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createvmind
Senior Scribe

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Posted - 06 Jan 2013 :  20:47:46  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Happy New Year Ed,

I see the towering NDA monolith before me but I will try nonetheless or hope to bypass it like this. Ed in your mindseye realms would the goddess of magic have manipulated the Imaskari global spell of no one being able to "think" about them to allow certain of her Chosen to be aware of the spell and exempt from it's power? Did she in anyway influence areas within or on Faerun that also made this spell ineffective in that particular location or did the Imaskari just one of the most awesome spells ever?

Somehow I'm assuming they managed to fold, bend or place their existence being recalled or spoken of in a series of lesser-GREATER spells that some fire off together to achieve the effect of bypassing all manner of mortal or deity interference.

Or somehow attached the spell to the very weave itself under the same concept maybe as Truename magic, hiding their existence within the very obscure knowledge of deities TRUE names and such thus ensuring the deity themselves would have to expose that power of their own name if they sought to expose the Imaskari's existence?

:Looks up at the monolith still unmoving and waits.....................


Thanks
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createvmind
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Posted - 06 Jan 2013 :  20:52:13  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
One more NDA probable question, in your minds-eye realm is their any entity or object or element that totally negates all manner of magic/psionic, supernatural ability, life and undeath even....a ONE thing that pretty much nullifies the functioning of pretty much everything within it's influence or if touched? Just makes all things inert.
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rjfras
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Posted - 06 Jan 2013 :  23:14:58  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dravenloft

The question RE Sylvanus' burial methods made me wonder just what it might be that Sharessin clergy might do for the dead.

Try as I may I can't seem to imagine what that might be like.



From Ed on Oct 24, 2005

quote:
Sharess: no crypts or embalming. Priests embrace the dead in a ‘last intimacy’ (that need not be more intimate than a kiss while the living cleric’s arms are wrapped around the corpse), and the corpses are then animated in a Firedance spell, to cavort in air above a pyre, which is then lit to consume them (so they dance as they crumble into ash, “dancing on air” no matter how much they’ve crumbled, rather than collapsing as a Dance of Death spell allows)


(btw, in the same post he also mentioned ones also for Chauntea, Helm, Kelemvor, Lathander, Lliira, Selune, Tempus and Tymora)
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
313 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  10:27:51  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
<snip>
So saith Ed. And there you have it: Zandilar's answer and our first in-depth lore look at the politics of Deepingdale.



Wow. Thank you so much, that was very enlightening, and gave me some ideas and enough hooks to last a whole campaign! (My poor players... muahahaha! )

But I also have some more questions...

Does Ulath's father still live? Does he have a spouse and children or fosterlings? And who would be some of those he's cultivating as successors?

Lastly, is there anything you can say about his relationships with Teesha Than (the monk of the Old Order who took over Rhauntides's tower and turned it into a monastery) and her Order, and Danali the Indexer and the church of Oghma?

Thanks again!

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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JohnLynch
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  11:00:22  Show Profile Send JohnLynch a Private Message
Well after searching the forums I haven't been able to find the answer so I thought I'd ask it here. If this has already been covered sorry, and could you point me to it?

Hi Ed! First time question for me.

Lantan is well known for being a nation of inventions and the like. This all came to the fore when Gond manifested on the Lantan islands as a gnome during the Time of Troubles. I was wondering if you had any notes on what Lantan was like before the ToT or (if it's an easier question to answer) how was it changed by the ToT?

I'm presuming that there would have been temples to Gond before the ToT. But I'm curious if they dominated Lantanna society as much pre-ToT as they seem to post-ToT

Thanks
John
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PaulBestwick
Learned Scribe

United Kingdom
83 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  13:49:29  Show Profile Send PaulBestwick a Private Message
I hope the new year finds you well Ed and you to good Lady.

A query from my self after a couple of years quiet since my Great Dale query. I return to ask about coinage in particular. I am looking for details of 1370's coins like to be in circulation amongst the population of the eastern Great Dale and possibley with the Nar's tribes to the north of this area.

In additon what coinage was in circulation in Netheril at the end of the Empire when Karsus brought the house down as it were? Tenuous link I know, but remains of Jiksidur are why I want to know this last nugget of information
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sleyvas
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  18:37:41  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
Ah, Jiksidur... how many of us would love to see some lore on this old enclave of Larloch's.... and why it was floating near Narfell during that empire's age.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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sleyvas
Great Reader

USA
5643 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  18:53:13  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Happy New Year Ed,

I see the towering NDA monolith before me but I will try nonetheless or hope to bypass it like this. Ed in your mindseye realms would the goddess of magic have manipulated the Imaskari global spell of no one being able to "think" about them to allow certain of her Chosen to be aware of the spell and exempt from it's power? Did she in anyway influence areas within or on Faerun that also made this spell ineffective in that particular location or did the Imaskari just one of the most awesome spells ever?

Somehow I'm assuming they managed to fold, bend or place their existence being recalled or spoken of in a series of lesser-GREATER spells that some fire off together to achieve the effect of bypassing all manner of mortal or deity interference.

Or somehow attached the spell to the very weave itself under the same concept maybe as Truename magic, hiding their existence within the very obscure knowledge of deities TRUE names and such thus ensuring the deity themselves would have to expose that power of their own name if they sought to expose the Imaskari's existence?

:Looks up at the monolith still unmoving and waits.....................


Thanks



You might get a little better of a response if you made this a little bit clearer. I'm reading through it and going "what is this guy talking about?". Is there a particular minds eye article you're interested in? The sentences aren't necessarily complete or grammatically correct, etc... (please understand, this is not meant to be a bash... I read what you wrote and was intrigued enough that I wanted to go find an article... only I couldn't make sense enough of it to figure out what special spell you were referring to).

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5037 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  22:32:52  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
To Paul Bestwick, re. coinage of and in the Great Dale: we Knights rescued a drunken merchant in Telflamm who was from the Great Dale, and Torm found a lot of triangular (arrowhead-elongated, not equilateral) beaten copper coins with trade-symbols stamped in them. Unfortunately, that's all I noted down, so we'll really have to see what Ed says.
love,
THO
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Euranna
Learned Scribe

USA
219 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  23:26:27  Show Profile Send Euranna a Private Message
Good afternoon THO,
I just wanted to say that I love when you pipe in with your own notes from your sessions as one of the Knights. I too take a lot of notes during our gaming sessions. And now when the guys at the table make fun of me for writing so many details down, I know I am not nuts (in the bad way).

I do have a question for you. Do you keep them in a particular fashion so you can reference them later? Did you ever go back and clean up/expand on what you noted?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5037 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  02:52:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, Euranna!
Well, my answer has to be: yes and no.
Here's why...
The older notes (before the Internet, before "word processors" let alone personal, at-home computers) are of course handwritten, and in a series of identical "exercise notes" schoolbook lined pamphlets. Those get read, but never altered.
(I just have too busy a life to have time to input all of them into electronic form. I started doing OCR scanning years back, but the software was so crude/made SO many mistakes that it was taking longer than secretarial-style inputting would have taken.)
My newer notes don't get reorganized, because they're electronically searchable (big Word docs, divided by the [real] year of play), but they DO get augmented and altered in two ways: when I discuss something with Ed and he adds lore or explains something from long-ago play that he doesn't need/want to still keep secret from me, as a player, or when he provides an answer here at the Keep or in a column for Wizards. In those cases, I go back into the files and make changes to reflect the new information I now "know."
If I'm trying to flesh out details of play, on my own, I have to do it soon after the play session, or my memories fade and go faulty. Getting old . . .
And NO, you're not nuts (except in the good way).
love,
THO
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Infamous
Seeker

42 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  06:21:27  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Ed wrote some time ago:

Being as this is Candlekeep, I can do no more than point you to what a Harper PC (not one of the Knights) uncovered when asking a monk of Candlekeep to research Qilue's destiny. The monk was of course limited to finding prophecies and other written histories, and reported thus: one seer saw a dream wherein Qilue wielded a sword forged of her own blood, and was hailed by knights as "the Godslayer."
However, another seer (the monk declined to identify either of his sources, BTW) said "the dark one who serves two goddesses but leads the dance for only one shall be mother to a new race, and change the face of the Realms forever."
Either way, it seems Qilue's future bids fair to be interesting.

Did this new race die stillborn, prey to editorial hazards?
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Kajehase
Great Reader

Sweden
2104 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  06:32:55  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
Oh look what I found over at Paizo's site... Seems someone have been busy (or, well, working at his usual pace): The Wizard's Mask by Ed Greenwood

"In the war-torn lands of Molthune and Nirmathas, where rebels fight an endless war of secession against an oppressive military government, the constant fighting can make for strange alliances. Such is the case for the man known only as the Masked, the victim of a magical curse that forces him to hide his face, and an escaped halfling slave woman named Tantaerra. Thrown together by chance, the two fugitives find themselves conscripted by both sides of the conflict and forced to search for a magical artifact that could help shift the balance of power and end the bloodshed for good. But in order to survive, the thieves will first need to learn to the one thing none of their adventures have taught them: how to trust each other."

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
Terry Pratchett
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
13801 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  15:43:11  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Great find, because it segue-ways into my own question nicely:

I noted last night that the original PF campaign guide lists you as a contributor - what parts of Golarion are you 'responsible for'? I seem to recall this may have been asked before, so if Sage or some other scribe can provide an answer that'd be fine.

quote:
Originally posted by Infamous

Did this new race die stillborn, prey to editorial hazards?
I am fairly certain this is a reference to 5e's Dark Elves (the 'reborn' Drow).

On a related note (to both above), I just now realized that this arrangement is VERY similar to how drow were handled in PF ('Noble' drow are the cool ones, all others are just monsters).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 08 Jan 2013 15:43:55
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Thieran
Learned Scribe

Germany
292 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  17:25:37  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message
Dear Ed,
Which script do the (rock) gnomes of the Realms use for writing down their language? Is it Dethek, used by their brethren from Greyhawk (cf. PHB 3.5)?
Happy Belated New Year!
- Thieran
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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USA
2717 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  17:53:39  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message
Hello THO and Ed,

Ed, do you have any favorites among the words you’ve created for Realms languages?

If yes, what are your five favorite words in the Chondathan language?

Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver).
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createvmind
Senior Scribe

490 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  19:56:45  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

Happy New Year Ed,

I see the towering NDA monolith before me but I will try nonetheless or hope to bypass it like this. Ed in your mindseye realms would the goddess of magic have manipulated the Imaskari global spell of no one being able to "think" about them to allow certain of her Chosen to be aware of the spell and exempt from it's power? Did she in anyway influence areas within or on Faerun that also made this spell ineffective in that particular location or did the Imaskari just one of the most awesome spells ever?

Somehow I'm assuming they managed to fold, bend or place their existence being recalled or spoken of in a series of lesser-GREATER spells that some fire off together to achieve the effect of bypassing all manner of mortal or deity interference.

Or somehow attached the spell to the very weave itself under the same concept maybe as Truename magic, hiding their existence within the very obscure knowledge of deities TRUE names and such thus ensuring the deity themselves would have to expose that power of their own name if they sought to expose the Imaskari's existence?

:Looks up at the monolith still unmoving and waits.....................


Thanks



You might get a little better of a response if you made this a little bit clearer. I'm reading through it and going "what is this guy talking about?". Is there a particular minds eye article you're interested in? The sentences aren't necessarily complete or grammatically correct, etc... (please understand, this is not meant to be a bash... I read what you wrote and was intrigued enough that I wanted to go find an article... only I couldn't make sense enough of it to figure out what special spell you were referring to).




Sorry, I'm so used to Ed knowing the manner of which I try to get an answer without asking something that he directly can't answer.

Minds eye refers to Ed's personal homebrew campaign world.

Spell in question would be the Great Seal I think it's called enclosing Deep Imaskar.
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createvmind
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  19:57:58  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
And I write on the fly so I don't forget the question, sorry for grammar.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5037 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  03:23:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Thieran, being as Dethek is Ed's creation, for the Realms, I figured that the gnomes of the Realms would use it, and Ed just confirmed that:

Yes, Dethek indeed. With the usual "dialect" differences.
In the case of the gnomes, they do numbers differently. Picture a single staple or the bars of a soccer net: a squared-off arch, or upside-down "U." Now picture the viewer's-right-hand "leg" of that arch being thrice as long as the left one. A "zero" is that arch. Numbers from 1-9 are a vertical row of dots (two dots for two, nine dots for nine) running down the "inside" (arch side) of that right-hand leg, from the crossbar for one and on down for more.
"Tens" are short horizontal lines jutting out from the "outside" of the right-hand leg, starting from just above its bottom point for ten and teens, and going up (two bars) for twenty, thirty (three bars) and so on.
So the number 26 would be an arch with six dots running down the inside of its long leg, and two jutting tails running out horizontally from the outside of the long leg.


So saith Ed. Creator of the Realms, Dethek, and several other scripts.
love,
THO
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Euranna
Learned Scribe

USA
219 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  03:52:20  Show Profile Send Euranna a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

quote:
Originally posted by Infamous

Did this new race die stillborn, prey to editorial hazards?


I am fairly certain this is a reference to 5e's Dark Elves (the 'reborn' Drow).




This is what I was thinking as well. Her "death" led to/enabled some of the untainted drow to become dark elves again.
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Bootravsky
Acolyte

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  06:11:07  Show Profile Send Bootravsky a Private Message
After reading Ed Greenwood presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms, in particular the chapter on the Gods, I actually have a question for Mr.Greenwood and The Hooded One:
Given that all people of the realms worship, give lip service to, or at least propitiate - basically, believe in - all deities, to what extent is iconography of evil deities used in lands where the evil deities are not preeminent?

For example, would Bane as god of tyrants also qualify for jailers? Are there friezes/emblams in prisons, perhaps accompanied by/opposed by icons for Helm and Tyr, that let the prisoners know that the act of imprisoning them is blessed as an act of keeping malefactors in line by some god. I can see how that would make a jail in somewhere as benign as Cormyr be something to fear.
Do secret societies (even good ones) give thanks to Shar when they successfully spread a lie that furthers their aims? Might Shar's symbol be coopted by well known "secret societies" similar to the Freemasons or Illuminati, in whose name they spread lies of their own beliefs (whether fell or just reputation based)?
Or Talona's symbol being used as an identifier by an apothecary who surrounds it with symbols that minimize her influence.
Finally, would Good kingdoms have rooms dedicated to Loviatar in which, as a last resort, secrets (and sometimes untruths) are painfully extracted from known Zhentarim or Dragon Cultists (or pick your evil society)?

I love that the book provided details on the priesthoods of Malar, Umberlee, Auril and Myrkul in a way that allows DMs to place their priests anywhere - and not available for PCs to just out and out identify as being antagonists. Perhaps feared or reviled, but not necessarily hated. I can easily see Umberlee being treated like the Drowned God from A Song of Ice and Fire, with fanatical priests pushing for the Bitch Queen's justice (i.e. keelhauling) for disobedient sailors. Or just to make an example. or just for the hell of it.

Thanks for taking the time to answer this question. And, even if it takes years, I'll keep reading to see what other Realmslore gems drop from the pen of the Great Sage!
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Infamous
Seeker

42 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  20:37:37  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Thank you, Markustay and Euranna, for mentioning the dark elves. I had not yet heard of them.

A couple or more unrelated questions for Ed, Master of Realmslore:

When undead speak, what is their voice like? Old, rispy, crackling leather in the case of Targrael? In the case of a lich who is only bones and has no lungs left, for example, ... What do the player characters hear when he communicates? Telepathy does not seem to be scary enough.

About Mystra's Ban: in the rare occasions she relaxes the Ban, do ancient spells known by ancient mages suddenly start working again, or do they have to be re-learned? By "relaxing the Ban," I refer to published books which try to get around it. I may not like it, but it is canon, so I seek an in-story understanding of the mechanism for epic spells, for example.

About horses: they would be the ideal method of transportation for common folk in the Realms, but somehow, in my mind's eye, I see it as a place where most people just walk. I am sure it varies from place to place, but the idea of a city crowded with horses and a city full of pedestrians are two different things. Plus, there is the issue (pardon me) of horseshit. Does it cover every Main Street in all the major cities?

Finally, are there vegetarians in the Realms? Most lovers of nature also embrace a certain indifference about the circle of life and death, so i am not sure who would be a vegetarian there. It may seem like a modern idea, but it has existed in our world for a long time, though it used to be called Pythagorean diet -- Leonardo da Vinci, for example, was said to follow it.

Thanks.

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Rivenhelm
Seeker

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Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  20:51:54  Show Profile Send Rivenhelm a Private Message
Great nugget of lore on Theremen. Thanks Ed! Especially the seemingly throwaway comment about the roadside cairns. I love that stuff! It reminded me of a snippet from FRE3 about stone way markers in Cormyr, "Small faded white symbols of wyverns painted on rocks at crossroads indicate the direction to Wheloon. Symbols in the shape of a crown show the way to Suzail; anchor symbols represent Marsember." [page 6]. So since my group is based in Eveningstar, what would the symbols be for Eveningstar, Arabel, Dhedluk, and Tyrluk? Thanks again for the great gems. As all ways, the size doesn't always relate to the worth.

Rich...
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5037 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  21:24:02  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Rivenhelm, I can answer PART of your question. The way-symbol for Arabel is a six-spoked, side-on wagon wheel, the way-symbol for Eveningstar is a horizontal-but-curving-down-to-the-right arc of three eight-pointed stars (vertical "rays" longer than the rest), and the way-symbol for Dhedluk is an anvil (side-on, point to the viewer's left). I'll have to nudge Ed for Tyrluk's, but I THINK it's a horsehead.

Infamous, there are guilds (see the Dungsweepers, in Waterdeep) in every major city who collect horse- and ox- and mule-dung (valuable fertilizer as well as street nuisance).
Many druids are vegetarians, as well as poor dwellers in the wilds (by necessity).
Many times when Ed portrays talking undead, he uses the glacially calm voice Douglas Rain used when speaking as HAL in the movies 2001 and 2010.

For more, and for replies to Bootravsky and scribes who asked earlier questions, we're waiting on Ed. Who promises to get to the Raventrees, soon!
love,
THO

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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
313 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  23:04:10  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

I have more questions to add on to my others... I'll leave it at this, as I know Ed's very busy and has many many other questions to answer. (I can always make it up if I need to. )

What are the names of Ulath's mother and sisters? Are they all still living in 1372 DR (the Year of Wild Magic)?

Who is the leader of the 70 elven archers I seem to remember reading about in the 1st and 2nd Edition sources I have? Would they accept into their ranks and/or train a sufficiently skilled and good hearted human?

Lastly, FRCS says that Ulath would/does welcome Eilistraeean Drow into the dale, with the hope that they might know of or have magic capable of fighting Drow who follow Vhaeraun. Are there any representatives of Eilistraee in Deepingdale (or in the township of Highmoon), or is he merely open to the idea and it hasn't happened yet? What do/would the folk of the dale think of this idea?

Thank you again!

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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