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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  18:25:50  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Hello! In Kozakura, year 1 begins with the ascension of Mori to the throne. What do they call this basis for numbering the years? (as opposed to Dalereckoning and the other various systems) ...I guess Kozakura Reckoning seems too simple (and western)...

I'm about to check out the other eastern timelines, so the same question will probably apply to the other realms/empires of the east. In a timeline whose headers include equivalent years in multiple systems, what should they be called?

Thankya!
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Wooly Rupert
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This may help...

Calendar Conversions, lifted from the The Grand History of the Realms Excerpts page on the WotC site:

quote:
Calendar Conversions

One notable feature of the timeline that the expert Faerűnian historian will notice is that we've expressed all the years in the current Dalereckoning (DR) notation. Different cultures in the Realms have used different calendars, and reconciling them has often caused sages much difficulty. See the following notes to convert DR dates to some other calendar.

Dalereckoning (DR): This human-centered calendar has become the standard way of expressing dates. Dalereckoning was established in the Year of Sunrise when men were first permitted by elves to settle in the more open regions of Cormanthor. It is also called Freeman's Reckoning.

Cormyr Reckoning (CR): This calendar starts at the founding of Cormyr by the Obarskyr Dynasty (26 DR). The use of two close but not identical calendars in the same geographic area causes historians and sages much confusion. To convert between dates you might find in other sources: DR - 25 = CR or CR + 25 = DR.

Northreckoning (NR): The calendar used throughout the city of Waterdeep, the Silver Marches, and the North. DR - 1032 = NR or NR + 1032 = DR.

Waterdeep Year (WY): Archaic Waterdeep calendar, no longer used.

Netheril Year (NY): Calendar used by the lost empire of Netheril, stemming from the Alliance of Seventon. DR + 3859 = NY or NY - 3859 = DR.

Shou Calendar: The people of Shou Lung mark the ascendancy of Nung Fu as the start of their empire's calendar. DR + 1250 = Shou Year or Shou Year - 1250 = DR.

Wa Calendar: Calendar used by the island nation of Wa in the Eastern Realms. DR + 418 = Wa Year or Wa Year - 418 = DR.

Mulhorand Calendar (MC): Ancient calendar dating from the founding of Skuld. DR + 2134 = MC or MC - 2134 = DR.

Untheric Calendar (UC): Established after the ascendancy of Gilgeam as god-king of Unther. DR + 735 = UC or UC - 735 = DR.

Aryselmalyr Calendar: Archaic calendar used by the undersea elves of Aryselmalyr at the empire's founding. DR + 11004 = AC or AC - 11004 = DR.

Timesong Calendar (TS): Calendar established at Myth Nantar and used today by most undersea inhabitants of Serôs. DR + 70 = TS or TS - 70 = TS.

Present Reckoning (PR): A newer calendar that dates the Time of Troubles as Year 0. DR - 1358 = PR or PR + 1358 = DR.


Edit: Meh, the linked-to page has been moved. Again. WotC can't leave web pages in one spot...

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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 07 Aug 2013 :  23:26:17  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Thanks Wooly! Not sure why it didn't occur to me to check the GH for calendar names. I guess if those are to be taken as the pattern for all timekeeping systems on Toril, I'll just use the name of the realm and add Calendar or Reckoning or Year, and abbreviate as convenient. Still wondering if Ed has any variants to add.

And I'll wholeheartedly agree with that at the end. I'm sure WotC's web people have shiny CS degrees (their job descriptions require them), but they had to have been absent on the days when organization, user-friendliness, and permanent addresses were outlined.
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George Krashos
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The silver fire has to be the world's best Viagra.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Given that Elminster has visited earth and has sampled some of its products, has Elminster ever sampled Viagra?



From what I've read, I don't think he needs it.

Which does raise a somewhat interesting question that I would pose to Ed... and I ask this with the most delicate of intents:-

Given Elminster's past sexual "proclivities," has he ever found that a simple desire to bed a lovely lady lass, has simply not been "enough?"

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The silver fire has to be the world's best Viagra.

-- George Krashos


Provided Mystra allows it to be so... of course!

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Markustay
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  13:59:10  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
On this same train-of-thought...

Has Elminster ever sired children on Earth?

What about other worlds?

And this, of course, has lead my mind down a very weird path... an Adventure Path, actually. I am sure Ed is aware of the PF AP Rasputin Must Die! (which sounds eerily like a certain FR title...) We know Baba Yaga is Realms canon (although not named, her hut makes a cameo in an Elaine cunningham novel), and a good chunk of PF lore (and that AP) revolve around Baba Yaga...

So... has Elminster ever 'met' Baba Yaga?

LOL... and is Rasputin their 'love child'?

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Edited by - Markustay on 08 Aug 2013 14:00:33
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  14:49:57  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

So... has Elminster ever 'met' Baba Yaga?

LOL... and is Rasputin their 'love child'?



You are a strangely brilliant person, Markus... or brilliantly strange.
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sleyvas
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  16:41:24  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

On this same train-of-thought...

Has Elminster ever sired children on Earth?

What about other worlds?

And this, of course, has lead my mind down a very weird path... an Adventure Path, actually. I am sure Ed is aware of the PF AP Rasputin Must Die! (which sounds eerily like a certain FR title...) We know Baba Yaga is Realms canon (although not named, her hut makes a cameo in an Elaine cunningham novel), and a good chunk of PF lore (and that AP) revolve around Baba Yaga...

So... has Elminster ever 'met' Baba Yaga?

LOL... and is Rasputin their 'love child'?



Baba Yaga also features in "Midgard" as well (which admittedly is PF related).

You know, I started this idea just as a lark, but the idea of Elminster fathering a child on earth is very interesting if they wanted to do a little "cross-over" event/article. Said child, if it were fathered around the time of the 1st edition release would be in their mid 20's right now. If around the time that Ed first started getting whispers from Elminster, that could be in the early 30's. I mean.... what if they were a gamer who had just started following D&D back in 2nd or 3rd edition or something?

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sleyvas
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  16:46:32  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
just thinking on what I just wrote..... next time Ed talks with El.... he might want to swab his glass and his own cheek..... maybe that's why he chose Ed in particular and the peculiar resemblance between the two...

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Kris the Grey
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Posted - 08 Aug 2013 :  20:31:34  Show Profile Send Kris the Grey a Private Message
Markustay/Sleyvas,

GET OUT OF MY HEAD! Seriously though, cross world campaigns being my specialty, I too have pondered this question...

When running a 'play yourself' you need a 'kicker' that allows regular Earth folk (gamers in particular) to survive the initial rigors of life in the Realms (as an adventurer anyway). That requires a touch of the old 'special destiny' - this is one version of such I have never used, but it certainly has occurred to me.

I'll be interested to hear what Ed has to say on this one...

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The Arcanamach
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Actually, Ed and El (as Elmara) could have a love-child together. Hey, what happens on Earth STAYS on Earth!

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Ed,
I start (as I often do) by extending a very heartfelt thank you for your tireless efforts in creating this world for us to experience.

Questions concerning hronomany and alternate timelines arose in this forum early this year. You suggested that,in the Realms, tampering with the past creates an alternate timeline.
Curiousity bursting, eyes shining bright, I ask: can you tell us of these would-be time travelers, what they tried to change, and what became of their alternate timelines? Can you tell us about a few those ‘other’ Realms that came to be?

Relatedly, I presume that deities are duplicated in each alternate timeline instead of one deity existing in each timeline simultaneously. Is that correct? Does that also extend to Ao, or does he monitor each timeline simultaneously? You mentioned the alternate timeline may be a mechanic introduced by Ao to prevent time-travel shenanigans by naughty deities, so it seems [to me] that he would be somehow outside of that effect.

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Bionic Man
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Hi, Ed! A couple questions.

1. How many prisons are in the realms? Would you be willing to discuss any of them here?
2. Are any of the prisons run by the clergy of a particular church?

Btw, I'm specifically asking about large "correctional facilities" as opposed to local dungeons.
Thanks!

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sleyvas
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Just a thought on the prison topic, you are only talking large compounds meant only to hold prisoners, correct? I only ask because every castle and town probably has a small dungeon.

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Kris the Grey
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Perhaps something akin to Demonreach in the Dresdenverse?

http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/Demonreach

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quote:
Originally posted by Bionic Man

Hi, Ed! A couple questions.

1. How many prisons are in the realms? Would you be willing to discuss any of them here?
2. Are any of the prisons run by the clergy of a particular church?

Thanks!



There are a lot of local prisons, usually a few cells in a dungeon or a garrison, mentioned in various Realms books.

There is at least one regional prison that I am aware of, that being the Cloister of St. Ramedar. It is the premier secure prison and sanatarium in Tethyr and run by monks of Ilmater. Its remote location and the 700-foot sheer cliff outside the prison cells deters successful escapes.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Kris the Grey

Perhaps something akin to Demonreach in the Dresdenverse?

http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/Demonreach



Note: Bit of a spoiler in that link, if you're not caught up on the series.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kris the Grey

Perhaps something akin to Demonreach in the Dresdenverse?

http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/Demonreach



Note: Bit of a spoiler in that link, if you're not caught up on the series.

It's probably a good thing I so far behind in my reading of the series, that I didn't even really know what to worry about with this.

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'Tis good to see there are so many HCD lovers about! Harry (and not Potter!) is my favorite modern wizard. Since I know the site is thick as thieves with his fans, I'll be more cryptic in my future references to him! Lol.

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xaeyruudh
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Hiyas! My newest query is regarding Even's Gulf, at the north end of the Easting Reach. I haven't seen it in any sources other than Karen Fonstad's Atlas and the electronic atlas. Neither of them seems to cite any specific sources for it, so I'm guessing maybe it's from the legendary original handdrawn maps?

What remains unsaid about Even's Gulf?
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quote:
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'Tis good to see there are so many HCD lovers about! Harry (and not Potter!) is my favorite modern wizard. Since I know the site is thick as thieves with his fans, I'll be more cryptic in my future references to him! Lol.



You forgot one of his middle names.

Ed, Lady Hooded One? Have either of y'all read the Dresden Files?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kris the Grey

'Tis good to see there are so many HCD lovers about! Harry (and not Potter!) is my favorite modern wizard. Since I know the site is thick as thieves with his fans, I'll be more cryptic in my future references to him! Lol.



You forgot one of his middle names.

Ed, Lady Hooded One? Have either of y'all read the Dresden Files?

Great.

Now I'm thinking about an alternate version of the Wizards' Three, that has our Old Sage of Shadowdale meeting up with both Dalamar and Harry Dresden.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kris the Grey

'Tis good to see there are so many HCD lovers about! Harry (and not Potter!) is my favorite modern wizard. Since I know the site is thick as thieves with his fans, I'll be more cryptic in my future references to him! Lol.



You forgot one of his middle names.

Ed, Lady Hooded One? Have either of y'all read the Dresden Files?

Great.

Now I'm thinking about an alternate version of the Wizards' Three, that has our Old Sage of Shadowdale meeting up with both Dalamar and Harry Dresden.



Oh, gods! Dalamar meeting Harry Dresden? That would be so much fun to read!

Bob would be all about wanting to meet the Seven Sisters, too. Hmmm, Bob and Syluné...

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Kris the Grey
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There ya go! That's my choice to add to the Wizard's Three - Harry Copperfield Blackstone Dresden (I left out the Blackstone last time as I thought it was the one name Percy didn't know, you never know when demons might be lurking on your forum, Lol).

And yes, I bet Bob would ADORE the Seven Sisters - especially Storm (not that he'd be choosy about any of them...well maybe the Simbul would remind him to much of Mab, Lol).

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