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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Aug 2013 :  05:04:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
After reading the quite intriguing "Moondark Mystery" article, I have two quick queries...

Are there any currently living elves of the Moondark family? Not necessarily any of the original bunch; I'm more interested if the family line remains or if it died out or was absorbed or renamed.

And if yes, where do the modern Moondarks live?

I'm guessing the name is no longer around, but I really like it...

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The Sage
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Greetings Ed,

I've Yet Another Realmslore Query that I would like to add to the existing stack of pre-existing queries for you...

I was just reading an article on recent new discoveries of effigy mounds in the US. Simply put, I'm wondering about effigy mounds in your Realms, and other similar geoglyphs. Do they feature in your campaigns? Can you provide a few examples? What, if any, are the myth/legends surrounding these ancient structures? And, the most important part I'm interested in learning more about... Do any of these effigy mounds play a part in strange local cultist and/or mortuary rites?

Much appreciation in advance, for both you and the Lady Hooded One.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Aug 2013 :  18:27:46  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Proper Realmslore replies will have to come from Ed, of course, but to Wooly I can say: Yes, there are still Moondarks around.

And to The Sage: yes, there are effigy mounds in the Realms. In play, we came across mounds in the eastern Sword Coast North (near the edge of Anauroch), in Tunland, and near the Spiderhaunt Wood, and heard of some south of Starmantle (i.e. up in the foothills) and outside the Great Dale, near its eastern end, as well as near Veldorn.

To xaeyruudh, I can say: Bluestone is part of Ed's Realms, but as for exact locale, that'll have to come from him.

To silverwolfer, re. this: "Eilistraee had half-orc worshippers, which would obviously not mesh well with the elven pantheon." I suspect Ed is going to give you the "It depends" answer. As in, it will differ from individual to individual, place to place, time to time, and situation to situation. Remember that ALL sentient mortals believe in ALL of the gods; only a small percentage (usually priests and paladins, or "crazies") repudiate all deities save one, or venerate all deities save one. To think of half-orcs or anyone else just worshipping Eilistraee is to not see things as they are in the Realms. But of course Ed will answer more fully and properly.

love to all,
THO

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Aug 2013 :  18:44:06  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
... And I'm back.
xaeyruudh, Ed tells me he has read that other thread, and says Markustay has the location of Bluestone correct, at that crossroads.
He also says the dotted lines are indeed roads. Ancient, elevated [as in, on embankments that rise up from the surrounding landscape, giving high-vantage views and a "lee slope" that travelers can camp on]; I don't mean they're like bridges, up on piers], stone roads from now-gone civilizations, so the current conditions (the flind inhabiting Mount Gathluntar, the glaciers where they are, the beast-men [ogres] of Thar flourishing and then dwindling again, and so on) indeed "don't fit" with these grand - - and sparsely used, but very useful for moving heavily-laden carts of crudely-smelted mined metals - - "roads to nowhere").
So there you have it.
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 02 Aug 2013 18:46:10
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 02 Aug 2013 :  21:04:36  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Cool, thank you both very much!

I'm guessing Gharreil would be among those ancient civilizations? If I'm reading the maps right, it should be at the bottom of the crevasse just east of Ahtitlak... unless it's a smaller nearby unnamed/unmarked crevasse.

(Edit: actually, that crevasse doesn't really line up right, and with the Gharreil article using the 3e mutilation of the map, I'm way out on a limb anyway.

Also, is it Gathluntar instead of Ghaethluntar?

Edited by - xaeyruudh on 02 Aug 2013 21:07:34
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 03 Aug 2013 :  02:52:52  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Heh. xaeyruudh, "Ghaethluntar" is indeed correct (Ed created and named that feature, back in 1968, I think), but its 'pet name' amongst some of his players is "Gathluntar" because a certain hapless PC much given to grand pronouncements invariably followed by stupid decisions and pratfalls, named Gathlun Ghaeltabbar, died there - - in spectacularly silly fashion.
As for Gharreil...we'll have to wait for Ed to opine.
love,
THO
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 03 Aug 2013 :  04:22:34  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Goodness gracious, that seems like a lot of G's in one post.

In any case, with a name like GG, he was destined for grand things.
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe

France
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Posted - 03 Aug 2013 :  09:29:53  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Marco Volo

Hi everybody !
Can Ed share with us some information about Amry and Telpir, two little Dragon coast settlements that we know not much about ?
No doubt he has some great things for us all about these
Merci beaucoup
MV

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I think they got smooshed in 4e. IIRC correctly, at least one of them was referred to as 'haunted'.


Hey ! Thanks Markustay, now you tease me : I'd love to hear from Ed about this haunted place and the other when he got time
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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Aug 2013 :  14:15:11  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
WOW! My BAD.

I went looking for where I saw that, and realized I was thinking of the wrong two settlements. I was thinking of Pros and Ilipur.

On the 4e Cormyr map (still one of my favorites), you see the two settlements as Pros and "Haunted Ilipur" (thus what I remembered... albeit about the wrong locales). Amry and Telpir are too far east to appear on that map.

Sorry for the confusion.

And I would like to add my desire for information on ALL those places.

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Kris the Grey
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Posted - 03 Aug 2013 :  18:03:47  Show Profile Send Kris the Grey a Private Message
THO,

Thanks again for all the tasty information from Ed!

Did you happen to see my 'proper accent' inquiries lurking a few pages back? :)

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Therise
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Posted - 04 Aug 2013 :  18:08:03  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message
Question about Cormyr nobles for Ed/THO: are there any nobles/families that staunchly support the crown and Obarskyrs but -don't- do so in a public way? It occurs to me that some nobles may not want to be so open in their support, for various political or business reasons, but secretly (and constantly) act on things out of a deep loyalty and support of the crown and the Obarskyrs.

Such nobles would keep their loyalty unspoken, perhaps even from the Obarskyrs themselves, but engage in pro-crown activities (e.g. sly political deals through agents, secret funding of different groups, making supportive investments) because they strengthen the Realm and the position of the Obarskyrs.

Any nobles/families like this that you could... *ahem* reveal to us?



4E Realms was awful, but it's water under the Boareskyr Bridge. Let's make 5E Realms truly shine!

Edited by - Therise on 04 Aug 2013 18:08:54
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 04 Aug 2013 :  19:55:12  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Are there any lakes or rivers composed wholly or in significant part of liquids which are not water?

Edit: ...on Toril.

Edit: This is a kinda lousy question, from the angle that I don't want to put Ed in the position of authoritatively saying "No, there are no such lakes on Toril" because that would squelch possible future ideas. Which is why he wouldn't say that. So I'm curious if any oddball lakes have been outlined so far, but if not then this question should fall dormant.

And thanks Barastir, I'd forgotten about that one! In fact I hadn't even considered acid; I imagine there are other acidic lakes as well, both below and above the surface. My imagination was going further afield, to a lake of ale. Probably vigorously and loudly defended by a clan of dwarves, constantly working on building pipes, pumps, and channels to supply each home ("tap water") but never quite sober enough to make much progress. I ponder strange questions when I'm tired.

Edited by - xaeyruudh on 05 Aug 2013 16:07:00
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Barastir
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Posted - 05 Aug 2013 :  13:23:38  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by xaeyruudh

Are there any lakes or rivers composed wholly or in significant part of liquids which are not water?

Edit: ...on Toril.

I'm not Ed, but I can give you one answer: there is this lake of acid in the Underdark, where Zaknafein "died" once and for all. It's in the "Cave of the Acid Aerie" (or something like that), in one of Drizzt's books and in 2e Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark.

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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Aug 2013 :  14:49:10  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Ed,

In my 'Misbegotten Realms' campaign - an amalgam of many settings but FR at its heart - I was toying with the notion of having Azoun and Filfaeril's son live (who's name escapes me ATM), and what sort of repercussions that would have on the setting.

Still not sure if I want to do that, but as part of that train-of-thought, I was imagining him being gay, so as not to 'disturb' how other things turned out (trying to curtail the 'butterfly effect').

Anyhow, it made me wonder... have there been any gay male royals in Cormyr, and if so, would they be allowed to take the throne? I am only wondering this not from a 'hater' perspective, but rather, the gay royal not desiring to produce an heir. And even if it never did happen in canon, what would happen? Suppose the Crown Prince lived and turned out gay - would Vangerdehast try to manipulate events so one his sisters took the throne (my asumption here being the Mage Royal is loyal to the Realm first, the royal family second)?

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Edited by - Markustay on 05 Aug 2013 14:51:29
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 05 Aug 2013 :  15:29:43  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Anyhow, it made me wonder... have there been any gay male royals in Cormyr, and if so, would they be allowed to take the throne? I am only wondering this not from a 'hater' perspective, but rather, the gay royal not desiring to produce an heir. And even if it never did happen in canon, what would happen? Suppose the Crown Prince lived and turned out gay - would Vangerdehast try to manipulate events so one his sisters took the throne (my asumption here being the Mage Royal is loyal to the Realm first, the royal family second)?
Yes, here have been gay male royals. Yes, they have been "allowed" to take the Dragon Throne (alhough "allowing" doesn't much come into it). A royal's willingness or ability to produce an heir does not qualify or disqualify that prince's right to wear the crown. Any monarch that fails to produce an heir for whatever reason usually has heirs waiting in the wings: siblings, nephews and nieces, etc.

Specific names and dates, I'm afraid, are NDA, except to say that Vangerdahast tries to manupulate all events. That's what he does, and what he is.
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Eli the Tanner
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Posted - 05 Aug 2013 :  15:56:37  Show Profile  Visit Eli the Tanner's Homepage Send Eli the Tanner a Private Message
Another question for the ever-mounting pile,

Ed, Are there any examples of Realmsian equivalents to staple and oft-quoted treatise like Sun Tzu's Art of War or Plato's Republic? What works would be considered 'mandatory' reading in scholarly and academic circles (not including magical works...for now) for all learned folk of the Realms?

"What! You haven't even read Erlo Elraedan's The Blood-Drenched Throne!"

Thankyou for your continuing insights into all thins Realmsy
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Edited by - Eli the Tanner on 05 Aug 2013 15:58:19
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 05 Aug 2013 :  20:35:40  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message
I have a quick question for both Ed and THO about magic item command words. I'm running a 2e play-by-post campaign, and it's starting to look like magic items will be a recurring feature. While I'm sure there will be the inevitable trading and items wearing out, I'm also going to be making use of command words to try and limit the amount of damage they can do without needing to artificially deflate treasures (ie: you have this batch of wands! You even know what they do! You just don't know how to make them do it...)

Which made me want to ask the two of you how command words and related matters work in the home campaign. If the Knights or Company find a magical item, and it doesn't have its command words scribbled helpfully on it somewhere, how do you go about discovering its command words, especially if you're relatively low level? What are Ed's thoughts on this in general?

Many thanks, as always.

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Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Aug 2013 :  02:27:42  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message
Sorry if this question has been asked before and for not having my exact facts straight but here goes...

I re-read Cormyr awhile back. In it there are a couple of things that happened. First, one of the Royal Mages (when she was still an apprentice) had an affair with the Crown Prince. Later, there is a Royal Mage who 'looks more like an Orbaskyr' than the reigning king. So my question is, have any of the Royal Mages (and specifically Vangerdahast) ever had Orbaskyr blood?

I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one.
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Mournblade
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Posted - 06 Aug 2013 :  04:46:22  Show Profile  Visit Mournblade's Homepage  Send Mournblade an AOL message  Click to see Mournblade's MSN Messenger address  Send Mournblade a Yahoo! Message Send Mournblade a Private Message
Hello Ed!

I am starting my foray now into All grain brewing, and I am wondering if you have any Faerunian Ale recipes using mundane ingredients you can share. I will brew some up and try to send them around to the scribes here.

Though air pressure can really mess beer up.


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Demzer
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Posted - 06 Aug 2013 :  09:56:19  Show Profile Send Demzer a Private Message
Hello fellow scribes.
/bows
Well met gracious Hooded Herald of Lov--er--Lore.
/drops on his knees
Oh Great Sage, Master of Creation, Font of Truth, this unworthy scribe salutes You!
/recomposes himself
Ahem, i have some questions for He of the Greenwood, i'm a recent addition to Candlekeep and i'm still perusing all the old scrolls of lore, so if an answer has already been provided i apologize.

I'll start with a question on the gods (yes, i know, we always want to know about the gods) with a short premise: i play a MMORPG (Dungeons&Dragons Online) in which the death of a party member is signaled to the rest of the party with a loud *DING*.

On to the question: What was it like on the Fugue Plane when the Spellplague hit? What were the reactions of Kelemvor and Jergal to the flood of souls (many without a patron diety thanks to the deific death rate increase of the past years)? How did they handle the situation with more and more spellcaster's souls coming in as the after effects unfolded on all Toril and no magic deity around to collect them?

My personal (comedic) interpretation is something like this:

regular day of work on the Fugue
*DING* Jergal: "died of childbirth"
*DING* Jergal: "killed by bandits"
*DING* Jergal: "suicide"
Cyric kills Mystra
Kelemvor: "Something is happening ... How ...?!?! Midnight?!?"
Jergal (shrugging): "Such is the fate of mortals"
The Spellplague hits Toril
*DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING* *DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING**DING*...
Jergal (with an evil grin): "Jackpot!"
Kelemvor (surprised): "What the Nine Hells ...?!?!?"
Jergal (with the same evil grin): "Oh this is better than both Netheril and Jhaamdath!"
Meanwhile on Fury's Hearth
Talos (watching the events on Toril): "F**K YEAH!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH"
Talos (recomposing himself just a little): "Sending. To: all deities. Message: Party at Cynosure tonight, drinks on me."

Edited by - Demzer on 06 Aug 2013 09:57:43
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

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Posted - 06 Aug 2013 :  13:38:41  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Yes, here have been gay male royals. Yes, they have been "allowed" to take the Dragon Throne (alhough "allowing" doesn't much come into it). A royal's willingness or ability to produce an heir does not qualify or disqualify that prince's right to wear the crown. Any monarch that fails to produce an heir for whatever reason usually has heirs waiting in the wings: siblings, nephews and nieces, etc.

Specific names and dates, I'm afraid, are NDA, except to say that Vangerdahast tries to manupulate all events. That's what he does, and what he is.
Thanx for the speedy response, Brian.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 06 Aug 2013 :  13:41:16  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Yes, here have been gay male royals. Yes, they have been "allowed" to take the Dragon Throne (alhough "allowing" doesn't much come into it). A royal's willingness or ability to produce an heir does not qualify or disqualify that prince's right to wear the crown. Any monarch that fails to produce an heir for whatever reason usually has heirs waiting in the wings: siblings, nephews and nieces, etc.

Specific names and dates, I'm afraid, are NDA, except to say that Vangerdahast tries to manupulate all events. That's what he does, and what he is.
Thanx for the speedy response, Brian.

No problem. This is literally the thing they keep me around for.
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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quote:
Originally posted by The Arcanamach

So my question is, have any of the Royal Mages (and specifically Vangerdahast) ever had Orbaskyr blood?
Ooh, good question!

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sleyvas
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Given that Elminster has visited earth and has sampled some of its products, has Elminster ever sampled Viagra?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Given that Elminster has visited earth and has sampled some of its products, has Elminster ever sampled Viagra?



From what I've read, I don't think he needs it.

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