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LastStand
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Posted - 21 Mar 2013 :  06:57:23  Show Profile Send LastStand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LastStand

I started with DL and discovered FR shortly after, and it quickly became my fave setting. Middle-earth still occupies a special place though.

This scroll got me thinking. We each have our own favorite setting for certain reasons. What if we tried, as a community, to make a homebrew setting? Maybe a combination of all these factors we like.
Would this be allowed on Candlekeep, and would it generate interest?


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Its definitely one of my favorite settings but my absolute favorite would have to be Star Wars followed by Warhammer 40000. The Emperor Protects!
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Dennis
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Yes, it is, though a tie with Midkemia. Warhammer (Fantasy), Scadrial, the many planes of Magic: The Gathering, and the Four Corners of Civilization follow close by. But of course, as almost all things do, my "favorites" change every now and then.

Every beginning has an end.

Edited by - Dennis on 22 Mar 2013 14:21:21
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I voted yes, but my love for the setting has waxed and waned over the years. What Sage described as "first love" definitely applies for me with the Realms. The Realms is my first love, and I am still deeply devoted to it.

However, I also have other settings that I deeply enjoy. Leading among them is perhaps Westeros, followed by Warhammer Fantasy. I also want to give a major shout out to Old Man Harpell for mentioning Norrath, the world of EverQuest. I haven't played a MMO in many years since EverQuest, but so much of the lore of the setting reminded me faintly of the Realms - it has much of the same charm. (Pre-Scars of Velious at least, after that things started to go off the rails, and completely jumped off the track by the Planes of Power).
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quote:
Originally posted by Old Man Harpell

I said 'Yes', but it actually occupies equal status with Cerilia, the continent of the Birthright campaign setting. Both of these places have that 'old' feeling...magical, ancient worlds that don't feel contrived or thrown together. To me, Eberron and, yes, Greyhawk feel jumbled together. This doesn't mean I dislike them, particularly, but I would never run a game in either.

I also have a marked favor for Middle-Earth, as well as Norrath (the world of Everquest - though the latter, like the Realms, is better in it's pre-cataclysm state).

- OMH



On the Norrath thing, I second that from a campaign world sense. The original campaign world was a lot more interesting with each race having a certain starting community, etc.... As a player, I prefer EQ2 for the better graphics and the customization system. However, the customization system has gone markedly downhill in my view since they made the changes in the past 3 or 4 years where pretty much only one ability score affects things for you. It made a lot more sense before whenever for say a priest your intelligence affected spell damage, wisdom affected resistances and power, strength affected melee damage, etc... It made it so that if you wanted to have a healer that did a lot of spell and melee damage and the same class could be more of a healer, or druids wanting at least some dex since they're in leather, etc....

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Is the Forgotten Realms my favorite setting...sadly no.

Once upon a time it was; but other things came along that took me in many different directions!

I LOVE the Birthright setting...it just had the type of feel that I loved about the Old Grey Box. Character levels were not so very inflated, there was lots of room for good old adventuring, AND you could rule your own nation!

I'll always have a place for Greyhawk since it was the first world I ever played in...I'll never forget some of the adventures I had there and just the SMELL of the books. Yes, smell is important!

Mystara has a dear place for me too...the GAZ series was wonderful! I never played "Basic" D&D there though, it was always AD&D...and is where the character Dalor Nal'Raesik Darden came from.

I love Dragonlance because of the epic sweep of the first three novels that saw the emergence of the Heroes of the Lance; the tears for Sturm and Flint...that sort of thing. The novels there were more to me than the gaming setting.

So no, the Forgotten Realms is not my favorite setting...though for the past many years it has been the world I've played in the most.




See oddly, the Birthright setting NOT having high level characters was a big turn off for me. All I could think is that the PC's get high level and basically they mow down everything. There should always be those people who are just as powerful as the PC's (or more powerful). However, I will give that the Birthright campaign idea was a definite growing point. Its land of shadow grew into what everyone knows now. That they had ley lines, etc... was also of interest.

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A favorite certainly, but hardly the favorite. That's not counting the settings that lean towards the science fiction end of the speculative spectrum. Nor the settings known more for fiction than gaming (though FR is between both areas).

From TSR, hands down it's Planescape over any other setting. I also appreciate Spelljammer for it's *big* ideas.

From WotC, I find a lot to like about Eberron. They're the cheapest full-color, professional quality campaign setting hardcovers I own (both the 3E and 4E versions), so phenomenal bang for the buck.

My Golarion collection currently dwarfs my FR collection. I find the modular format of materials associated with the setting and the awesome presentation far more useful for a variety of uses in others games and other settings than most of my Realms stuff.

The current setting that's clawing up my rankings is Kobold Press's Midgard. It presents many of the same possibilities of the Realms, but avoids many of the pitfalls the Realm's publication stumbled upon. There are ways they approach similar concepts that 4E Realms really should have incorporated from the start.
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I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.



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(Sightless, that comment is followed by a winking smiley -- not sure if your browser will properly convey that my comment was made in jest. I like some elements of Eber-whatsit, but it's not my cup of tea, overall.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.

The appeal of EBERRON back when it was first introduced, I think, caught a lot of folk unprepared for the sheer amount of awesome ideas that came with it.

I don't think I would have gone so far as to declare it my favourite setting, but it very quickly earned it's place upon my "Top Ten" favourite campaign worlds.

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Thanks for saying Wooly, my screen-reader doesnít read emot-icons, or anything image related. It doesnít do flash either. I shall admit, the more I lern about FR, the more things I find I like about the setting, but what I loved most about Eberron was itís use of the of a more Free-racial character. There are for the most part, no inherently good, or evil races, with a few exceptions. The magatech feel has a kind of steam-punk feel to it, which Iím a real big fain of, and in some respects it broke away from the heavily Tolkienized influences inherent in a lot of fantasy. Now, donít get me wrong, I love Middle Earth fantasy, have listened to about every Tolkien work out there, but sometimes, I want a break from that. And just as an aside, my favorite settings, and Iíve not played many have to be Star Wars, Shadowrun, and most of all Battle-tech. This near the limit of my gaming knowledge, although recently finding Drive-threw, and there text-searchable content, will eventually change that.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.
The appeal of EBERRON back when it was first introduced, I think, caught a lot of folk unprepared for the sheer amount of awesome ideas that came with it.

I don't think I would have gone so far as to declare it my favourite setting, but it very quickly earned it's place upon my "Top Ten" favourite campaign worlds.
Agreed. One of the reasons I love Ebberon is its subtle blend of a dose of steampunk and sword and sorcery. Also, itís brought to life by some of the best authors writing for this very genre.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

Thanks for saying Wooly, my screen-reader doesnít read emot-icons, or anything image related. It doesnít do flash either. I shall admit, the more I lern about FR, the more things I find I like about the setting, but what I loved most about Eberron was itís use of the of a more Free-racial character. There are for the most part, no inherently good, or evil races, with a few exceptions. The magatech feel has a kind of steam-punk feel to it, which Iím a real big fain of, and in some respects it broke away from the heavily Tolkienized influences inherent in a lot of fantasy. Now, donít get me wrong, I love Middle Earth fantasy, have listened to about every Tolkien work out there, but sometimes, I want a break from that. And just as an aside, my favorite settings, and Iíve not played many have to be Star Wars, Shadowrun, and most of all Battle-tech. This near the limit of my gaming knowledge, although recently finding Drive-threw, and there text-searchable content, will eventually change that.



Ah, I'm glad I thought to clarify that. I wasn't sure if your screen reader would handle the smilies or not. *smiles*

Eber-whatsit had a lot of interesting features, and my love for the warforged in particular is well-known. The setting just didn't quite grab me, though.

I used to be a huge fan of BattleTech, myself, but the Jihad really killed a lot of that interest. Around the same time, I lost most of my Mech minis in a fire, and started playing Warmachine. I'll still make a point of buying new Technical Readouts, when they are printed (I've got every one printed thus far, including all the originals with the Unseen Mechs), but that's about it for me and BattleTech.

The Sage is also a BattleTech fan, but he has shown flawed taste and picked the Cappies as his preferred faction. (*winks in the direction of friend Sage*)

I find the Iron Kingdoms to be a more interesting setting than BattleTech, the game easier to play, and the Dice Gods don't hate me when I play Warmachine, the way they did when I played BattleTech. When I played BattleTech, it was frustrating common to have multiple weapons, all needing only 7 or 8 to hit, and miss with all but one of them! And though I enjoyed customizing Mechs, it is nice to know that when playing Warmachine, anything called a Defender is going to be identical to any other Defender.

I'm really looking forward to the release of Iron Kingdoms fiction.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.
The appeal of EBERRON back when it was first introduced, I think, caught a lot of folk unprepared for the sheer amount of awesome ideas that came with it.

I don't think I would have gone so far as to declare it my favourite setting, but it very quickly earned it's place upon my "Top Ten" favourite campaign worlds.
Agreed. One of the reasons I love Ebberon is its subtle blend of a dose of steampunk and sword and sorcery. Also, itís brought to life by some of the best authors writing for this very genre.



Eberron strikes me as more magitech than steampunk... For me, steam is a pretty important component of steampunk.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.
The appeal of EBERRON back when it was first introduced, I think, caught a lot of folk unprepared for the sheer amount of awesome ideas that came with it.

I don't think I would have gone so far as to declare it my favourite setting, but it very quickly earned it's place upon my "Top Ten" favourite campaign worlds.
Agreed. One of the reasons I love Ebberon is its subtle blend of a dose of steampunk and sword and sorcery. Also, itís brought to life by some of the best authors writing for this very genre.



Eberron strikes me as more magitech than steampunk... For me, steam is a pretty important component of steampunk.



Aha!....A steampunk Grognard!....I wondered when we'd being seeing the first of these

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I voted no....but its close. I enjoy The realms and Middle Earth almost the same.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

I shall probably catch some flack for this, but Eberron is currently my favorite D&D setting, but there are plenty of reasons for that.
The appeal of EBERRON back when it was first introduced, I think, caught a lot of folk unprepared for the sheer amount of awesome ideas that came with it.

I don't think I would have gone so far as to declare it my favourite setting, but it very quickly earned it's place upon my "Top Ten" favourite campaign worlds.
Agreed. One of the reasons I love Ebberon is its subtle blend of a dose of steampunk and sword and sorcery. Also, itís brought to life by some of the best authors writing for this very genre.



Eberron strikes me as more magitech than steampunk... For me, steam is a pretty important component of steampunk.



Aha!....A steampunk Grognard!....I wondered when we'd being seeing the first of these



Heh. I'm not a huge steampunk fan, but you have to admit that steam is in the name...

On a more serious note, I do regard steampunk and magitech as separate things. One uses steam to replicate modern technology, one uses magic in place of but similarly to technology. The Iron Kingdoms does both, though they are more steampunk than magitech.

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No. My favorite setting is Eberron. Afer that, I like the Young Kingdoms, then the Forgotten Realms. I'm more a fan of the books by Byers, Kemp, and Salvatore, which are why I'm here. The books.

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Eberron strikes me as more magitech than steampunk... For me, steam is a pretty important component of steampunk.



*raises index* Also, punk.

In all seriousness though, I'd agree that Eberron isn't very steampunk. It's got inspiration from it, sure, but it's a different beast.

Random pseudo-scientific observation: I have noted that the "No" option is consistently increasing for the last few days. I conjecture that is due to the fact that the people who vote "Yes" are more likely to be regular visitors here (since it's a FR fansite), and as so, have seen the poll and voted on it earlier. Based on that assumption, I predict the results to stabilise around 62% Yes around May, 1st.

FR is my favourite setting, by the way.

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the use of an anology is often desirable when trying to convey a series of complex ideas, or schema with a degree of ease, without the need of lengthy discussion. The two elements are never to be considered wholly equal.

In the case of magatech, by definition "magic is used to replace technology, usually of a pre-industral, or early industrial era. Often that normally performed by Steam Engines." (Decker, 2000).

This should explain my previous comments fully, I hope.

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I agree with your assessment, Sightless. It's just that it sparked a comment about whether Eberron should properly be called steampunk, and I just love that kind of nitpicking on terminology.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

the use of an anology is often desirable when trying to convey a series of complex ideas, or schema with a degree of ease, without the need of lengthy discussion. The two elements are never to be considered wholly equal.

In the case of magatech, by definition "magic is used to replace technology, usually of a pre-industral, or early industrial era. Often that normally performed by Steam Engines." (Decker, 2000).

This should explain my previous comments fully, I hope.



I can get where you are coming from, but I'd actually read that definition to mean that magitech is when magic replaces technology, and that the technology being replaced is steam tech. So magic in place of steam, instead of both together.

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Pssst. I'm not the only one whom the title of this thread reminds of Death Metal fans?

There are many, many interesting settings, in different sense, and thus worthy of being added to "favorite". FR wins in depth and interweaved-ness. When done by the authors who heed Ed, anyway.
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This scroll got me thinking. We each have our own favorite setting for certain reasons. What if we tried, as a community, to make a homebrew setting? Maybe a combination of all these factors we like.
Would this be allowed on Candlekeep, and would it generate interest?
Unfortunately, this was attempted many, many times. In different areas. That's how the term "lowest common denominator" acquired metaphorical meaning. Simply sewing together random parts does not lead to building anything more aesthetically pleasant than an average flesh golem - and less able to stand straight, let alone walk on its own.

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Agreed. One of the reasons I love Ebberon is its subtle blend of a dose of steampunk and sword and sorcery.
If being hit by a lightning train counts as "subtle".
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I believe that's what he meant as well, at least that's how I always understood it. Magic in place of stem. a magic train, instead of a steam powered one, etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sightless

the use of an anology is often desirable when trying to convey a series of complex ideas, or schema with a degree of ease, without the need of lengthy discussion. The two elements are never to be considered wholly equal.

In the case of magatech, by definition "magic is used to replace technology, usually of a pre-industral, or early industrial era. Often that normally performed by Steam Engines." (Decker, 2000).

This should explain my previous comments fully, I hope.



I can get where you are coming from, but I'd actually read that definition to mean that magitech is when magic replaces technology, and that the technology being replaced is steam tech. So magic in place of steam, instead of both together.


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I simply LOVE the Forgotten Realms and the way its NPCs are developed, although I prefer more humanized heroes than magical superheroes. I usually modify my Realms to make them less magic and more fit for "classic hero" types.

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