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Super Wizard II
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:18:34  Show Profile Send Super Wizard II a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi,
I was wondering why Wooly Rupert is such a d-bag? I put up a thread and he totally locked it down, TWICE! And then he banned my account or soethign and I had to make a new one... that's a reaaaallll drag.

I'm like, wtf, bro? Cuz I read the rules and my post ddidn't break any of 'em!

So I don't understand why Wooly Rupert has to act like such a d-bag...

Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:19:34  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Read the rules again.

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Super Wizard II
Acolyte

2 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:24:54  Show Profile Send Super Wizard II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Done bra.

I didn't break any.

You think I broke one?

Whch one, b?
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore

1338 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:27:12  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

5. Always be courteous and polite to other members, Wizards of the Coast (WotC) staff and freelance authors who are involved in the development of WotC material. Remember, some WotC employees are members of the forum. Openly attacking other members will result in the suspension of your account.


This one for starters...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
36779 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:27:17  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Insulting the scribes and the setting, and asking for info you stated you didn't need? If that's not being a troll, I'm not sure what is.

Create any more accounts, Super, and I'll ban them, as well.

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Artemas Entreri
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USA
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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:29:30  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mumadar beat me to it ;)

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Super Wizard III
Acolyte

1 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:35:37  Show Profile Send Super Wizard III a Private Message  Reply with Quote
K bro. But you are breaking the rules, not me. I didn't call you a dbag until you acted like a dbag.
You can be all w/e w/e, but you just dont like what I have to say so you shut me up.
W/e, bro, you can do what you want, it is ur website, but i dint break any rules and you know that

You KNOW it. Liar.


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Insulting the scribes and the setting, and asking for info you stated you didn't need? If that's not being a troll, I'm not sure what is.

Create any more accounts, Super, and I'll ban them, as well.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:38:28  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hopefully he has limited knowledge of the Roman Numeral system

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
36779 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:46:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Wizard III

K bro. But you are breaking the rules, not me. I didn't call you a dbag until you acted like a dbag.
You can be all w/e w/e, but you just dont like what I have to say so you shut me up.
W/e, bro, you can do what you want, it is ur website, but i dint break any rules and you know that

You KNOW it. Liar.


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Insulting the scribes and the setting, and asking for info you stated you didn't need? If that's not being a troll, I'm not sure what is.

Create any more accounts, Super, and I'll ban them, as well.





Only one response is appropriate:

Well, that and banning him again.

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Super Wizard IV
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  20:59:16  Show Profile Send Super Wizard IV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm reporting this to Alaundo via PM. You shouldn't ban people just because you don't like apost, bra.


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Super Wizard III

K bro. But you are breaking the rules, not me. I didn't call you a dbag until you acted like a dbag.
You can be all w/e w/e, but you just dont like what I have to say so you shut me up.
W/e, bro, you can do what you want, it is ur website, but i dint break any rules and you know that

You KNOW it. Liar.


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Insulting the scribes and the setting, and asking for info you stated you didn't need? If that's not being a troll, I'm not sure what is.

Create any more accounts, Super, and I'll ban them, as well.





Only one response is appropriate:

Well, that and banning him again.

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Super Wizard IV
Acolyte

1 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  21:03:59  Show Profile Send Super Wizard IV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Guess I better give Alaundo my email address so after you BAN me for NO GOOD REASON again he can get a hold of me.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
Moderator

USA
36779 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  21:10:53  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Wizard IV

Guess I better give Alaundo my email address so after you BAN me for NO GOOD REASON again he can get a hold of me.



Feel free to do so.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  21:59:44  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Insulting the scribes and the setting, and asking for info you stated you didn't need? If that's not being a troll, I'm not sure what is.

Create any more accounts, Super, and I'll ban them, as well.


So Wooly, when certain scribes are insulting the 4E Realms, they aren't trolling?





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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore

1965 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2012 :  22:20:20  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wish I could've brought THIS scroll back.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  00:35:17  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Super Wizard, you're embarrassing yourself.

The only thing you are really proving with all this commentary, is that you're a internet troll -- in every sense of the word.

So, and I mean this with the deepest of feelings... if you've nothing of positive productivity to contribute to this site, then move on elsewhere. I'm sure there are plenty of other locales on the web that would welcome your brand of intolerable nonsense.

To put it simply, we don't want you here any more. In ANY incarnation!

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Artemas Entreri
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USA
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  00:44:00  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Super Wizard, you're embarrassing yourself.

The only thing you are really proving with all this commentary, is that you're a internet troll -- in every sense of the word.

So, and I mean this with the deepest of feelings... if you've nothing of positive productivity to contribute to this site, then move on elsewhere. I'm sure there are plenty of other locales on the web that would welcome your brand of intolerable nonsense.

To put it simply, we don't want you here any more. In ANY incarnation!



Amen

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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  01:13:40  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just interjecting that user/profile identification methods (based on IP, MAC, reverse-DNS, proxy lookup, timedate query, etc) are just as effective at burning trolls as they are at killing spambots.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  02:11:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

Just interjecting that user/profile identification methods (based on IP, MAC, reverse-DNS, proxy lookup, timedate query, etc) are just as effective at burning trolls as they are at killing spambots.

I've already queried Alaundo on employing those exact methods for some of our more "difficult" scribes, along with a select range of other policies that might help negate these unfortunate disruptions.

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Ayrik
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Canada
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  03:53:52  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's good to know, Sage.

I'll repeat my suggestion from another scroll, even though it's rather distasteful:

When members are BANNED - most especially if for <ahem> trolling - their post count should be reduced to 0, their title changed to "Banned", and all their posts replaced with "Removed by mods because violated site CoC" or whatever.

Yes, this is indeed a slippery slope ... but it is marginally effective on other forums. The persistent trolls tend to want to have a lingering presence, to have people continue to discuss their inflammatory posts indefinitely. Being denied attention, existence, or recognition of any kind is often enough to drive them elsewhere. I say that if you're gonna go downhill on a slippery slope then at least do it right and use a snowboard!

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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USA
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  04:38:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

That's good to know, Sage.

I'll repeat my suggestion from another scroll, even though it's rather distasteful:

When members are BANNED - most especially if for <ahem> trolling - their post count should be reduced to 0, their title changed to "Banned", and all their posts replaced with "Removed by mods because violated site CoC" or whatever.

Yes, this is indeed a slippery slope ... but it is marginally effective on other forums. The persistent trolls tend to want to have a lingering presence, to have people continue to discuss their inflammatory posts indefinitely. Being denied attention, existence, or recognition of any kind is often enough to drive them elsewhere. I say that if you're gonna go downhill on a slippery slope then at least do it right and use a snowboard!



Some of the folks who have since been banned have offered some good input, before going astray. We've had more than one person who ranked up a few hundred posts before their antagonistic nature became apparent, or who were not that bad up until a certain point. I'm not one to dismiss good input from someone because their later input was offensive...

Most of the inflammatory posts don't get much more attention other than the verbal equivalent of a roll of the eyes. And I personally think that simply marginalizing such behavior is an effective way to handle it.

I could have deleted more of SuperWizzie's posts (I did remove a few)... But most of these posts will be buried by more recent -- and more productive -- talk within days. It will be marginalized and forgotten, a worthy fate for such drivel.

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  04:49:36  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

When members are BANNED - most especially if for <ahem> trolling - their post count should be reduced to 0, their title changed to "Banned", and all their posts replaced with "Removed by mods because violated site CoC" or whatever.
While I agree that this would be a sound strategy, I'm not entirely comfortable, personally, with censoring such past content. If it's wholly disruptive and/or vile, then by all means, I would remove such commentary.

But, in most cases, I prefer the role of a Moderator who largely acts as a Mediator. When we start getting into the dynamics of censoring/editing select commentary here, it becomes a slippery slope, as you so rightly point out, Ayrik. I'm not comfortable with the notion of where the line should be drawn against what should be censored and what should be left wholly intact.

I realise that may be a stance that some scribes might not particularly like from their Moderators. And, if any of you feel like addressing this issue with me, then I'll welcome any further discussion of it. Ultimately, we serve in the best interests of the whole community. So if any of you are uncertain or unhappy with our methods of Moderation, then please share your concerns with us.

We invite you, in fact... because in these trying times of edition-debates and so forth, I'm afraid the patience of our collective will be tested again and again. Thus, we need feedback to ensure we're keeping up on what may be causing disruptions here, and whether our measures are truly working efficiently to ensure a pleasant and respectful environment for friendly Realms chatter.

Have at it, I say!

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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  06:48:36  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I apologize, Wooly and Sage for attempting to make light of the situation. I generally don't feed in to the more heated debates here. I know that your job here is oft difficult, but I feel as if you are doing an outstanding job. Opinions differ and tempers flare and some people cannot resist stirring the pot for whatever misguided reason. My thanks to you two.

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"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  07:04:26  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No apologise is necessary, Fellfire. Sometimes a little jocularity works wonders, and we certainly appreciate those scribes who enjoy making light of tense situations... when appropriate.

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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  09:43:10  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just for the record. I like Wooly Rupert.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  10:51:18  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn

Just for the record. I like Wooly Rupert.




I'm rather fond of him, myself.


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Light
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Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  13:15:36  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is the best thread I've read all day. It makes me wonder though how long the arm of Super Wizard reaches. What will his next incarnation be? Perhaps "Gaffax" (the newest member as of 23:19 EST January 27) is in fact Super. Indeed, maybe he is the puppet master who secretly controls Candlekeep without anyone knowing. Maybe 95% of the users who post in the scrolls are in fact "Super Wizard". This very scroll may be nothing but Super's many profiles posting in answer to each other. Truly a sad life he must lead.

"A true warrior needs no sword" - Thors (Vinland Saga)

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  14:10:00  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*I* am Super Wizard! [/Spartacus]


(no, not really)

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  15:27:26  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a Wizard, he's a Wizard, wouldn't you like to be a Wizard, too?

(Old Dr. Pepper commercial, in case you don't catch the reference )

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  18:29:05  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, * I * am Super Wizard, and my wife is, too!
love,
THO
Who is JUST KIDDING. With a nod to Python.
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Kajehase
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Posted - 27 Jan 2012 :  19:45:15  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'M A DUCK!!

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Thelonius
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Yah and I'm the Black Beast of Arghhhhhh.... sorry I don't like to intervene in these threads but I felt just like refering to Monthy Python aswell...

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