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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  14:18:17  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Pasta Fzoul

Thus I am curious: what are some of the significant regional (or other, e.g. class) idiosyncrasies seen in the handwriting of a given alphabet?
As an addendum to this... Could Ed also, perhaps, provide a few examples of these idiosyncrasies in an alphabet?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  19:46:15  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Re. these...
from Pasta Fzoul: “Thus I am curious: what are some of the significant regional (or other, e.g. class) idiosyncrasies seen in the handwriting of a given alphabet?”
and from The Sage: “As an addendum to this... Could Ed also, perhaps, provide a few examples of these idiosyncrasies in an alphabet?”

Ed replies:
Sure. If we think of Thorass (the main written alphabet of the Common Tongue) as real-world written (cursive) English, there are letters that have “tails” (descenders) dipping below the main horizontal line of script, ascenders that thrust well above it, loops formed by letters (in modern-real world parlance, counters, formed by bowls), and some letters that have dots above them (such as the lowercase “I” and “j”).
On the southern shores of the Inner Sea, in the TEMPTATION OF ELMINSTER example Pasta Fzoul cited, bowls are squared rather than rounded (so the letter “o” looks like a box, rather than a circle). This style is found in Turmish, the Vilhon, and some of the Lake of Steam cities and easternmost Calishite lands.
In Waterdeep, all loops are rounded, and all arms or legs of letters are curved (descenders back below and behind the preceding letter, and ascenders forward to hang above the following letter).
In Athkatla and especially in Calimshan, those dots I mentioned become horizontal slashes (often “wavy,” like the tilde symbol), but this is found nowhere else except in older writings of Dambrath.
Hope these brief notes are of help. Tearingly busy right now.

So saith Ed. Who is probably the busiest person I know.
love,
THO
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Pasta Fzoul
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Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  20:24:27  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message
quote:
...
Hope these brief notes are of help. Tearingly busy right now.

So saith Ed. Who is probably the busiest person I know.
love,
THO



Absolutely, and thanks once again! It really is the minutiae of the mundane that make for the most interesting Realmslore, if you ask me.
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Bionic Man
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Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  22:39:08  Show Profile Send Bionic Man a Private Message
Hello THO and Ed!

I have a couple questions,
1. Who is the greatest thief currently operating in the Realms? How about in the history of the Realms? I guess if they were truly great we wouldn't know who they are, but surely Ed can help. ;)

2. Do most rangers in the Realms belong to a specific order, or are there numerous ones? If there are many, do they respect each others status?

Thank you!

It's a ::rolls dice:: pleasure to meet you!
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Markustay
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Posted - 27 Jul 2013 :  21:44:43  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Whats the most bizarre 'weather' that has ever happened on Toril? (including really strange things that may have occurred during the ToT or Spellplague).

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Jul 2013 :  22:48:17  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Well, there was that time, at half-past ten, when the humidity was rising and the barometer getting low, that it started raining men.

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Kris the Grey
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Posted - 27 Jul 2013 :  23:51:12  Show Profile Send Kris the Grey a Private Message
Wooly,

According to my sources on that incident, I believe the street was the place to go... Lol.

Ed/THO,

A quick(ish) question. I seem to recall some comment by Ed at last year's Gen Con keynote of the proper accents to use when simulating assorted regional variations of common in the Realms (or at least on the Sword Coast/in Cormyr). Was that ever printed somewhere? And, if it wasn't what 'Earth English' regional accents are the 'most accurate' to use when simulating common in places like: 1) Waterdeep (and its environs), 2) Cormyr (in the area near Eveningstar), 3) Silverymoon and 4) the general Sunset Vale area (near Berdusk and Iriaebor)?

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Jul 2013 :  03:36:25  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Bionic Man

2. Do most rangers in the Realms belong to a specific order, or are there numerous ones? If there are many, do they respect each others status?
I think Ed's briefly tackled this one before. So while you're waiting for a more detailed response, you might wish to search the "So Saith Ed" archives.

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Marco Volo
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Posted - 28 Jul 2013 :  09:40:46  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
Hi everybody !
Can Ed share with us some information about Amry and Telpir, two little Dragon coast settlements that we know not much about ?
No doubt he has some great things for us all about these
Merci beaucoup
MV
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Markustay
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I think they got smooshed in 4e. IIRC correctly, at least one of them was referred to as 'haunted'.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 29 Jul 2013 :  16:17:01  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Ed just sent me a heads-up that the Thule Kickstarter he's involved in is getting down to the wire, so he wanted any gamers who may not have noticed it but might be interested in such a setting to check it out . . .

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/809579963/primeval-thule

. . . thanks!
More Realms replies from the Old Sage when he can snatch the seconds to pound them out.
love to all,
THO
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paladinnicolas
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Posted - 29 Jul 2013 :  23:56:20  Show Profile Send paladinnicolas a Private Message
Dear THO, I would like Ed or you to answer if in Lantan (or anywhere else) transports such as trains or other technologically advanced transports have been invented. Thanks!
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createvmind
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Posted - 30 Jul 2013 :  19:18:58  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello all, Ed in your realms or in your minds eye I'm just curious as to when was last "sighting" of a Tarrasque in the realms? It would seem from canon info that it has been thousands of years unless I missed something and with all the manners of upheavals that have occurred I would think something would stir one of these creatures.

My other thought is that the "forces that be" have found ways to shunt or drive them through portals or onto other planes or just put them in stasis. Am I close?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Jul 2013 :  19:55:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Hello all, Ed in your realms or in your minds eye I'm just curious as to when was last "sighting" of a Tarrasque in the realms? It would seem from canon info that it has been thousands of years unless I missed something and with all the manners of upheavals that have occurred I would think something would stir one of these creatures.

My other thought is that the "forces that be" have found ways to shunt or drive them through portals or onto other planes or just put them in stasis. Am I close?



There was one in the Forgotten Realms comic series, in the Dragonreach Saga arc (5-8, I believe). I don't remember the in-setting date, but Scothgar Amcathra was born to Mourngrym and Shaerl during that arc. I think it was around 1357, shortly before the ToT.

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lordsknight185
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Posted - 31 Jul 2013 :  00:00:21  Show Profile Send lordsknight185 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Hello all, Ed in your realms or in your minds eye I'm just curious as to when was last "sighting" of a Tarrasque in the realms? It would seem from canon info that it has been thousands of years unless I missed something and with all the manners of upheavals that have occurred I would think something would stir one of these creatures.

My other thought is that the "forces that be" have found ways to shunt or drive them through portals or onto other planes or just put them in stasis. Am I close?



There was one in the Forgotten Realms comic series, in the Dragonreach Saga arc (5-8, I believe). I don't remember the in-setting date, but Scothgar Amcathra was born to Mourngrym and Shaerl during that arc. I think it was around 1357, shortly before the ToT.



1357 indeed, as that comic took place before, during, and after the Time of Troubles. And to my understanding, the comic is completely canon.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by lordsknight185

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Hello all, Ed in your realms or in your minds eye I'm just curious as to when was last "sighting" of a Tarrasque in the realms? It would seem from canon info that it has been thousands of years unless I missed something and with all the manners of upheavals that have occurred I would think something would stir one of these creatures.

My other thought is that the "forces that be" have found ways to shunt or drive them through portals or onto other planes or just put them in stasis. Am I close?



There was one in the Forgotten Realms comic series, in the Dragonreach Saga arc (5-8, I believe). I don't remember the in-setting date, but Scothgar Amcathra was born to Mourngrym and Shaerl during that arc. I think it was around 1357, shortly before the ToT.



1357 indeed, as that comic took place before, during, and after the Time of Troubles. And to my understanding, the comic is completely canon.



I believe it was Steven Schend who said TSR considered the comics to be canon, and many things (events, characters, critters, etc) from the comics have made their way into source material and novels.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by paladinnicolas

Dear THO, I would like Ed or you to answer if in Lantan (or anywhere else) transports such as trains or other technologically advanced transports have been invented. Thanks!

I can probably take a shot at answering this one, using a previous reply from Ed on the subject.
quote:
So Saith Ed 2004:-

... "steam engines (monstrous "rolling-beam" stationary types, akin to those found in Cornish tin mines and elsewhere AND tiny 'using a fire one builds in a bowl' sorts) are in common use all over Lantan, but remain "dangerous" curiosities elsewhere (although many Faerunians know about harnessing the hot gas from a fire collected through a hood-and-pipe apparatus). As several posters have mentioned, Gond rules such pursuits, and copious prayers to him will be a part of any steam-work. What the Realms DOESN'T yet have is reliable steam propulsion (locomotives, that is -- although miners'-sweatwork and donkey- or mule-drawn mining railways, with little 'tip' ore cars, ARE used here and there, and are known to all dwarves and gnomes). Distillation and other simple steam-related procedures are widely known if not widely understood."

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by lordsknight185

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Hello all, Ed in your realms or in your minds eye I'm just curious as to when was last "sighting" of a Tarrasque in the realms? It would seem from canon info that it has been thousands of years unless I missed something and with all the manners of upheavals that have occurred I would think something would stir one of these creatures.

My other thought is that the "forces that be" have found ways to shunt or drive them through portals or onto other planes or just put them in stasis. Am I close?



There was one in the Forgotten Realms comic series, in the Dragonreach Saga arc (5-8, I believe). I don't remember the in-setting date, but Scothgar Amcathra was born to Mourngrym and Shaerl during that arc. I think it was around 1357, shortly before the ToT.



1357 indeed, as that comic took place before, during, and after the Time of Troubles. And to my understanding, the comic is completely canon.



I believe it was Steven Schend who said TSR considered the comics to be canon, and many things (events, characters, critters, etc) from the comics have made their way into source material and novels.

From Steven himself:-

"As the guy who used to be the liaison and approvals guy for TSR and the AD&D comic with Kim Yale (may she rest in peace) at DC, I can say unequivocally that the events and characters are all canonical.

Steven
who also led the charge to move the characters into the game material as well..."

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silverwolfer
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Dear Wise One


What happens to the followers of gods that sort of don't mesh within certain followers.


Elistree had half-orc worshipers , which would obviously not mesh well for the elves pantheon.

When Mask got absorbed, did those that were in his afterlife , enter shars domain?

ooo one last bit, one big gap in story lore, what happened to the elves that Elistree saved from Lloth, did they just start new communities and faced no challenges; beyond what the average eleven community would face?

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Caladan Brood
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Posted - 31 Jul 2013 :  11:02:20  Show Profile  Visit Caladan Brood's Homepage Send Caladan Brood a Private Message
Dear Ed,
I was on a beach the other day during my summer travels and found myself staring at a tree-covered cliff that ran like a ridge from the waterside and into the landscape from east to west. It reminded me of the escarpment/cliffs north of Eveningstar, which according to the source material runs from the High Horns in the west almost to Arabel in the east.

I was wondering if this rise in the landscape, this plateau if you will, has a name; how tall is it, is it generally the same height all the way, how did it come to be (in the case of the one I watched it had something do with glacial melting, an information board told me)?

I took a picture of the place so you can see for yourself;

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/Slynt/RPGs/IMG_9334_zps67b88b1e.jpg

is this how you'd envision the escarpment running into northern Cormyr? With trees and stuff, or is it bare?
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paladinnicolas
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I can probably take a shot at answering this one, using a previous reply from Ed on the subject."

Thanks Sage!
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dravenloft
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I could swear I've asked this before, but I can't even find the question, let alone the answer so I'm going to assume I only dreamt the asking.

In Cormyr (I forget the date, 1e grey box era as I recall and after the events of the Knights of Myth Dranor trilogy)
1) how or even does it affect anything if the heir of a noble family were to become a cleric?
2) if said heiress and cleric took it into her head to join a chartered adventuring band?

And if I HAVE asked this and got answered, if Sage's search-fu is better than mine I'd be quite grateful for the relevant link back to it

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 01 Aug 2013 :  00:25:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Caladan Brood, here's Ed:

Yes, that photo captures the escarpment (known locally in Eveningstar and thereabouts as "the Rampart" or "Stormcliff" [because in some areas storms blow over the Stonelands and then "spill over" the edge of this cliff, which marks the edge of the Stonelands) almost perfectly.
I say "almost" because there are places (on the east side of the cleft/stream valley leading up to the Haunted Halls from Eveningstar, for instance) where farm fields, or rather pastures, with "fences" of stones piled into tall-man-shoulder-height walls, have been cleared and used. They look more like the parts of the English coast (e.g. along some of the white cliffs of Dover, though the Rampart looks like your photo or what I modeled it on, the Niagara Escarpment in Ontario, Canada, NOT like white chalk cliffs) where farmland runs right up to the drop-off cliff edge.
Hope this is of help.

So saith Ed. Who in his youth climbed many of the cliffs, and explored many of the caves, of that escarpment, particularly near Rattlesnake Point (which by coincidence looks quite like your photo, Calaban Brood).
love,
THO
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Caladan Brood
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Wow that was fast thanks THO and Ed :-)
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xaeyruudh
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Posted - 01 Aug 2013 :  18:34:09  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Yay I came up with an actual yes/no question!

Is Bluestone ("a small village near the Frozen Forest" from whence Sharra Frohm embarked on her quest into the Great Glacier to write volume 2 of Blood and Ice, mentioned on p73 of FR14) part of Ed's Realms?

I'm theorizing about its location in another thread; just wanted to see if it's already been decided.
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