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Markustay
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Posted - 26 Sep 2013 :  14:12:09  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I had an idea for my mash-up setting, and was wondering if this has been done in any canon lore before? When I read about the Yuan-ti templates, the lore says 'human', but then I don't see that as actually being a prerequisite (this from online sources, not a sourcebook, so the veracity is what am questioning). It just says 'base creature'.

I just thought that an Elf-Yuan-ti would be pretty damn cool, and something a little different. Anyone have any information or thoughts?

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Barastir
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Posted - 26 Sep 2013 :  19:58:46  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've never thought of that, and since I always thought yuan-ti were created through a more direct manipulation, I would rule out that elves cannot survive its creation process - they can't survive torture and such, in older references. If they must be bred, however, maybe there would be a chance that elven yuan-ti were created at some point in history. My opinion, though.

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Quale
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Posted - 26 Sep 2013 :  21:26:44  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Something like a lillend, or that reptilian gith from Dark Sun? Or the aelfinn creatures from Wheel of Time.
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Ayrik
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Posted - 26 Sep 2013 :  23:15:15  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yuan-ti elves? No. Absolutely not. Unnecessary and disgusting.

Now, yuan-ti dwarves ... hmm, that bears some thought.

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Markustay
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Posted - 27 Sep 2013 :  00:29:37  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elves seem a perfect fit - thin and agile, cunning, etc... like This Pic.

Dwarves? That seems a stretch... short, stocky snakes? I could even picture gnomes or halflings before dwarves.

A Yuan-ti Illithid would be interesting.. I wonder which 'nature' would dominate? Or would that be some sort of 'unholy abomination' that both races would fear and hunt?

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Originally posted by Quale

Something like a lillend, or that reptilian gith from Dark Sun? Or the aelfinn creatures from Wheel of Time.
Interesting takes. I am not familiar with the Aelfinn - which book were they in? The only one I missed was the last one (the one NOT written by Robert Jordan). Edit: Just checked Wiki - I think I remeber that part of the story now.

I like the gith idea - you reminded me of the primitive, bird-like reptilian creatures that were presumably the precursors of the Melniboneans in the Elric/Moorcock novels.

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Edited by - Markustay on 27 Sep 2013 00:37:51
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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Posted - 27 Sep 2013 :  07:19:19  Show Profile Send Drustan Dwnhaedan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I personally prefer the idea of a Yuan-ti drow. I think that would make an incredible assassin.
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Quale
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Posted - 27 Sep 2013 :  16:45:10  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I like the gith idea - you reminded me of the primitive, bird-like reptilian creatures that were presumably the precursors of the Melniboneans in the Elric/Moorcock novels.



I don't remember any such, the doomed folk, the older ones...

here's some yuan-ti-elf pictures btw

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Fellfire
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Posted - 25 Nov 2013 :  04:12:10  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why not? I say. I'm not sure if any of the traditional clans from SK would include any, but certainly they could be created. We've got half-demon and half-dragon elves, why not half-serpent?

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Fellfire
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Posted - 25 Nov 2013 :  04:52:12  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
link: Vampiric Elven Yuan-ti?

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Edited by - Fellfire on 25 Nov 2013 04:52:43
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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Nov 2013 :  16:10:59  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had forgotten about this thread - how serendipitous! I am currently working on my Chult/Garund mash-up continent, and was looking for stuff having to do with the Yuna-ti.

Earlier I said a dwarf/yuan-ti would be weird, but it just hit me - somehwere in D&D lore there are stunted, dwarf-like lizardmen! IIRC, they may have been one of the devolved, bestial offshoots detailed in the Red Steel (Mystara) material. Anyone else recall something along these lines?

I can't picture the Sarrukh (and Nagas and yuan-ti) NOT experimenting with ALL the major races. They may be able to get around such things using half-breeds (half-orcs, half-elves, genasi, etc). So long as there is human blood in there somewhere, it should be do-able.

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Edited by - Markustay on 25 Nov 2013 16:11:26
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SirUrza
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Posted - 25 Nov 2013 :  19:29:10  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

Now, yuan-ti dwarves ... hmm, that bears some thought.



That thought of yuan-ti with beards is disturbing in so many ways.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 25 Nov 2013 :  22:49:22  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Genasi Yuan-ti. It has a certain ring to it.

Misanthorpe

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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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Posted - 27 Nov 2013 :  00:09:52  Show Profile Send Drustan Dwnhaedan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about dragonborn yuan-ti? I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was some sort of dragon/yuan-ti hybrid (I think it was mentioned in the 3.x MM3, but I could be mistaken -_-').

Edited by - Drustan Dwnhaedan on 27 Nov 2013 00:11:41
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Gyor
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Posted - 01 Jan 2014 :  00:47:31  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When the Yaun-Ti were first created there were no Elves on Faerun. They were created during the Days of Thunder, from mixing Surrak, Human, and possibly other reptiles into a new race to serve the reptilian creator race, the Surrak.

Could the Surra
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