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Sightless
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  04:05:47  Show Profile Send Sightless a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's my problem I'd love to tell WOTC that I would rather have a pring addition, paper I mean, but well, there website isn't screen-reader accesable, hasn't been so since about2010. They changed the format round that time, so none of us folks can go there. I'm not the only person that was suprised by this, so my question is, what's the best alternative? Start writing them a letter?

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  04:49:02  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you send me a message, I will see it gets sent on to the proper folks as best I can. My email is: erikscottdebie@yahoo.com

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  06:15:16  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did not know about the Last Legend of Gedrin Shadowbane or Chosen of the Sword @@ I'm reading Eye of Justice, but I'm reading other Realms books as well, so I haven't finished it. Plus, I'm in college, so that eats up my time.

I'm glad I have a Kindle (saves tress), but I do like my Realms in physical form. Plus, it's a way of advertising and you can show them off! My mom also reads my books, but she doesn't have a Kindle, so she can't very well read the ones in ebook.

I have to say though, Kalen is pretty awesome :)

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Dennis
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  06:17:56  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Heh. You probably know my answer already before I even post it.

I'm partial to wizards, and usually dislike knights, paladins, and the like.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  07:32:13  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Heh. You probably know my answer already before I even post it.
I'm partial to wizards, and usually dislike knights, paladins, and the like.
Oh indeed, Dennis, I know your tastes. No doubt you'll find nothing at all appealing about ruggedly sexy Kalen Dren and his increasing magical powers. Instead, I suggest you read the series for my amnesiac wizard Myrin who--as of Shadowbane--is an equally lead character. Sure, the series is named after Kalen, but we all know she's pretty awesome.

To paraphrase a line from Downshadow, when a freshly memory-less Myrin is eating morning feast with the other characters and she casually mage hands a spoon to herself, drawing incredulous stares: "What? Can't everyone do that?"

That's right. Where/when Myrin comes from, everyone CAN do that.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  07:34:27  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I did not know about the Last Legend of Gedrin Shadowbane or Chosen of the Sword @@ I'm reading Eye of Justice, but I'm reading other Realms books as well, so I haven't finished it. Plus, I'm in college, so that eats up my time.
I have to say though, Kalen is pretty awesome :)
Your approval makes me content, and I'm glad you enjoy!

Consider posting a review on Amazon when you're done!

Also, good luck with the college thing. It's fun and hard work, no lie.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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Chosen of Asmodeus
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  08:15:52  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Started reading at Shadowbane without realizing it wasn't the first in the series- mainly picked it up due to it's Abyssal Plague connection.

Have to tell you, Erik, I think you like the belligerent sexual tension trope considerably more than I do.

I'm not quite finished with it yet. Overall I find it enjoyable; I like that Kalen in't the biggest badass on the block, always good to find a protagonist that gets beaten down some. I really liked the inclusion of a voidsoul genasi; my reaction was along the lines of "Hey, someone else remembered those things exist!".

There wouldn't happen to be a statblock for Sithe laying around anywhere, would there?

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LastStand
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  12:35:45  Show Profile Send LastStand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I enjoy books made of paper.

That said: I very much enjoyed Downshadow and might make an exception for Shadowbane.

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~ Claymore ch106

Edited by - LastStand on 12 Oct 2012 12:37:19
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phranctoast
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USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  13:53:03  Show Profile Send phranctoast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any chance Shadowbane may make Rise of the Underdark, as Myrin seems like a perfect candidate to be coveted by the Drow now?

Currently reading: Spider and Stone by Jaleigh Johnson: Sequel to Mistshore
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Laeknir
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  15:45:56  Show Profile  Visit Laeknir's Homepage Send Laeknir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't buy WotC books. When I want a particular title, I borrow it from the library (yep, even e-books, my city library is great).

At the end of the day, I refuse to buy from a company that (IMO) has progressively destroyed an IP that I used to really love. It's not just about 4E, though that was a major deciding factor to stop. Recent changes and plans haven't budged me on this, considering that not only are they keeping 4E as part of the timeline, they are retaining and emphasizing elements that I really detest (Cyric, AO, the culled Drow pantheon, the 100-yr time jump, spellplague-powerz, Far Realms, Abeir, and the idea that gods are avatars of some other god - Talos/Gruumsh).

What I don't like, I don't support with my money. Nothing personal, and nothing you're likely to fix anytime soon. Sorry.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  16:07:07  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

Started reading at Shadowbane without realizing it wasn't the first in the series- mainly picked it up due to it's Abyssal Plague connection.
Gotcha. Did it follow up on Sword of the Gods to your approval?

quote:
Have to tell you, Erik, I think you like the belligerent sexual tension trope considerably more than I do.
Heh, well there is a little of that. It's not the focus of the book, but yes, sexual tension is one of those things that drives a plot.

quote:
I'm not quite finished with it yet. Overall I find it enjoyable; I like that Kalen in't the biggest badass on the block, always good to find a protagonist that gets beaten down some.
Well, if you finish it and still like it and feel so inclined, consider posting a review online. Amazon is the best choice!

quote:
I really liked the inclusion of a voidsoul genasi; my reaction was along the lines of "Hey, someone else remembered those things exist!".
Totally. I love that combination.

quote:
There wouldn't happen to be a statblock for Sithe laying around anywhere, would there?
Why yes, actually. Check out the Exclusive Web Content (Free!) on my website.

quote:
Originally posted by LastStand

I enjoy books made of paper.
That said: I very much enjoyed Downshadow and might make an exception for Shadowbane.
So do I, and as I mentioned before, I'm keen on encouraging WotC to produce actual paper copies, whether individually, through Print-on-Demand, or as part of an omnibus. The key is making sure the books sell well, so that WotC decides they might be worth turning into paper copies.

I can't make any promises on this point, but the more copies you sell and the more reviews you post and the more people you hype the Shadowbane story to, the more likely it is that paper copies will get printed.

quote:
Originally posted by phranctoast

Any chance Shadowbane may make Rise of the Underdark, as Myrin seems like a perfect candidate to be coveted by the Drow now?

That's a compelling idea, and while there are no plans currently (WotC is pouring all its resources into this Sundering business), it's entirely possible you might see a story to that effect one day. If you've read SB: EOJ, then you know Myrin is *especially* closely linked with the drow in a particular way . . .

@Laeknir: I understand and respect that. Lots of those things either I or someone else is actively working to fix. (Specifically, I'm working on filling in the 100 year time skip at the moment, and their Sundering plan takes care of AO, the drow pantheon, the Spellplague, Abeir, and the divine combinations.) If at some point in the future you decide you want to come back, you're more than welcome, but until then, those of us designers/authors who are conscientious and care about the setting as deeply as you have will be working to earn your trust and support, just like with everyone else.

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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Firestorm
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Canada
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  16:42:50  Show Profile Send Firestorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never got around to it, but from all I have heard, I really want to read Downshadow and Shadowbane!

For some reason the chapters does not carry it and I have no spare cash at the moment(or time)
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  17:18:22  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

I never got around to it, but from all I have heard, I really want to read Downshadow and Shadowbane!
For some reason the chapters does not carry it and I have no spare cash at the moment(or time)
Alas, Downshadow is out of print by itself--if you want a physical copy, you probably have to buy the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep 1 omnibus (which contains Blackstaff Tower, Mistshore, and Downshadow)--and Shadowbane has no physical copy--you'd need to download that as an ebook to read it.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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Tanthalas
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  17:45:44  Show Profile Send Tanthalas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laeknir

Recent changes and plans haven't budged me on this, considering that not only are they keeping 4E as part of the timeline (...)


Deleting the Spellplague and everything that came after it would be simply horrible.

Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage".
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Erik Scott de Bie
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USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  18:03:04  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Regardless, WotC is NOT deleting the Spellplague or what came after. 5e embraces all lore from all editions and all eras.

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Erik Scott de Bie

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phranctoast
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  19:26:03  Show Profile Send phranctoast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
If you've read SB: EOJ, then you know Myrin is *especially* closely linked with the drow in a particular way . . .



I must have missed that.

EOJ Spoiler.

She seems linked to the shadow weave as well as the normal weave now after taking from Fox At Twilight.

I brought the Drow up since until EOJ, everyones been wanting to tap into her potential for magic and have been coveting her for that. I'm under the impression that she's one of the "blue flamed" items that contain Mystras essence and will be needed for Mystras resurrection.

Currently reading: Spider and Stone by Jaleigh Johnson: Sequel to Mistshore
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 12 Oct 2012 :  22:45:36  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting theories! Ah, Shadowbane 4 would answer so many questions. If only...

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Dennis
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  01:42:28  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Heh. You probably know my answer already before I even post it.
I'm partial to wizards, and usually dislike knights, paladins, and the like.
Oh indeed, Dennis, I know your tastes. No doubt you'll find nothing at all appealing about ruggedly sexy Kalen Dren and his increasing magical powers. Instead, I suggest you read the series for my amnesiac wizard Myrin who--as of Shadowbane--is an equally lead character. Sure, the series is named after Kalen, but we all know she's pretty awesome.

To paraphrase a line from Downshadow, when a freshly memory-less Myrin is eating morning feast with the other characters and she casually mage hands a spoon to herself, drawing incredulous stares: "What? Can't everyone do that?"

That's right. Where/when Myrin comes from, everyone CAN do that.

Cheers
You do realize that the paladin would most likely ruin my reading experience, right? That would be like the time I saw Meet the Fockers---the story's fun enough, with an amazing cast; except, Owen Wilson ruined it for me. Hated him.

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Firestorm
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  02:41:30  Show Profile Send Firestorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

I never got around to it, but from all I have heard, I really want to read Downshadow and Shadowbane!
For some reason the chapters does not carry it and I have no spare cash at the moment(or time)
Alas, Downshadow is out of print by itself--if you want a physical copy, you probably have to buy the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep 1 omnibus (which contains Blackstaff Tower, Mistshore, and Downshadow)--and Shadowbane has no physical copy--you'd need to download that as an ebook to read it.

Cheers


Well crap.

I need an old school book. Kindles and i do not get along. Not to mention all my money is going towards the twins right now. reading on the computer doesn't happen....usually all my reading is done on the bus and food breaks at work
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  03:09:01  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus

Started reading at Shadowbane without realizing it wasn't the first in the series- mainly picked it up due to it's Abyssal Plague connection.
Gotcha. Did it follow up on Sword of the Gods to your approval?


It was certainly interesting and painted a fairly horrific portrait of what the plague would do to a populous that was completely ignorant of it and unprepared to deal with it. Though I probably need to thumb through Sword of the Gods again because I remember Scour having been dealt with in that book via barrels of oil and fire.

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quote:
Have to tell you, Erik, I think you like the belligerent sexual tension trope considerably more than I do.
Heh, well there is a little of that. It's not the focus of the book, but yes, sexual tension is one of those things that drives a plot.


It's more the belligerence rather than the sexual tension that turns me off, but that's a personal quirk. I'm the kind of guy who, when I see two people arguing to hide the fact they're really into each other, I will loudly(and in less polite language) say "Get a room, you two!". I don't know; when I want someone, I go for them, and people who push the ones they want away I find hard to relate to.

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quote:
I'm not quite finished with it yet. Overall I find it enjoyable; I like that Kalen in't the biggest badass on the block, always good to find a protagonist that gets beaten down some.
Well, if you finish it and still like it and feel so inclined, consider posting a review online. Amazon is the best choice!


I'll let you know if I do.

quote:
quote:
I really liked the inclusion of a voidsoul genasi; my reaction was along the lines of "Hey, someone else remembered those things exist!".
Totally. I love that combination.


It's a shame they're undersupported, but they're certainly one of the more interesting player races. I'm curious; how much of Sithe' attitude is based on her nature as opposed to her upbringing and religion?

quote:
quote:
There wouldn't happen to be a statblock for Sithe laying around anywhere, would there?
Why yes, actually. Check out the Exclusive Web Content (Free!) on my website.


Thanks, that certainly helped.

I will say this; more than anything I loved the picture you painted of Luskan. If I ever get around to doing that "Many-Arrows invades and colonizes Luskan" plotline I was planning a couple years back, I'll probably end up modelling Luskan fairly close to what you've set up here.

Might even borrow Eden as an npc; been a while since I've read a villain that I hated for all the right reasons; strong, capable, intelligent, but petty, arrogant, and just a horribly flawed being. Have a tiefling avenger of Tymora who's got some dice to roll for her.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  03:59:09  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gimme wood smashed to pulp for my reading please.

I don't actually mind reading on a computer...but if I have a choice, it is paper for me all the way.

I'm slowly catching up on my reading; but fantasy has been taking a bit of a hit in my world...I'll get to reading the book "some day" I'm sure!

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  04:09:44  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paper is an eventual goal. Tell WotC that you want print on demand. They need to know people want physical books.

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  04:21:23  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Asmodeus's Homepage Send Chosen of Asmodeus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally I'm fine with e-books. Save a tree.

"Then I saw there was a way to Hell even from the gates of Heaven"
- John Bunyan, Pilgrim's Progress

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GRYPHON
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Posted - 13 Oct 2012 :  15:03:04  Show Profile  Visit GRYPHON's Homepage Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I want a physical copy...
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 14 Oct 2012 :  17:50:42  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

You do realize that the paladin would most likely ruin my reading experience, right?
I don't think that would happen, honestly. He's more a thief than a paladin, starts off with a persistent stoneskin effect, and as the story progresses, he can access some pretty awesome magical powers.

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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