06:20:18  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message
@Infamous: In the novel Blackstaff, Khelben mentions that his spirit needs rest. Presumably, Mystra allows her servants a period of rest before using them for other purposes.

More directly to your question: Why wouldn't he want to die? I mean 1000+ years is a long time. Time spent watching so many friends die. Time seeing so many of your own failures. Time spent watching the same old games played with new players over and over again. Time, methinks, for a person to begin seeing things as inane.

And in all that time he hasn't wavered in his dedication to Mystra's service (well I'm sure he's wavered a bit here and there...but he stayed in the fight over all). In essence, he has worked for over 1000 years with very few days off. The man (and he is a man despite being 'first among the Chosen') is TIRED. The weight of so many years, so many lost friends, so much death, so much responsibility and so many failures are taking a toll.

I don't want El to be retired from the setting (but then again I kind of preferred when he was more mysterious to us, before we learned of the Chosen)...but I see why Ed has put forth this aspect of El's life. It.makes.him.more.real to us.

Just my two coppers. Cheers.

I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one.
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Infamous
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  14:27:31  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message

Thanks Arcanamach, that's a thoughtful response.

I guess my main question is: what is death for an archmage who is also a divine minion? All the realms where the deceased dwell are already available to him. What does he desire he does not already have? What is the siren's call? Beyond a certain point, having a physical body is not the meaning of being alive anymore for an archmage (e.g. El being ashes, and then being his great-grand-daughter).

Would death relieve him from Mystra's service? If no, what purpose would it serve? If yes, why wait for death and not simply retire with her blessings?

I'm not opposed to El dying at all. I just don't understand how DEATH could mean the same thing to a planewalker as it means to us; it feels like a mistaken perspective.
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Infamous
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  14:52:10  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
In that light, let me rephrase my question.

Dear, most admired Ed, whose insights are plentiful and whose imagination is frightful, could you kindly enlighten us about how archmages and naturally planewalking creatures view death?

I mean, we mortals see death either as a desired rest, or a deprivation from the Prime Material Plane. But archmages (and others)... They already can come and go as they please. They have already visited the planes they would end up in. Some, like Elminster, are already in direct contact with Deities. El could dwell in Mystra's home realm and just retire there without the need for death, couldn't he? Old bodies are not a problem if the magic is strong enough and new ones can be made, stolen, inhabited or possessed. If Larloch dies, what would he lose? If Larloch lives, does it even matter?

What is the psychology of death for a being who has the ability to cross the dreaded threshold (or desired line) at will? What is there to gain or to lose? What about the desire for nothingness or at least temporary oblivion, like a deep sleep?

Many thanks, Ed! -- The Infamous One



Edited by - Infamous on 14 May 2014 15:05:42
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  19:19:39  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message
I'll let Ed/THO answer you more directly but I do have an idea of what would happen with El upon his 'death' or retirement. In the Magister accessory (a MUST HAVE if you don't have it), defeated Magisters are faced with Mystra's Choice. There are many options and I would surmise that El would be given those same option (if not more).

He could become a shadowstaff which are stated to deteriorate into oblivion over time as they grow weary.

He could become a magic item/field of energy/or anything you could imagine of the intelligent or non-intelligent variety (giving him a type of oblivion).

He could be reincarnated as a magical creature with or without his memories (again a type of oblivion).

There really is no limit to the ideas of El's fate in this regard. I suspect he would merge with the Weave though. You posit an excellent question.

I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  19:31:13  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
We will, of course, have to wait for Ed's answer, but I strongly suspect that The Arcanamach is correct when he says: "I suspect he would merge with the Weave though." To me, the question is: in what manner?
Ed knows, I think.
love,
THO
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Beppe63
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Posted - 14 May 2014 :  20:36:53  Show Profile  Visit Beppe63's Homepage Send Beppe63 a Private Message
Hi all,

I do not know if it is the right place to ask this question, and if it were not I apologize and ask you to tell me where to post it, but I wanted to ask if anyone has ever created a full or partial list of the places that are described in the novels. I intend to cities, towns, temples, etc..

I always thought it would be nice to be able to integrate the descriptions of the places of Faerun present in the novels with the narration of the DM. Would like to add picturesque and almost official informations.

Bye.

Beppe63
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sleyvas
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  05:24:34  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
Ed,

I notice that you are able to write at a speed that would take 10 of me. By chance, on one of Elminster's visits, did he make multiple simulacrums of you?

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Infamous
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  21:53:26  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
@sleyvas, Ed vehemently denies he has simulacra. I have asked at least eight of him and they all give the same answer.
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Infamous
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Posted - 15 May 2014 :  21:57:51  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
About death for quasi-immortal beings:

Sometimes I just want a vacation from being myself. I love being me, mind you; but it is ą chose, because ultimately I am involved with the betterment of myself and my surroundings, and sometimes I... Just... Would love a break. Like not being me for a while.

That would be my request to Mystra. To be something / someone else for 300 years, and then suddenly to regain all my memories and powers, renewed afresh from the weirdest vacation imaginable.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 May 2014 :  15:14:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all! Sorry for the silence; I have been off on assignment (real-world job) and Ed has been busier than busy this last tenday...
I bring you Ed's response to Beppe63, re. this: "I do not know if it is the right place to ask this question, and if it were not I apologize and ask you to tell me where to post it, but I wanted to ask if anyone has ever created a full or partial list of the places that are described in the novels. I intend to cities, towns, temples, etc..
I always thought it would be nice to be able to integrate the descriptions of the places of Faerun present in the novels with the narration of the DM. Would like to add picturesque and almost official informations."
Heeeere's Ed:

That's a great idea for enhancing Realmsplay, Beppe, but I fear that nothing extensive enough exists, pulled together all in one place. There are listings (such as temples, taverns, and inns) here at Candlekeep, and the cancelled Realms "encyclopedia" project begun by TSR might have resulted in what you're envisaging, but right now, it remains to be created. (And don't look my way; I'm WAY too busy! Sorry!)

So saith Ed. Who is indeed busy. "Crazy busy" might be a better term. As usual.
love,
THO
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sleyvas
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Posted - 25 May 2014 :  20:43:44  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Markustay, I'd say...
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... that they are related magi-tech. The taps are a way of releasing a lot of Weave energy (like, yes, turning on a tap so water flows), and the anchors are magical bindings that secure the Weave to Toril, in thousands upon thousands of specific spots, tiny local nodes that tack it down, like nails securing an intricate piece of string-weaving to a board. One of the duties of El and other Chosen is to maintain Weave anchors, and in the wake of the Spellplague's destruction and great tears in the Weave and other weakenings of it (some of them deliberate, on the orders of the Most High, to make it easier to drain Weave power), this duty changes from "boring maintenance" to "crucial and thanks to Shadovar attacks, all too 'not boring' maintenance." :}
love,
THO




Hmmmm, so in theory, the weave anchors are hammering in the ley lines of Faerun.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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paladinnicolas
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 26 May 2014 :  11:19:57  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO, I am planning on DMing a new campaign set in the Forgotten Realms, and I want it to be highly political, reason why I ask the following question: In the book entitled Power of Faerūn, one of whose authors is Ed, it is mentioned that wars often take place in the Realms and that rulers resort to them to further interests or settle disputes. However, the examples provided therein and in novels are mostly related to monster aggressions or acts of mostly evil groups (Zhentarim, etc.). I wonder if there are recent-FR-era examples of wars, conflicts, or cold-war-style espionage and sabotage among city-states and realms of Faerūn between political groups none of which is monstrous or mostly evil. The only example I can recall is the one of supposed Amnian sabotage of Waterdhavian vessels trading with Maztica found in the Lands of Intrigue book. Are there more examples? Thanks!
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Beppe63
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Posted - 26 May 2014 :  16:44:19  Show Profile  Visit Beppe63's Homepage Send Beppe63 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Heeeere's Ed:
That's a great idea for enhancing Realmsplay, Beppe, but I fear that nothing extensive enough exists, pulled together all in one place. There are listings (such as temples, taverns, and inns) here at Candlekeep, and the cancelled Realms "encyclopedia" project begun by TSR might have resulted in what you're envisaging, but right now, it remains to be created. (And don't look my way; I'm WAY too busy! Sorry!)



Thanks anyway for the answer. :)

Bye.

Beppe63
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 May 2014 :  23:12:11  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
paladinnicolas, off the top of my head, from the era you cite, I can think of:
* the Luskan/Ruathym war;
* ongoing cold-war-style espionage between Amn and Waterdeep, and between Cormyr and Sembia;
* the Horde invasion (the Tuigan horde fighting west through Rashemen, etc. to Cormyr);
* dwarf vs. human spying within the Silver Marches (opposed leaders)
* the Amnian civil war, the Tethyrian civil war, and the eastern Amnian cities that left Amn to join Tethyr;
* the wars and spying and ongoing skirmishing among the various city-states of the Vilhon Reach (and the Emerald Enclave);
* the struggles for power within Marsember (in Cormyr);
* the struggles for power within Baldur's Gate, throughout the 1300s and 1400s
. . . and there are a lot more. The problem with your question is that one side in such conflicts often labels the other side as "evil," and dependin upon which POV Realms novels or lorebooks are written, many conflicts can be deemed the result of "acts of mostly evil groups."
But that list should do for starters...
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 May 2014 :  23:26:09  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
slevyas: Yes.
(In theory, the weave anchors ARE hammering in the ley lines of Faerun.) Though Ed tells me it's slightly more complicated than that, for very good future-plot-related reasons that he obviously can't share yet.
After all, we wouldn't want just ANY novice wizard monkeying with the very fabric of reality on Toril, would we?
( Would we?)
love,
THO
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Kentinal
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Posted - 27 May 2014 :  00:10:27  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


After all, we wouldn't want just ANY novice wizard monkeying with the very fabric of reality on Toril, would we?
( Would we?)
love,
THO


But that is what adds interest to the Realms.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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paladinnicolas
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Posted - 27 May 2014 :  06:03:42  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
Thanks a lot THO!
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Regcod
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Italy
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Posted - 27 May 2014 :  10:01:13  Show Profile Send Regcod a Private Message
The time for the complete update is almost close, another week and there will be the last book but, I know that Ed doesn't want to speak about product wrote by other, but as an Eilistraen follower I 'must' ask if The Herald will shed some light about the Dark Maiden and her follower... and be careful I'm an old priestess and when I wrote old I mean that I'm old almost like you and if you bring me to convert to Lolth I'll pursue you!!! ( :P )

"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet."
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sleyvas
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Posted - 27 May 2014 :  12:59:18  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
slevyas: Yes.
(In theory, the weave anchors ARE hammering in the ley lines of Faerun.) Though Ed tells me it's slightly more complicated than that, for very good future-plot-related reasons that he obviously can't share yet.
After all, we wouldn't want just ANY novice wizard monkeying with the very fabric of reality on Toril, would we?
( Would we?)
love,
THO



So, in theory, if one could rearrange the weave anchors.... they could possibly create a land similar to Rashemen or the High Forest

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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NineCoronas
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Posted - 29 May 2014 :  22:32:59  Show Profile Send NineCoronas a Private Message
Hi!

I'm roleplaying a Paladin of Mystra (I asked a long time ago if Paladin's had to be in an order or could be directed to run 'solo' by their god(esses)), and had some questions about what Paladin's do and do not do.

1) My understanding is that Paladin's are not to associate with evil characters whatsoever. What of attempts at redemption? Is Mercy not a trait befitting one?

2) Mystra is a CG goddess; does this mean that Paladin's of her order would be more... 'lenient'? Like Paladin's of Sune, perhaps?

3) The server I play on, there is a town, full of innocent NPC's and overrun and ruled by a majority of evil PC's. This is a prime example of a conflict in my mind; Does the Lawful part of Lawful Good mean she would follow their rules and laws if they are unjust or are obviously going to oppress an innocent or result in evil further down the road? Would it be unlawful to strike down a truly evil character within the confines of this town, even if they are a member of a sponsored organization?

Or does the lawful mean they follow the laws/dictates/dogma of their god/goddess, or their own personal code of honor?

4) What if you discovered an official in a mostly 'good' city is corrupt; illegal though it would be to do something about it, would a Paladin fall if they attempted to try to stamp out said corruption?

Thank you in advance for answering my questions!

-NineCoronas
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sleyvas
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Posted - 30 May 2014 :  00:18:23  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NineCoronas

Hi!

I'm roleplaying a Paladin of Mystra (I asked a long time ago if Paladin's had to be in an order or could be directed to run 'solo' by their god(esses)), and had some questions about what Paladin's do and do not do.

1) My understanding is that Paladin's are not to associate with evil characters whatsoever. What of attempts at redemption? Is Mercy not a trait befitting one?

2) Mystra is a CG goddess; does this mean that Paladin's of her order would be more... 'lenient'? Like Paladin's of Sune, perhaps?

3) The server I play on, there is a town, full of innocent NPC's and overrun and ruled by a majority of evil PC's. This is a prime example of a conflict in my mind; Does the Lawful part of Lawful Good mean she would follow their rules and laws if they are unjust or are obviously going to oppress an innocent or result in evil further down the road? Would it be unlawful to strike down a truly evil character within the confines of this town, even if they are a member of a sponsored organization?

Or does the lawful mean they follow the laws/dictates/dogma of their god/goddess, or their own personal code of honor?

4) What if you discovered an official in a mostly 'good' city is corrupt; illegal though it would be to do something about it, would a Paladin fall if they attempted to try to stamp out said corruption?

Thank you in advance for answering my questions!

-NineCoronas



Mystra was NG not CG. Important to consider, as its only one step from LG, so by the rules, she could have paladins. Sune, by the rules, cannot (her paladins are considered a special case, as she can't even have clergy that are LG).

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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NineCoronas
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Posted - 30 May 2014 :  01:45:30  Show Profile Send NineCoronas a Private Message
I believe I had their alignments confused. Oops!
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Blueblade
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Posted - 01 Jun 2014 :  03:49:07  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Regcod, I'm afraid the answer to your query is: The Herald doesn't enlighten us one way or another re. Eilstraee. Or Lolth, for that matter.
Other fish were fried (and boy, were they fried!) in its pages. (A book not to miss!)
THO and Ed, sorry for stepping in to speak for you, but I know Ed can't say anything until the book is officially out on June 3rd, and won't be able to speak on a lot of "5e Realms" specifics until months after that, so . . . I dared to step in.
BB
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 01 Jun 2014 :  03:59:01  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Much obliged, dear. My own thinking is that we'll learn more about Lolth going forward in Bob Salvatore's next Drizzt novel, and more about Eilistraee going forward somewhere else that we don't know about yet.
love,
THO
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Regcod
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Italy
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Posted - 03 Jun 2014 :  07:29:16  Show Profile Send Regcod a Private Message
@Blueblade & THO

But I already know that The Erald wouldn't shed any light now... I've just tried :P
Anyway what has wrote THO look intriguing and ... revealing? ;)

Oh, how I would like to know what Ed think about the 'departure' of Eilistraee and Vhaeraun... :P

"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet."
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