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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 27 Sep 2013 :  15:51:08  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Now that 13th Age is well and truly published in both hardcover and PDF form, I was wondering if anyone is using it or planning to use it to run the Realms?

If so, how are you planning to handle Icons? Will they be deities? Groups or factions? Various chosen?

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I had heard of 13th Age, and tried a demo of it at PAX Prime a month or so ago. I thought the Icons were an interesting idea, and the Realms is immediately where my mind went in trying to process that mechanic. While I won't be buying or playing 13A, as a mental exercise I actually thought about it and figured I would use a mix of "power players" to fill in that list.

The question I asked myself is "who are the 13 major powers in the Realms that a PC might be connected to?" The answers I considered boiled down to a mix of some cities/nations (Waterdeep, Cormyr, Amn, Silvereymoon, etc) and some organizations (Harpers, Zhents, Red Wizards, etc). I considered some power individuals (El, Manshoon, others), but it didn't feel right to me that a PC starting out would have an personal connection with someone like that. I also didn't consider specific deities, as thats what clerics are for, but might consider some of the major faiths, like the Church of Torm or Chauntea or Lathander - churches that permeate society and could be interacted with on a sliding scale as your level rises. The fun thing is they don't all have to be "good-aligned" options, and a mix of generally good but also neutral and evil parties is encouraged.

Of course, depending on the scope of your campaign, you could limit it to a greater or lesser extent. For instance, if your campaign revolves around a particular locale, say, Cormyr or Waterdeep, you could pick 13 major noble families for your Icons, that you could have positive/negative interactions with.

Just some of my thoughts on that.

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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 05 Jan 2014 :  23:18:46  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's been a few months since I last asked this question... and I'm wondering if there has been any movement on the 13th Age front among DMs at Candlekeep.


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I've heard some good things about it, but haven't given it a look myself. I probably should considering who helped write the rules and I hear that it can considered a "4E haven" for people who liked 4E and can continue that sort of playstyle (action, heroic fantasy vs. more gritty vietnam style D&D:Next is going for).

4E Realms = Great Taste, Less Filling.

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gritty vietnam style really? exaggerate much? I will give you that Next is more harsh than 4E, but that isn't exactly difficult to do.

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So far from my playtests with D&D next death is all too easy to come by, espically at low levels, and very little in the way of in-combat recovery unless you have a cleric in the party. What 4e did was provide more opportunity to regain hit points without being forced to rely on one specific class. A mage, for example, has 6 + Con modifier HP @ first level in D&D:N and just two hits from a Kobold can lay him low.

The only thing that deviates from a more gritty playstyle is that you recover all your HP during a night rest instead of 1 HP per day.

4E Realms = Great Taste, Less Filling.

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Derulbaskul
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I wish this was like Facebook where, if you start a thread, you can choose which posts to delete.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying fruitbat about Next/Previous/Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Third Edition or whatever this three-year-long waste of WotC's money is going to be called but I was hoping to maybe attract a comment or two about 13th Age about people who have actually thought or maybe even played 13th Age.

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Diffan
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Sorry for the off topic-ness.

As far as Icons are considered, from what I've heard they are a very prominent element within the game. If you can go a bit into their function I think we could come up with some ideas to incorporate them into the Realms. That being said, I've heart people talking about Icons and plugging them into an Eberron style game where they were the Dragonmarked Houses and each icon represented a different house. Depending on the scope of your Forgotten Realms game I guess it could be anything. From political intrigue involving the different noble houses of Waterdeep to religions factions to even grand organizations such as the Harpers, Zhentarim, Red Wizards, The Cult of the Dragon, the Eternal Order (paladin group), etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

So far from my playtests with D&D next death is all too easy to come by, espically at low levels, and very little in the way of in-combat recovery unless you have a cleric in the party. What 4e did was provide more opportunity to regain hit points without being forced to rely on one specific class. A mage, for example, has 6 + Con modifier HP @ first level in D&D:N and just two hits from a Kobold can lay him low.

The only thing that deviates from a more gritty playstyle is that you recover all your HP during a night rest instead of 1 HP per day.



2ed 1d4 +/- con.... One hit and boom dead

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quote:
Originally posted by Portella

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

So far from my playtests with D&D next death is all too easy to come by, espically at low levels, and very little in the way of in-combat recovery unless you have a cleric in the party. What 4e did was provide more opportunity to regain hit points without being forced to rely on one specific class. A mage, for example, has 6 + Con modifier HP @ first level in D&D:N and just two hits from a Kobold can lay him low.

The only thing that deviates from a more gritty playstyle is that you recover all your HP during a night rest instead of 1 HP per day.



2ed 1d4 +/- con.... One hit and boom dead



You've illustrated on of the many reasons why I haven't played pre-3e D&D in over 15 years.

4E Realms = Great Taste, Less Filling.

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Dark Wizard
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From my understanding (I'm very slowly working my way through the book), the Icons (sort of) replace the traditional D&D alignment system with influential NPCs. The 13th Age Icons are by and large all singular individuals (with the exception of The Three, if I recall correctly).

I'm afraid I'm not much help in this regard as I haven't given much thought to a Forgotten Realms game using 13th Age, aside from thinking it would be an interesting game. I can point to another example of the Icon system applied to a setting other than the 13th Age default.

The Midgard setting from Kobold Press received full write ups for 10 Icons, with suggestions for three more, rounding out the expected number. For Midgard, KP did use a few more groups as Icons, though most remain individuals. Here's a link of the final web article: http://www.koboldpress.com/k/front-page16689.php

In summary they are:

- Baba Yaga: The infamous crone witch of Slavic folklore is active in the world of Midgard. Her influence is felt across the lands, but her presence is not often made immediately apparent (probably somewhere on the level of an archfey).

- The Ghoul Emperor: Who rules a subterranean nation of undead, intelligent or otherwise. Somewhat of a hidden superpower (like the Drow of the Realms would be, if they were united).

- The Glittering King: The decadent sorcerous-warrior (pirate) king of a kingdom founded and operated on slavery and oppression. With his fleet enhanced by demons and spirits bound into figureheads, he has the run of the Ruby Sea (a small sub-sea of the setting's inner sea equivalent) and often roams far in search of slaves.

- Oracle of Kammae: Oracular ruler of the city-state of Kammae, who with the blessing of her goddess (Hecate) bound the sea god Nethus with manacles procured from Baba Yaga. She uses Nethus to empower her city-state in rivalry with the other polities comprising the Seven Cities.

- The Queen of Night and Magic: The leader of the Shadowfey and fey queen of the Shadow Realm. She is everything beautiful and subtle, tempestuous and deadly about the darkness. Interestingly she is also listed as a deity for the setting. She likely fits in the nebulous area between god and archfey, though Midgard is purposely vague about these distinctions.

- The King of Bears: A lycanthrope ruler in the Northlands embodying the wild unspoken ways of the harsh north, fair and likeable but has a habit of settling things with fighting and trial by combat.

- Exarch Vermes II: Leader of the Ninemage Council presiding over the last Magocracy, Vermes is perhaps one of the most powerful mortal arcanists in the world (if he is indeed mortal still). He has been active since the Great Mage War that laid waste to the entire western flank of the continent by titanic otherworldly horrors. Though he is a practitioner of dark magic, along with other paths, he is one of the relatively benign figures of the world.

- The Free City Council: The leaders of the Free City of Zobeck since they overthrew the reign of the diabolical House Stross (and their shadowfey patrons). A relatively progressive if factious bunch.

- The Dragon Sultana: When the great draconic masters of the Dragon Empire united to forge their nation (at the expense of many other surrounding kingdoms), they decided to give the mundane task of running the day-to-day affairs to a dragon-blooded human (because they couldn't trust each other to the job, plus, why bother). With the backing of the dragons, the Sultan leads one of the most potent, energetic, and expansionist empires in the world.

- First Duke-Admiral Cadua: A minotaur who climbed his way from outcast to wise and canny leader of one of the premier city-states in the Seven Cities (this is unusual for a human-centric city). He leads his nation's considerable naval and mercantile might in rivalry with the other cities and against the Dragon Empire.

- The Master of Demon Mountain: An exile (or refugee) from the Great Mage Wars, the demon-blooded Master is an archmage steeped in dark pacts. Though he never leaves his mountain enclave, he holds court with the entire spectrum of dark entities and sundry rulers. He has also fathered a small army worth of tiefling children who assist and represent him; however, some have splintered off seeking their own fortune. His reach is great despite his isolation.

- The Beloved Imperatrix: The ruler of the Grand Duchy of Dornig, situated over the last remnant of overt elven influence after their retreat (and thus is one of the few full-blooded elves in the setting and probably the oldest amongst those few who remain). She has watched over her domain for centuries and is growing old. Despite signs of senility, she is still astute in matters of importance, to the chagrin of those who would wish otherwise.

- The Illuminated Brotherhood: A dwarven fraternity that safeguards their trade secrets and counts kings amongst their members. Though as a secret society, is that all they're up to, and do their own people not privy to their inner workings trust them.

From these additional examples, it's more of a mixed bag than the core 13th Age Icons. We have demigod level beings (perhaps even a deity), archfey, an archmage, mostly rulers, a city council, and a secret society. The Realms is a bit harder to define by just 13 individuals or groups, at least ones with the reach of an Icon.

A little over a year ago, this topic came up and Arivia gave a very detailed reply to jump start any discussion on Icons for the Realms: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17106

Reading these various threads does have me thinking more on the topic...

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Dark Wizard
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Indeed, continuing thoughts on Realms Icons.

Using the 3E era Realms I would short list the following as Icons of the Realms with the intent of treating them as "universal" setting-wide Icons, rather than more regional Icons. Overall I tried to avoid actual deities (as both 13th Age and Midgard have avoided) or most of the traditional Chosen, given their unusual roles in the setting.

There are a multitude of rulers, archmages, mega-liches, and clergy leaders to choose from. With some archetypes lacking an equivalent in the Realms, I choose a best fit group or figure with explanation. I held the obvious 'Icon-ability' of Realms figures or groups above their suitability as a direct match to an existing 13th Age Icons (as the Midgard Icons played loose with the direct matching). Also, I gave an attempt to spread the Icon allotment out amongst the different alignments.

The Lords of Waterdeep: Few cities are as indicative of the Realms as the setting's preeminent city and a hallmark of Waterdeep is its council of masked rulers. The city is a setting unto itself, but even then, the city's reach of trade is long and its influence relatively widespread. Plus the Lords have a board game themed around them. The Lords of Waterdeep also stand in for the machinations of the Khelben, Laeral, and the Moonstars.

King Azoun IV (or later the Steel Regent Alusair): After the events of the the Tuigan Horde, Azoun had expended and reacquired a considerable amount of political capital and fame. He is the leader of one of the most stable longstanding kingdoms in the Realms, and is a central figureheads for law and order, but also good. After his death, Alusair is a capable successor for the role.

Queen Amlaruil: The archetypal Elf Queen. Though she is aloof and isolated in Evermeet, she has agents promoting the elven agenda throughout the Realms. She is technically/nominally the ruler of all the elves. She is also the chosen of the Seldarine, making her something of a proxy or demigod, right at the boundary between mortal and deity.

The Black Network: As opposed to Manshoon or Fzoul since leadership is shared, split, or exchanged between them at various times. The one constant through the different renditions of the Realms is the Zhentarim itself in one form or another.

The Princes of Shade: Though we could easily single out Telamont Thanthul. Love them or hate them, there's no denying the Shades are striving to be a major power in the setting (with the capability to accomplish that goal) and the princes are suitable iconic faces for the Shadovar.

Sammaster: He IS the Cult of the Dragon and through the cult, he is everywhere. Cult leaders have the proper cult of personality for Iconhood. Plus he holds great personal power and finds a way to return every time he's destroyed. He's been a mainstay villain of the setting since the beginning.

Szass Tam: The Red Wizards are a logical choice, but they're still an unwieldy and disparate lot. Tam, on the other hand, is the most powerful Zulkir and supposed true ruler of Thay and thus the de facto leader of the Red Wizards (whether the other Zulkirs realize or admit it). Stately and surprisingly cordial, he is also the only overt lich to rule a powerful nation. There are liches more powerful than Tam, such as Larloch, Aumvor, and Ioulaum, but they are withdrawn and unknown to most of the world. Others like Shoon VII and the Twisted Rune prefer working from the shadows or have still yet to make their presence known to the wider world.

The Magister: Ideally Azuth is the Archmage Icon role, but we're drawing the line between icons and deities. The various chosen could work, some better than others, but their actual role in the setting is controversial. The next logical choice is the office of the Magister, sort of the poor man's Chosen. The Magister has been sort of ignored in all the hubbub revolving around the monolithic Chosen, which is good for gaming flexibility, plus it's an official title with rules of succession rather than the more freewheeling Chosen. In this Icon role, the Magister would be responsible for promoting and protecting magic, possibly to the exclusion to traditional 'goodly' notions. We can substitute in the Blackstaff here, but his role is more limited than the Magister's general focus on promoting magic, even if he is a more manipulative and interventionist figure.

Tchazzar: Hand waving this one a bit. There are many powerful dragons in the Realms, but few with a noticeable influence beyond a small local region. While that holds true for Tchazzar, he is one of the most historically active dragons in the setting and one with actual skin in the game amongst mortal nations. In this Icon role, Tchazzar would take on something of a more active draconic and nation-building agenda. Doesn't matter that he's dead through much of the 3E era. Magic can fix that. He also doesn't need to be the absolute ruler of Chessenta.

The High Harpers: Few groups have their meddlesome hands in the affairs and secrets of the world like the Harpers. This is a good compromise between the Harper semi-secret organization as a whole and the few Chosen who take up the inordinate amount of spotlight within said secret society. If one likes, the remaining Chosen (El, Dove, and Storm) can be rotated out (not a new concept seeing as Khelben, Laeral and Alustriel departed) and replaced with new members, or the non-Chosen members can be emphasized. Pre-schism, the Chosen are mostly accounted for here.

The Emerald Enclave: Also another hand waving bit. There are localized druid orders throughout the Realms and the Emerald Enclave is one such sect, but they're probably the most powerful. Their influence is also spreading beyond their traditional turf as they've enforced their presence in the Realm of the Purple Staff along the Dragon Coast and much of the Vilhon Reach/Chondalwood area.

The Demon Lord: Here we'll go with Eltab, being one of the better established Realms-specific demon lords with a long history in the east between the time of the Nar Demonbinders and his activities in Thay and beyond. His presence in the Citadel of Conjurers revitalizes the Narfell as an ever active threat to neighboring kingdoms of which there are many (Impiltur, Rasheman, perhaps Damara, Narfell itself, even Thay and the Endless Waste/Raumviran/Yaimunahar).

We could go with Malkizid, but he seems more concerned with elven affairs (likewise Wendonai). Many of the other elder evils mentioned in Champions of Ruin are not quite as coherent as Eltab (some are closer to forces of nature than sentient antagonists). Alternatively we could exchange Eltab with a version of Errtu if we're looking for someone with roots in the North. Another alternative is a return of the Trio Nefarious (but elf focused again).

The High Lady: Alustriel is not only the leader of the Silver Marches, she holds sway over the complex alliance necessary to keep such a confederation together. She also maintains a network of consorts, lovers, relatives, friends, children, and apprentices. She can also stand in for the interests of the Chosen and the Seven Sisters, giving those concepts a focal point rather than having them seem to meddle overmuch across the entire setting.

***

The above makes 13 Icons. Here's my rough break down of where they fit on the Heroic/Ambiguous/Villainous spectrum:

Heroic: Usually the Lords of Waterdeep, King Azoun IV, Queen Amlaruil, the High Lady; possibly the Magister, and the High Harpers

Ambiguous: Usually the Magister, the High Harpers, the Emerald Enclave; possibly the Lords of Waterdeep, Queen Amlaruil, and Szass Tam

Villainous: Usually the Black Network, the Princes of Shade, Sammaster, Szass Tam, Tchazzar, the Demon Lord; possibly the Emerald Enclave

***

The list is not comprehensive, but attempts to serve as a quick snapshot or summary of what the Realms has to offer in terms of power groups and movers-and-shakers (without letting deities and Chosen dominate the list).

There are some major holes in my list:

- There is no Dwarf King icon equivalent, but that sort of holds true for Midgard (and they have Dwarves up the wazoo), so they resorted to a dwarven secret society.

- There is no Orc Lord icon (who takes on a more ambiguous role), but Obould or Sythilis/Sothilis don't quite have enough far-reaching influence.

- The lack of a good CN ambiguous Icon (or generally more neutral Icons), which the Simbul is suited for as mentioned below.

- There is a Northern bias as most of the Icons have their power base north of the Sea of Fallen Stars.

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The following few can work in the Icon role, but I feel are a bit more limited for the various position.

The Blackstaff: Easy to slot into several Icons roles, but I covered above why I would select others over him/her.

The Witch-Queen: The Simbul has a reputation, the power to back it up along with the resources of a nation, but is restrained by the interests of the very nation she protects. She is somewhat less influential than Alustriel, in my opinion, even if I think she's a more interesting character than her sister.

The Sunmaster: Daelegoth Orndeir is basically a cult leader as fanatical as Sammaster after casting the Eternal Sun over Elversult, just with less dracolichdom and murder (maybe not by much, depending on who's on the receiving end).

The Lord Who Watches: The Hidden Lord Gargauth represents the diabolical influence in the setting (replacing Asmodeus' role as given in the 4E Realms). This move magnifies his current status in the 3E Realms. As a demipower and former archdevil, he fits perfectly in that middle ground. However, we already have a LE Icon in the Black Network and their close association with Bane.

The outline given by Arivia in the other Candlekeep thread linked in my previous post provides good options (and more of them), some better tailored to games than my outline here attempting broad setting icons.

One idea would be to take at least the malleable 13th Icon role (occupied by the Prince of Shadows in 13th Age, who doesn't make it onto the d12 Icon die) and make it swappable with any of a number of alternative Icons to cater a game to a specific region. In this way, it's not the 13th Icon himself who is unknown, but the position of the 13th Icon that is fluid.

Edited by - Dark Wizard on 08 Jan 2014 06:16:46
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Never played 13th Age, but after reading Dark Wizard's posts I'm certainly open to giving it a try if the chance comes up.

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Thanks for an on-topic reply, Dark Wizard, and for your great ideas.

The Icons give me the most problems in terms of trying to work out how they fit into the whole scheme of things. It's easy enough to simply make certain NPCs and organisations into Icons - and I love your write-ups, Dark Wizard :) - but I still wonder about how I would make them work in play. I am probably overthinking it and, no doubt, I will read someone's actual play write-up soon and it will all click. It just hasn't clicked yet.

I really love the concept of backgrounds and this is where the well-detailed Realms is a perfect match for 13th Age. It makes skills so much more interesting and flavoursome - much better both from a crunch and fluff perspective than simply choosing from a list of skills (and a list that is typically limited by class).

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There are some discussions or articles on how Icons come into effect on the Pelgrane site and forums, but you may have to dig back a little to the playtest days.

The backgrounds as skills is a versatile concept. It's interesting to see it applied now to a D&D-like game since Jonathan Tweet implemented (and probably pioneered) versions of the freeform skills concept way back in the early 90s for games like Over the Edge. I wonder why some form of it wasn't originally used for 3E seeing as Tweet was one of the trio of lead designers for the system. Perhaps the directive was to hew closer to the prior D&D editions.
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Thanks. I've been catching up on those discussions.

As I was thinking about a 13th Age version of the Realms, I came across this quote by Paul S Kemp:

quote:
The gods know that Lord Ao will rewrite the Tablets of Fate at or near the end of The Sundering, and many of Faerunís powerful know that as well, or speculate that it might be so, or least know that something is afoot. They do not, however, know what that might mean for them. As a result, lots of forces are put in motion during this time: armies, Chosen of the Gods, powerful clerics and archmages, all of them trying to figure out what is going on and how best they can weather it and/or turn it to their advantage, etc.


The Age of Upheaval, and particularly the end of the Age of Upheaval, seems perfect for an 13th Age-based Forgotten Realms campaign. We've seen in the two published Sundering adventures that there are new Chosen and it feels like the deities are jockeying for position so that when the Tablets of Fate are rewritten they will receive a boost to their power and status. In such a context, too, the deities themselves are rather suitable as Icons and each PC would need to have at least one positive or conflicted Icon relationship with a deity and at least one negative Icon relationship with a deity. There wouldn't be much need for a plot: start them in Waterdeep and see what the Icon dice reveal!

And you could even call the campaign "Age of Upheaval" in a nod both to the FR lore and the 13th Age game.

Hmmm....

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ScrivenerofDoom (I believe he visits the Wotc FR forums) already has a jump start on an "Age of Upheaval" campaign posted on his blog.

Part 1 Intro: http://my-realms.blogspot.com/2014/01/age-of-upheaval-1-introduction-fr-13th.html

Part 2 Icons: http://my-realms.blogspot.com/2014/01/age-of-upheaval-2-icons-of-realms-fr.html

Not so coincidentally, he used the same quote from Paul Kemp as a premise starter. A good blurb is a good blurb.

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Just had to pop in and say great work to Dark Wizard. Marvelous run-down and ideas on the Icons and the whys and wherefores of them. As little as I've worked through 13th Age, this all sounds great to me!

Steven

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Thanks, Steven. If you get a chance to play or GM in the Realms using 13th Age, please drop in to tell us how you adapted the rules to the setting. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard(snip) Not so coincidentally, he used the same quote from Paul Kemp as a premise starter. A good blurb is a good blurb.



No, that's not a coincidence as this thread largely spawned those posts. :)

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Posted - 16 Jan 2014 :  05:53:06  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard

Thanks, Steven. If you get a chance to play or GM in the Realms using 13th Age, please drop in to tell us how you adapted the rules to the setting. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts.



I would love to read Steven's input as well.

Frankly, if Ed wasn't so busy I would love to ask him how he feels about it. I can imagine it's the sort of game that would suit how I think he and his group runs their games.

Who knows? Maybe Ed, THO, et al will drop 2E for 13th Age? :)

Cheers
D

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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  16:24:37  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've posted a brief and very rough outline of a campaign arc for 13th Age.

And I stress that it really is an outline.

http://my-realms.blogspot.com/2014/01/age-of-upheaval-3-campaign-arc-first.html

Cheers
D

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 17 Jan 2014 :  20:28:48  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard(snip) Not so coincidentally, he used the same quote from Paul Kemp as a premise starter. A good blurb is a good blurb.



No, that's not a coincidence as this thread largely spawned those posts. :)



"Oh, hi, ScrivenerOfDoom" ::jolly wave::

Didn't make the connection until now. Was sort of hoping we had more people trying FR with 13th Age and sharing their experiences and adaptations.

Either way, any discussion gets the ball rolling and you've put quite a bit of work into your blog. Very nice.

Edited by - Dark Wizard on 17 Jan 2014 20:30:01
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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  05:52:48  Show Profile Send Derulbaskul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I wanted to be Scrivener of Doom here also but the sign-up process got screwed up and I simply couldn't get it to work.

Anyway, Derulbaskul was my first BBEG. He was a 1E "prismatic lich". In order to be defeated you had to first cast the same seven spells in the correct order that would bring down a prismatic sphere. What can I say? I was 12 at the time. ;)

Cheers
D

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Markustay
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Posted - 18 Jan 2014 :  17:59:53  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right after this thread came around, I started seeing some threads popping up on other sites, and some interesting discussion. Until then I had no interest, but now I'll be looking into this system.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Dark Wizard
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  04:38:41  Show Profile Send Dark Wizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Markustay

Right after this thread came around, I started seeing some threads popping up on other sites, and some interesting discussion. Until then I had no interest, but now I'll be looking into this system.



Maybe I ask what other sites? Reason I ask is I'm trying to delve into 13th Age myself.
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