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MalariaMoon
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  14:56:58  Show Profile  Visit MalariaMoon's Homepage Send MalariaMoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi fellow sages,

I was wondering whether anyone had any ideas regarding what animals and monsters (beyond the obvious real world mammals such as elephants, hippos, walruses etc.) might be used as a source of ivory in the Realms.

Furthermore, what unexpected uses might ivory be put to?

Markustay
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  15:41:47  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While Unicorn Horn comes imediately to mind, the next thing I think of are tusks. Not only do we have Smilodons (Saber-toothed cats) in the Realms, we also have loads and loads of ORCS.

Think of how pissed an Orc would be to find a shop selling Orc-tusk scrimshaw.

EDIT: The Loxo also have tusks, and would probably be just as upset about finding their 'ivory' somewhere as an orc would.

There's also Fiend and dragon horn, although depending upon which sources you read both of those have a tendency to deteriorate rapidly. In the Riverworld series, Odysseus had a bow made from dragon bone that only he could pull (it wasn't a true dragon - just a massive fish native to that world).

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Edited by - Markustay on 29 Dec 2012 15:45:49
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  16:42:44  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've always liked the idea of using dragon bone to make incredibly powerful bows. You would use one of the long bones like the femur, and the only real question is just how many you could get out of a single bone. Having seen and stood next to an brontosaurus femur, I know it would be a lot more than just one.

Dragon horn would also be good, and on the non-dragon front there's the fish that swim in the lakes of Icewind Dale. They apparently only live there, and their bones are very good for scrimshaw.

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Bladewind
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  17:00:08  Show Profile Send Bladewind a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A single unworked dragontooth can make a great Greatclub. Working on a large frontfang of a wyrm one could fashion a Greatsword, Greataxe or Scythe with a terrifying look.

Giants' teeth are neat sources of ivory, as are illithid fangs, leucrotta molars and kraken teeth.

Fiends discorporate when slain on the material plane, no? One could travel the Abyss or the Nine Hells to obtain some. Their ivory and bones could prove highly resistant to certain elements and good for bypassing fiendish resistance to normal weapons.

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Markustay
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  17:08:24  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Illithids have fangs?

I thought they just plain sucked.

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rjfras
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Posted - 29 Dec 2012 :  17:55:47  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From Volo's Guide to All Things Magical:

Hornbill Ivory: Hornbill ivory is not ivory at all, but rather material from the beak of the hornbill bird. This hardstone is carved into items such as combs and beads or used for inlay work in stone or wood items of furniture. This tough substance can be employed as a material component in spells and in the making of certain magical items and tokens concerned with flight.

Ivory (or Dentine): The substance that provides the teeth of all mammals is referred to as ivory or dentine when used for decorative purposes. Whenever the teeth or tusks are large enough, they can be used for carving: cachalot whale teeth, narwhal, boar, behemoths, umber hulks, Dragon teeth and fangs of other creatures such as displacer beast fangs.


From Volo's Guide to the North:

knucklehead trout, fish whose fist-sized heads and spiny body bones are akin to fine ivory in hue and appearance.


From Monstrous Compendium FR Appendix:

Some loxo are artisans and work with wood, metal, and ivory from the tusks of their dead. Loxoth make their own weapons, using their strong, clumsy hands to form dirk and blunt weapons. For finer work, they use their weaker, more dexterous trunks. Ivory is always carved into religious figurines and kept as family heirlooms,


From Sea of Fallen Stars:

merrow often bear ivory horns on their foreheads, though these do not grow in until well into adulthood. If a merrow exhibits black horns, he is considered to be blessed


In Power of Faerun, the ogre mage Sothillis had a pair of short, thick ivory horns protruding from his forehead


From Monsters of Faerun:

Cloaker Lords have ivory-clawed black wings


From Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting Box Set it doesn't say what animals, but it does give two places where alot of the ivory worked in Suzail comes from:

hundreds of winters of ivory gleaned from the Unapproachable East and the hot jungles of the South has found its way across the Inner Sea in great shiploads of raw tusks and fragments to here and been fashioned into inlays and goods for Amn, the North, and the Sword Coast cities.
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MalariaMoon
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  12:27:56  Show Profile  Visit MalariaMoon's Homepage Send MalariaMoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your suggestions scribes!
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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  12:48:41  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Think of how pissed an Orc would be to find a shop selling Orc-tusk scrimshaw.


The shop wouldn't be there for very long afterwards, I imagine.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  21:36:25  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd heard that many orc tribes use teeth as currency, and that at least one tribe is comparatively "rich" because their teeth regenerate.

Not all the descriptions and artwork portrays orcs with tusks. Although if it's all canon then we'd have to accept a highly variable appearance or numerous subtypes across the species, sometimes they're depicted with distinctly boarlike snouts and tusks, other times they're shown more like brutish thickbrowed Neanderthal sorts of humans.

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  00:03:23  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

I'd heard that many orc tribes use teeth as currency, and that at least one tribe is comparatively "rich" because their teeth regenerate.

Not all the descriptions and artwork portrays orcs with tusks. Although if it's all canon then we'd have to accept a highly variable appearance or numerous subtypes across the species, sometimes they're depicted with distinctly boarlike snouts and tusks, other times they're shown more like brutish thickbrowed Neanderthal sorts of humans.



That's Warhammer. 40k, if I'm not mistaken.

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Eilserus
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  19:43:34  Show Profile Send Eilserus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't remember if its canon, but I've used umberhulk claws and teeth as a form of underdark ivory. Plus those claws can be used for head pieces of mining picks with increased excavation rates. :)
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  23:29:00  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dragon-horn and teeth I've always used as very expensive ivory (especially for carvings of dragons!)...

Giant teeth (and ogre teeth) I've said are well used by dwarves as well as other races for carvings...or even drinking mugs. I've had a player make bone rings out of giant teeth and enchant them too.

Just a couple things from my memory...

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Markustay
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 :  23:47:57  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some humanoids will pay good money for the elusive 'human horn'. Its said to have aphrodisiac properties.

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