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Demzer
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Posted - 28 Aug 2014 :  17:48:41  Show Profile Send Demzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The "Elder Rune" reference escapes me, though...



Maybe it's the proximity with "Larloch and it's liches" but i think the Elder Rune in question may be another name of the Runemasters of the Twisted Rune, after all in the 1370s Vaxall of the Undying Gaze was close to become one of the Runemasters, so i say that if the Elder Rune is the Twisted Rune's inner circle then that point has some eye tyrants working on it.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 28 Aug 2014 :  18:25:00  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Finally, a new article! And it's new beholder lore!

The Vellurith, Part One



I think Ed likes beholders.

The "Elder Rune" reference escapes me, though...

This article does give an idea, though -- one of the Hooks I wrote, back in the day, had a beholder acting strangely. Perhaps he is playing the Vellurith...

I also noted a beholder in this one who did not have the letter X in his name.



Might be a reference to the Twisted Rune?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Aug 2014 :  18:54:13  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have asked Ed.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Aug 2014 :  22:15:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And here's the answer:

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
Wooly, the "Elder Rune" is what the most senior members of the Twisted Rune call themselves, meaning "we who possess the most self-discipline and actually stick to very long term goals, rather than indulging in some of the excesses and short-term, 'grabby' pursuits of more junior members." Ed tells me you'll see one of those junior members in action in a future Elminster novel - - and added that "junior" is of course a relative term.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 29 Aug 2014 :  01:33:27  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like that he's going to feature the Twisted Rune in future fiction. Can't wait.

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Derulbaskul
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More than any other product penned by Ed, I want the ultimate guide to the beholders of Faerūn. I want every bit of lore he can possibly think of, including (and especially) the secrets of the beholders who backed Manshoon and the formation of the Zhentarim.

(On a related note, I would love to see a novel or trilogy of novels from Ed dealing with the revived post-Sundering Zhentarim with lots of beholders, menacing clerics of Bane, and displays of sheer competence. It's time the Zhentarim got their due!)

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D

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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Finally, a new article! And it's new beholder lore!

The Vellurith, Part One



I think Ed likes beholders.

The "Elder Rune" reference escapes me, though...

This article does give an idea, though -- one of the Hooks I wrote, back in the day, had a beholder acting strangely. Perhaps he is playing the Vellurith...

I also noted a beholder in this one who did not have the letter X in his name.



Might be a reference to the Twisted Rune?

Hasn't this reference to a section of the Twisted Rune as the "Elder Rune" popped up in prior Realmslore? It just reads like something I've seen before when reading up on the Rune Twisted Rune organisation.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Aug 2014 :  04:58:42  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I like that he's going to feature the Twisted Rune in future fiction. Can't wait.

-- George Krashos



Ditto. They're one of my fave evil groups in the Realms. And it'll be nice to see them get some airtime. Except for the Frostrune (don't call him that!), of course.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 30 Aug 2014 :  00:01:11  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I like that he's going to feature the Twisted Rune in future fiction. Can't wait.

-- George Krashos



Makes me wonder if the Eminence of Araunt won't have its upper echelon seized.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Sep 2014 :  13:01:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More beholder love from Ed...

The Vellurith, Part Two

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Sep 2014 :  18:08:12  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

More beholder love from Ed...

The Vellurith, Part Two



Some good stuff in this one, and it's given me a couple of ideas...

But this tidbit really got my attention, and raises my hopes:

quote:
Elminster has a notion that Khelben participated in reshaping the ongoing Vellurith in part because of what he foresaw for the Realms (the Sundering) and for himself (he may have wanted to provide a solution to his own future need to be reborn into a young, vigorous body).

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George Krashos
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Wonderful stuff. Ed just keeps rolling on.

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Oooo! That Khelben-tidbit is indeed a gem.

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Demzer
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Yeah, this beholder lore is great but ... the part about the Chosens meddling in this too irks me a lot, there is a little voice inside my head screaming "Why!?!?" and unknown-to-mortals pacts between deities are well and good but i'll respectfully leave the Chosens out of the Vellurith if it ever surfaces in my campaign world.
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Delwa
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Posted - 10 Sep 2014 :  21:31:33  Show Profile  Visit Delwa's Homepage Send Delwa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
New article up! I'm gonna go hide from the wrath of the Hamster now.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Delwa

New article up! I'm gonna go hide from the wrath of the Hamster now.

The Subterfuge of Art

(feel free to delete if I was out of line. )



No worries. Sage is the one who gets cranky if he's not the first.

I checked this morn; the article was not up, at that time... I've given up trying to figure out what their schedule is.

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Delwa
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Delwa

New article up! I'm gonna go hide from the wrath of the Hamster now.

The Subterfuge of Art

(feel free to delete if I was out of line. )



No worries. Sage is the one who gets cranky if he's not the first.

I checked this morn; the article was not up, at that time... I've given up trying to figure out what their schedule is.


Aye, it's sporadic. I am willing to guess they hired a Kender to post it, and the little guy only posts when he remembers he's got them in his pockets.

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The Sage
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*Wipes tear away from eye*

I do know that our dearly departed friend and fellow Candlekeep scribe, Jamallo Kreen, would've loved this newest article from Ed.

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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by Delwa

New article up! I'm gonna go hide from the wrath of the Hamster now.

The Subterfuge of Art

(feel free to delete if I was out of line. )



I really like this article. This has a lot of uses. I can easily see a certain NPC detective/priestess of Deneir of mine using these tricks.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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New article up today. "After the Fall" dealing with the aftermath of The Herald. :)
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Wooly Rupert
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They must have posted that one in the last hour or so... I checked the site shortly before going to lunch.

After the Fall

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Delwa
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

They must have posted that one in the last hour or so... I checked the site shortly before going to lunch.

After the Fall



Hmm. Ed seems to confirm that Larloch wasn't merely boasting about being a Chosen of Mystryl. Interesting... off to ponder.

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George Krashos
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Nice to see that Ed did to Shade what I encouraged WotC to do to it 14 years ago.

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I knew it! Ed told me long ago... that secrets of Larloch's special relationship with Mystryl would slowly be revealed. May this be the start of that.

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BenN
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Good to see that it closely corralates with the 'Ask Ed' scroll - i.e. about the survival of the Tree of Souls.
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