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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Apr 2014 :  15:49:59  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. And I'll be very interested to see how Ed navigates through a veritable minefield of NDAs to fashion some sort of answer for you, Kris the Grey. This is going to be tricky . . .
love,
THO
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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Apr 2014 :  16:22:37  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Markustay picturing Ed's response to K-t-G:

"I can't say much, but I will say that stuff happened, and people were definitely involved".

Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Thank you for that quick response (and everything else) as well. Twisted Rune you say? Hmmmmmm.....

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Apr 2014 :  17:14:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And now this, from Ed:

The original Realms has always been a crossroads (that DRAGON 37 article on gates was no accident), with gates hidden here, there, and everywhere, and upper-PC-level play always getting caught up in the power groups that try to control gates and work from world to world, usually behind the scenes.
It was the "teenage mothers from heck"/James Egbert real-world problems of the day that caused that aspect of the Realms to be downplayed almost out of existence in the published Realms.
Rest assured that in the "home" Realms campaign, shadowy power groups like the Twisted Rune and its ilk are major background PC foes - - just maddeningly hard for them to come to grips with. :}


So saith Ed. Who's obviously got Net access right now and enough time to peek at e-mails...
love,
THO



As a follow-up... Does that mean groups from behind Realmspace were using portals to control things in the Realms? Is there more info there, that can be shared?

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Strongheart
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Posted - 03 Apr 2014 :  17:55:59  Show Profile Send Strongheart a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO,

I am a huge fan. I've loved Paladins ever since I had my original Strongheart D & D figure and his appearances in the D & D cartoon. When first introduced to the Forgotten Realms I quickly fell in love with Waterdeep because of its majesty, diversity, and the endless adventures that something so massive, cosmopolitan, and magical could provide for. I think I loved it most of all because of all places in the Realms a place like this found itself governed at least openly by a Paladin. I loved the idea of a place that would be simmering with plots and intrigue, magic and mayhem, would have the influence of an Arthurian like figure providing the people and powers both internal to the city and external powers as well with the image of a lawful, just, pragmatic leader that would provide the stability for a place like this to both thrive and be stable in the wild North.

I think Piergeiron and his bodyguard Madeiron are my two favorite characters in the realms. Piergeiron's background is slightly alluded to as the son of a famous dragon slaying paladin and who tries to live up to that example. I've enjoyed his appearances in the novels Ed has penned. I have some questions about the two of them.

Is the story of his deceased wife chronicled anywhere? What kind of relationship does he have with his daughter? What is the overall view of his fellow Lords toward him? Are they relationships of respect and camaraderie or are their really deep affectionate friendships between he and any of the fellow Lords? Would Madeiron account as his best friend? Is Madeiron an uncle figure to Aleena? How do he, Madeiron, and Texter see their responsibilities and roles as Paladins and their mission beyond their duties to the city of Waterdeep? How do they interact with church of Tyr? What attracted Madeiron to becoming a paladin and how did he come to be Piergeron's friend and bodyguard? What is the relationship between Madeiron and Texter? Is Madeiron respected or friends with any of the Lords? How is he viewed by the people of the city? Is he a point of spectacle or fear because of his size or are people just use to it? Did Madeiron have much of a life story before meeting Piergeron or was he young when they met? Is their anything unusual about his parentage that accounts for his size? Is he the tallest man in the Realms? Finally what ultimately happened to these men?

I am sorry if it's two many questions. I wish for a book just on Piergeiron and Madeiron and their friendship, adventures, and happenings as Open Lord and Champion.

Thanks.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Apr 2014 :  21:42:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, and well met, Strongheart.
Off your question has gone to Ed, but let me begin to answer you, with the ones I do know something about...

Is the story of his deceased wife chronicled anywhere?
THO: Not yet.

Would Madeiron account as his best friend?
THO: Yes.

Is Madeiron an uncle figure to Aleena?
THO: Yes, but as the years passed they became more "equals and trusted friends."

How do he, Madeiron, and Texter see their responsibilities and roles as Paladins and their mission beyond their duties to the city of Waterdeep?
THO: Not a direct answer, but you've read what Elaine Cunningham wrote about Texter in her novels, yes?

Is he the tallest man in the Realms?
THO: No.

Finally what ultimately happened to these men?
THO: I suspect THIS is going to be NDA, but we'll see...

Ed is off to Ad Astra this weekend and may not see your questions until early next week, but I suspect he'll be happy to answer them, as Piergeiron and "the Sunderstone" were characters he hoped would be more prominent in the published Realms.
love,
THO
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Apr 2014 :  04:41:12  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And now this, from Ed:

The original Realms has always been a crossroads (that DRAGON 37 article on gates was no accident), with gates hidden here, there, and everywhere, and upper-PC-level play always getting caught up in the power groups that try to control gates and work from world to world, usually behind the scenes.
Sort of a curious wondering on my part, not sure whether Ed can or would like to answer it [because it's likely more fun for an answer to this query to remain vague], but... Just how many of these portals and gates would you, Ed, say has the Larloch-stamp-of-approval, so to speak?

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 04 Apr 2014 :  07:08:26  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi AGAIN, all.
George, Ed tells me there's actually a super-secret (and of course NDA) file, dating from BC times (Before [[personal]] Computers), that details exactly how to "Realmsify" CM8. He'll have to hunt for it, to rephrase it so he can share without blowing up any NDAs, but yes, he can confirm that the two mentions of Ulthorn refer to one and the same wizard.
More as soon as he can manage it.
love,
THO



I guessed as much. Tell Ed he can wrap a copy of the file in brown paper and slip it to me at GEN-CON!

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Apr 2014 :  23:50:48  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Ed is just back home from Ad Astra, and the photos are beginning to flood out onto Facebook. Ed tells me one of his panels with Steven Erikson was recorded, as was a brief interview he did for Geek Inked magazine, and he had a great time and may soon recover.
It seems that the KOBOLD GUIDE TO MAGIC has just come out! Ed has some great company in this one, including Realms luminaries like Jeff Grubb and lots of gaming veterans, such as Wolfgang Baur (the cover lists the long and juicy roster).
Check it out at . . .

Kobold Press:

http://www.koboldquarterly.com/kqstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=222


Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193678128X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=193678128X&linkCode=as2&tag=themonkeyki04-20


Paizo: http://paizo.com/products/btpy95f1?Kobold-Guide-to-Magic


DriveThruRPG:

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/128048/KOBOLD-Guide-to-Magic

This one is a doozy, and Ed tells me there'll be more products out from Kobold Press that he's had a hand in, soon....
love to all,
THO
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 08 Apr 2014 :  07:29:24  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
That looks pretty awesome. I shall have to look into acquiring it.


An unrelated query, from the gray box. At the end of "The Beast Cults" paragraph on page 16 of the Cyclopedia: "...and the Dragon Cult among those evil mages beyond Thar."

Where beyond Thar? The Tortured Land, or the Glacier? (Vaasa didn't exist in Ed's Realms right?)

And is this referring to the original Cult of the Dragon, or another dragon cult which is more beast cult and probably less political organization?

Edited by - xaeyruudh on 08 Apr 2014 07:31:24
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore

Denmark
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Posted - 09 Apr 2014 :  18:14:32  Show Profile Send Nicolai Withander a Private Message
Hello Ed and THO...

I have been wondering for some about something about the Srinshee. When it comes to sheer knowledge of the art and the understanding of magic Larloch seems to be the guy that is referred to as Mr. Know it All. When it comes to knowledge of the art, her in-depth perception, her understanding what can be said about hers? I have always thought that she was more or less the most knowledgeable mage of the realms and possible all of Toril. Even when considering Larloch, Ioulaum, Halaster, the terraseer and other über mages.

So how much does she know? Any comment on her skills, knowledge, understanding would be much appreciated.

I’m aware that many other scribes might be able to answer this question extensively, but I would like some comments from the source if possible.
Oh yeah and thanks so much for providing us all with a fantastic playground. We are forever in your debt.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 09 Apr 2014 :  18:18:26  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.

xaeyruudh, I bring you this response, from Ed:

The passage you cite ("...and the Dragon Cult among those evil mages beyond Thar.") does indeed refer to a dragon cult that is NOT the Cult of the Dragon, but rather a relatively short-lived [some 70 years or so, starting around 1306 DR] way in which a handful of dragons, through the service of about a dozen evil wizards who gained quite a good lifestyle thereby, ruled over the flind of Mount Gaethluntar. The red dragons laired in various lofty caverns of the mountain (and all had personal "bolthole" refuge-lairs in the mountain range to the south and east), and sought to control certain rich mines and so amass great wealth that they could use (acting through the wizards) to manipulate various Sembian families to carry out their plans, which increasingly hinged on curbing the rise of Zhentarim power north of the Moonsea.


So saith Ed. Who may in time reveal more of this dragon cult...
love,
THO
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 09 Apr 2014 :  19:05:35  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. Who may in time reveal more of this dragon cult...
love,
THO



Please! That's an awesome bit of lore right there.

In the meantime, do we know any of those dragons or wizards (or the Sembian families) already, from other lore?
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2014 :  02:20:01  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
For the Irongard adventure in Dungeon #18, Ed described "an extremely tough, durable form of obsidian enspelled long ago in the now-vanished Northern realm of Netheril."

Questions:
1. Was this altered/augmented substance given a name?
2. Is normal obsidian called obsidian by most folks in Faerun, or does it have a different name?

Also in Irongard, the PCs might find a chest containing a live stirge resting under the effects of a Phezult's sleep of ages.

Questions:
1. Was Iyarim a member of the Naturalists?
2. Was he from Netheril?
3. Was he a contemporary of Phezult?

Thank you, always!
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Demzer
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Posted - 14 Apr 2014 :  10:10:55  Show Profile Send Demzer a Private Message
Gracious Lady and Revered Master,
Between the Harpers dedication to the cause of Good and the philosophy of preservation and circulation of magic in all it's forms of Mystra and her Chosens, have there ever been clashes or incidents regarding the ultimate fate of destructive spells, dangerous artifacts and evil spellcasters/magical creatures?
To give an example: when the Harpers beat a scheming lich and get to its lair, what happens to the "Magic Rod of World Domination" the monster had devised? And what to its collection of wands and scrolls of spells too hideous to be ever used by any Harper mage? Do the Harpers destroy it all? Do they seal it all away? Or do the Chosens step up and take care of those kind of things?
Any anecdote you feel free to share?

Thanks!
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2014 :  17:06:11  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
So much awesome in Ommurk's Sly Disaster! 1. It's genius as is. 2. I can make "the Maersaerath Mask" either a red herring or a hook/diversion for my Okothian plot; with lizardfolk and naga on the unexpected guest list it falls smoothly into place. Thankya.
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Eltheron
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Posted - 16 Apr 2014 :  20:35:27  Show Profile Send Eltheron a Private Message
Here's an odd question related to the most recent Sundering novel.

My question is about the god Helm. In the book, a mysterious goat seems to be related to Helm. I'm sure questions about that specific goat are NDA off-limits, but I'm wondering more generally about whether or not Helm had any lore/history associations with goats or other animals. As the Norse god Odin is affiliated with ravens and Thor has a riding goat, is Helm associated with any animals? Any stories you could relate?

If it's not NDA, can you tell us anything specific about that particular goat? Some have suggested it was Helm's avatar or held Helm's essence while he was dead - much like Mystra inhabited a bear while she was "dead" for those years. Given that energy didn't seem to fly out of the goat with Helm's rebirth, I'm inclined to say that it wasn't his avatar and didn't hold his essence, but I'm guessing. Any thoughts that can be shared on this?

It also occurred to me that (in the Realms), one might be called "goat-headed" - in terms of vigilance or singularity of purpose - just as we say "bull headed" in the real world, but I'm just speculating on that also. Goats are notoriously stubborn.


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TBeholder
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Posted - 16 Apr 2014 :  21:02:27  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh

For the Irongard adventure in Dungeon #18, Ed described "an extremely tough, durable form of obsidian enspelled long ago in the now-vanished Northern realm of Netheril."

Questions:
1. Was this altered/augmented substance given a name?
- Was it a variant of Glassteel or if not, what were the differences?
- Did various successors of their magical tradition learn this useful trick? Descendants of Netheril (like Halruaa and Nimbral), possessors of runaway knowledge (like with Ioun stones), independents reverse-engineering Netherese trinkets (Sshamath and surely many others)?..

quote:
2. Is normal obsidian called obsidian by most folks in Faerun, or does it have a different name?
...and how many variations of the question "do they talk English in Realms, or is it a translation convention?" were already asked?

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Blueblade
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Posted - 19 Apr 2014 :  04:38:16  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,
Just wanted to say: Ed's short story, "Awakening The Deep Magic," in the front of the Kobold Press DEEP MAGIC was a nice, fun read. Thank you!
(Geez, you've been a busy guy, Ed. Don't you ever sleep?)
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Clegane
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Posted - 20 Apr 2014 :  20:11:06  Show Profile Send Clegane a Private Message
Have any of Ed's original gaming group published or authored any novels or gaming material?
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Blueblade
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  02:25:36  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Victor Selby (who played Jelde Asturien/Semoor Wolftooth and later Torm) collaborated with Ed on a monster in The DRAGON, "The Rhaumbusun." I seem to recall (from what Ed said at a GenCon seminar) that it was Victor's monster, and Ed wrote it up in 2nd Ed rules format. I don't have my DRAGON collection handy, but it was fairly early in the mag's run (somewhere between the 40s and 80s in issue numbers).
Ed and Victor had separate Divine Right (as in: the TSR fantasy board game) articles in DRAGON 34, which had a Divine Right theme.

Also, Andrew Dewar (who played Doust Sulwood and later Rathan Thentraver) had at least one article, on a diviner NPC called The Oracle in DRAGON 53.

There are probably more gaming publications and certainly more fiction and poetry. For some years in the early 1980s, Ed's group published their own gaming-and-personal zine, THE CAMPAIGN HACK, and it had well over a hundred issues.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  04:38:01  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Victor Selby (who played Jelde Asturien/Semoor Wolftooth and later Torm) collaborated with Ed on a monster in The DRAGON, "The Rhaumbusun." I seem to recall (from what Ed said at a GenCon seminar) that it was Victor's monster, and Ed wrote it up in 2nd Ed rules format. I don't have my DRAGON collection handy, but it was fairly early in the mag's run (somewhere between the 40s and 80s in issue numbers).


Per The DragonDex, it's issue 52.

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Clegane
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  09:28:50  Show Profile Send Clegane a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Victor Selby (who played Jelde Asturien/Semoor Wolftooth and later Torm) collaborated with Ed on a monster in The DRAGON, "The Rhaumbusun." I seem to recall (from what Ed said at a GenCon seminar) that it was Victor's monster, and Ed wrote it up in 2nd Ed rules format. I don't have my DRAGON collection handy, but it was fairly early in the mag's run (somewhere between the 40s and 80s in issue numbers).
Ed and Victor had separate Divine Right (as in: the TSR fantasy board game) articles in DRAGON 34, which had a Divine Right theme.

Also, Andrew Dewar (who played Doust Sulwood and later Rathan Thentraver) had at least one article, on a diviner NPC called The Oracle in DRAGON 53.

There are probably more gaming publications and certainly more fiction and poetry. For some years in the early 1980s, Ed's group published their own gaming-and-personal zine, THE CAMPAIGN HACK, and it had well over a hundred issues.
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Clegane
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  16:04:35  Show Profile Send Clegane a Private Message
Is there any information on where Ren o' the Blades base of operation was when he lived in Waterdeep? Thanks.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  16:37:37  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
Victor also had some magic items that were published IIRC in Dragon #91. They were featured in a collection of items article called "Treasure Trove". Dragon #91 remains one of the best FR content issues published.

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Blueblade
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Posted - 21 Apr 2014 :  18:41:35  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Ah! Entirely forgot about those! Getting old . . .
Thanks, Mister Krashos! (And keep your great Realmslore coming!)
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