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Joebing
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Posted - 30 May 2013 :  21:40:56  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone know anything about this, other what is in the library here, or is it really as rare as Amazon and eBay would lead one to believe? This is the only published Realms product I do not own pre 4th ed, in either pdf or hard copy.

I know the basis of the catacombs series, but are there NPC's? Is this canon?

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Markustay
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Posted - 30 May 2013 :  21:58:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Technically, I think it has to be canon because it bears the logo, and I've never heard it come under the 'apocryphal' heading the Double Diamond series did.

If you are asking if it was any good - I liked it. Played through it once, and it was fun. I can't recall how much 'new Realmslore' was contained therein, but it felt like I was running all over (and under) Waterdeep.

I had photocopied the last page (the one you needed to write on) just so I wouldn't destroy the book in any way. Lot of good that did me.

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Joebing
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Posted - 30 May 2013 :  22:06:21  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Technically, I think it has to be canon because it bears the logo, and I've never heard it come under the 'apocryphal' heading the Double Diamond series did.

If you are asking if it was any good - I liked it. Played through it once, and it was fun. I can't recall how much 'new Realmslore' was contained therein, but it felt like I was running all over (and under) Waterdeep.

I had photocopied the last page (the one you needed to write on) just so I wouldn't destroy the book in any way. Lot of good that did me.


Thanks Markustay. Trying to find a copy is a pain. Sorry to hear about yours.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 May 2013 :  22:36:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are references to it in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep.

I've bought it off eBay at least twice (like Markus, I lost my first copy in a fire). I don't see it on there often, but I wasn't aware it was all that rare -- just long out of print.

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Joebing
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Posted - 31 May 2013 :  01:24:55  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There are references to it in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep.

I've bought it off eBay at least twice (like Markus, I lost my first copy in a fire). I don't see it on there often, but I wasn't aware it was all that rare -- just long out of print.


It is, compared to other pre d20 books, pretty hard to find and expensive when you do. I found 2 on eBay and a few on Amazon.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 31 May 2013 :  05:22:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've not spent more than $20 on any of the copies I bought. Usually less.

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Joebing
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Posted - 31 May 2013 :  12:21:24  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've not spent more than $20 on any of the copies I bought. Usually less.


All the ones I keep finding run around $40, which is why I say expensive. I have a lot of pre-3e stuff, but I haven't spent more than $20 on any of it - Hell, I picked up a complete Waterdeep box set for $15. But this adventure...

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coach
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Posted - 05 Jun 2013 :  00:22:30  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes it was one of the last items i needed to complete set and i think i ended up just biting the bullet and forking out $27

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Joebing
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Posted - 05 Jun 2013 :  00:59:55  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coach

yes it was one of the last items i needed to complete set and i think i ended up just biting the bullet and forking out $27


Looks like I might have to as well. Have found just about every other TSR product in a pdf, including one of the trading card sets. Not this or any of the others from that series, except Gnomes-100...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Jun 2013 :  13:46:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.

Clicky!

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Joebing
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Posted - 22 Jun 2013 :  07:52:19  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.

Clicky!



Woo Hoo!
Thanks Wooly!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2013 :  12:46:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem, glad to help.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Jun 2013 :  18:26:40  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.

Clicky!



Still no bids, with less than 8 hours left. Time to step up, if you're interested in this one.

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Joebing
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  00:26:23  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.

Clicky!



Still no bids, with less than 8 hours left. Time to step up, if you're interested in this one.



:) Thanks on the heads up on that. Got it!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  01:15:53  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent, I was hoping you were the one that got it. When it was getting to the last day with no bids, I was more than a little tempted to go for it, myself!

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  03:53:46  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about it too. In the end my distaste for ebay won out. Grats Joebing!
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Joebing
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Posted - 29 Jun 2013 :  19:06:07  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wooly and xaeyruudh! Now my published (both online and hard copy) collection is complete...minus any unreleased stuff (such as the missing Green Regent mods and the Dragonspear 3e item Markustay mentions here: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17854&whichpage=1 )

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Markustay
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Posted - 29 Jun 2013 :  19:36:07  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You might be surprised at how much you are really missing, lol. I find Realmslore in the strangest places (like the Spelljammer module Greyspace).

I hear from a lot of authors that a good 25-33% of what they write for an article or sourcebook never gets used - the infamous 'cutting room floor'. I have been privy to a couple of 'full versions', and its a damn shame so much is lost over the years.

In the case of Ed-generated FR lore, that figure is probably closer to 90-95% - all sparkling gems the world may never get to enjoy.

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Joebing
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Posted - 29 Jun 2013 :  19:48:20  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

You might be surprised at how much you are really missing, lol. I find Realmslore in the strangest places (like the Spelljammer module Greyspace).

I hear from a lot of authors that a good 25-33% of what they write for an article or sourcebook never gets used - the infamous 'cutting room floor'. I have been privy to a couple of 'full versions', and its a damn shame so much is lost over the years.

In the case of Ed-generated FR lore, that figure is probably closer to 90-95% - all sparkling gems the world may never get to enjoy.



Oh I know. Cutting room floor stuff is stuff I do not count in that total. I did go through everything from Ed's early Dragon submissions on, including Spelljammer (I have a complete TSR/WotC library on my computer). You are one of the lucky ones who gets ahold of 'full versions'. Really want to get to GenCon for the Dragonspear module, but odds are its not going to happen.

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Joebing
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Posted - 03 Jul 2013 :  21:19:15  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*INSANE LAUGHING*

Forgot (and I cannot figure out how) about Living City...the actual tournament modules. Have the Living Jungle ones, but forgot about Living City until now. Well, it can't be harder than LG to find.

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I know his may be resurrecting a long dead topic, but I was wondering if anyone with a copy of this has an online scan of the perforated page (the character sheets and time record)? I've got the original book and been dying to play through it, but the perforated page is gone (inherited this from my older brother, btw). Haven't been able to find any scan of it anywhere and since that's the only thing I'm missing I was hoping to avoid having to buy the book again. Thanks for any help!
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Joebing
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Posted - 21 Oct 2014 :  23:05:41  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be able to scan this page at work late this week...PM me your email and I shall send it.

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Let's try to remember that announcing/conducting scans of copyrighted material can land this site in some pretty precarious legal-waters. So please refrain from discussing this kind of exchange publicly.

Thank you.

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Joebing
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Posted - 25 Oct 2014 :  20:02:51  Show Profile Send Joebing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Sage. My bad

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Posted - 25 Oct 2014 :  23:27:37  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I saw another copy on eBay either this morn or yesterday; I think it was $15.

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Markustay
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Posted - 25 Oct 2014 :  23:32:10  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know what just dawned on me?

It would be kinda cool if WotC (or soeone with their permission) turned this into an online thing - I think it would work even better then the original format.

You just make your choices into Hotlinks - less able to accidentally 'cheat' (see things you shouldn't) that way.

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