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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2004 : 23:01:51
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1st off Cyric: is it "Cie rick" or "Ceer rick"?
i thought it was "Cie rick" but i heard it pronounced in BG2 as "Ceer rick"
2nd Baator: is it "Bay ah tor" or "bay tor"
i thought it was "Bay ah tor" but once again i heard it in BG2 by Cespenar as "bay tor"
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Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 00:45:13
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First of all, its Ceer-ick, and its also pronounced Bay-ah-tor.
Let me know if that helped. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 03:16:06
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| ok i guess i was wrong about Cyric but right about Baator. and it seems BG2 was right about Cyric but not about Baator...interesting |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 05:24:51
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If you look at the download page at the WotC site, you can find pronounciation sound files for some names and places, though it chiefly has to do with the old Planescape setting. For Realms deities, there's a fonetik -- er, phonetic  -- spelling after each entry in Faiths and Pantheons. |
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RogueAssassin
Learned Scribe
USA
207 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 19:46:45
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Is Drizzts cat's name pronounced "gwyn-hyvaar" or "gwyn-hyveer"?]
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 20:36:46
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Originally posted by RogueAssassin
Is Drizzts cat's name pronounced "gwyn-hyvaar" or "gwyn-hyveer"?]
i believe its "gwyn-hyvaar" |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Jan 2004 : 21:31:08
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| 'Guenhwyvar' is just the original non-anglicized form of 'Guinevere' and is pronounced the same, as Bob has said plenty of times. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 02:25:54
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| what r u talking about Faraer? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 02:32:56
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IT IS PRONOUNCED GWEN-IH-VERE! I believe you should listen to Faerar, for he is wise in such matters. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Crust
Learned Scribe
USA
273 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 14:10:29
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| I've always pronounced it GWEN-hwy-var, or GWEN-eh-var. GWEN-i-veer? I can't stomach that. I don't want to envision Guinevere everytime I read about Drizzt's cat. |
"That's right, hurl back views that force ye to think by name-calling - 'tis the grand old tradition, let it not down! Anything to keep from having to think, or - Mystra forfend - change thy own views!"
Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"
"Some folk in the Realms would give their lives for the chance to learn at my feet," Elminster said mildly. "Several already have."
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 22:21:35
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I side with Shadowlord here. I always thought it was a nice Celtic touch.
I think this has been discussed before, though. At the very least, there are other "pronounciation" scrolls here.
Might I suggest the scrying room be used more often? An Alaundo Foundation study has proven it to lessen the number of foot-in-mouth accidents . . . . |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 23:36:34
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| remember Bookwyrm i was not the 1 that asked the ? about Guenhwyvar |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2004 : 23:46:10
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Paraphrased from Dracandos the Spellsage
Remember, Bookwyrm, I was not the one that asked the question about Guenhwyvar.
That's okay, because I wasn't talking to you on that one. You at least had a question that hadn't been asked before, though I did think of telling you when you started this. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 01:27:55
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
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I side with Shadowlord here. I always thought it was a nice Celtic touch.
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2004 : 06:42:08
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Don't get used to it. We've still got a lot of differences, little drow.  |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 00:47:46
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here is another: mithril
is it "mith rill", "mith reel" "meeth rill", or "meeth reel" |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 01:05:16
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Don't get used to it. We've still got a lot of differences, little drow.
Little?!?! Just because you are a mithril (Hey, its Dracandos' question) dragon does not mean I will bow down to you...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 05:21:04
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It would be hard to bow "down" to someone of my size, anyway.
And mithril is spelled and pronounced differently by different people. (I think Salvatore mispelled it as mithral, right?) Don't worry about that one. But if you want to know, I personally pronounce it "mith-rill."
I'm sure there's a master pronounciation of it in Tolkein's writings someplace. He created the "silver-steel," after all. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 05:27:57
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Salvatore on 'Mithral', yes, you're right about that one Bookwyrm...
As for 'a master pronounciation of it in Tolkein's writings someplace', I believe my first edition copy of the extended Unfinished Tales included a base pronounciation guide. I'll look through it when I get home...
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 06:50:44
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| Thanks. I don't have one of those. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 14:32:41
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| Checking Appendix E of LR, Tolkien's word has stress on the first syllable, i is pronounced as in 'machine'. But quite likely the is are short in its Realms use. But it's 'mithral' in more recent sources. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2004 : 16:26:04
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What, people are mispelling "mithril" in Tolkein's books?  Wait'll my friends hear this! Finally, something that they can't blame on Peter Jackson!  |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2004 : 01:59:19
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| i believe in the LotR, it is pronounced "meeth reel" isnt it, isnt that how it was said in the movies? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2004 : 05:44:41
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| Well, Gimli pronounced it like that, but remember, they gave dwarves a Scottish-like accent (which I thought was fitting, considering certain Celtic legends . . .) and Gimli was speaking in a tone of awe. As such, it wasn't out of place. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2004 : 09:23:45
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Actually the reference in the extended Unfinished Tales is just a basic guide to pronounciations. It doesn't detail any facts about where and when the references are taken from the books. I assume that's research the reader will have to do for him/herself.
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2004 : 10:20:38
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Here's a tip for you all... pronounce it as you like coz in the end does it really matter? DOES IT REALLY?
Take for example the English language. It's just one language right? Wrong! There's heaps of people that speak the english language differently according to the country of origin. There's Aussie slang & accent, American slang & accent, British accent... well you get the picture. The same goes with names in Faerun. You might say "TO-MA-TO" and me "TO-MAE-TO" but it still means the same thing. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2004 : 17:08:59
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| i was simply interested in the correct pronounciation of words in the Realms Lina. as 2 be able 2 be more wise of the Realms |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2004 : 13:00:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Lina
Here's a tip for you all... pronounce it as you like coz in the end does it really matter? DOES IT REALLY?
Take for example the English language. It's just one language right? Wrong! There's heaps of people that speak the english language differently according to the country of origin. There's Aussie slang & accent, American slang & accent, British accent... well you get the picture. The same goes with names in Faerun. You might say "TO-MA-TO" and me "TO-MAE-TO" but it still means the same thing.
Oh, don't get me started on 'Aussie slang/accent'  . It's one of the most embarassing qualities our society here in Australia has, at least to me. It annoys me a great deal when international visitors first impression of Australia comes from a thong-wearing, bear-drinking, slang-talking 'Aussie' whose first words are "G'day mate..." ...Just what exactly does that mean...
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2004 : 14:46:46
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Originally posted by The Sage
Oh, don't get me started on 'Aussie slang/accent' . It's one of the most embarassing qualities our society here in Australia has, at least to me. It annoys me a great deal when international visitors first impression of Australia comes from a thong-wearing, bear-drinking, slang-talking 'Aussie' whose first words are "G'day mate..."...Just what exactly does that mean...
hehehehe Yeah, throw another shrimp on the bar-bee, Bruce. Surf's up! 
I seem to recall back in the old days of TSR.... not long after the Planescape setting was released, TSR produced a download of WAV files which gave the correct pronounciations....shame that we cant get one of these for FR to clear up matters such as those raised in this discussion. That said, FR products DO have pronounciation guidelines (as per standard dictionaries) for deities, locales etc. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Feb 2004 : 15:03:12
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Ah yes, I remember those WAV files, although I haven't used them recently .
As for WAV files based on Realms pronounciation...maybe the collective knowledge and can-do spirit of the scribes here at Candlekeep could work on putting our own WAV files together, dealing with our own accepted interpretations on Realms pronounciation...
What do you all think...?
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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2080 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2004 : 16:40:10
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Originally posted by The Sage
Ah yes, I remember those WAV files, although I haven't used them recently .
As for WAV files based on Realms pronounciation...maybe the collective knowledge and can-do spirit of the scribes here at Candlekeep could work on putting our own WAV files together, dealing with our own accepted interpretations on Realms pronounciation...
What do you all think...?
Sounds like a great idea to me, Sage! Try and quash that Aussie accent though |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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