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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Oct 2012 :  21:55:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Well, barring unforeseen mischance (to borrow one of Ed's favourite phrases), Ed will be at World Fantasy AND SfContario3, during the first two weekends of November. However, I won't be () thanks to being on assignment during that time. Sigh.
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  03:13:53  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Greetings Ed,

I've been rereading some of the great lore-filled entries in Pages from the Mages, when I happened upon a little tidbit that might prove to be something of an interesting addition for my current campaign. So, to add yet-another-question to my growing eight-year's worth of queries pending for Ed's answer...

From the entry on "The Shadowtome," you make reference to a group of merchant-mages operating in Calimshan known as 'the Brothers Six.' What more can you share with me about them -- and, also, about their operations both in and around Calimport before they were slain by Khelben?

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  04:27:49  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Sage, Ed is deep in a certain writing project right now, but I can share two things about the Brothers Six:
1. They were all Calishites, but they weren't real brothers, and one of them wasn't even male, though she kept this secret from everyone except the two fellow Brothers she'd had an affair with, and her closest maidservant.
2. They were involved in many legitimate and illicit (swindles, smuggling, and dealing in stolen goods) business dealings, and one of their most interesting legitimate ones was breeding larger and less bony edible fish, using magic to try to "shift the breed" (genetically modify) their fish stocks (they controlled saltwater pens of fish just offshore in the Lake of Steam near Yeshpek). They also, at one time, owned most of the brothels in Almraiven.

However, this is all I have (from things let slip by a talkative sage we interviewed, in-character), so for their doings around Calimport, we'll have to await Ed's wise counsel.
love,
THO
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LadyRhian
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  12:07:44  Show Profile  Visit LadyRhian's Homepage  Send LadyRhian an AOL message Send LadyRhian a Private Message
Thank you very much for the quickie answer, THO! That's incredibly helpful. :) And whenever Ed gets a free moment to rub two braincells together. :) Tell him we all wish him the best on what he's occupied with.
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Infamous
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Posted - 27 Oct 2012 :  09:03:49  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Hi everyone,


Here's a question for Ed and the Lady of the Hood:

When the Weave (and Mystra) was mostly gone during the Spellplague, how did Elminster, Storm and others avoid the effects of aging?

A related question is Elminster's relationship to his aging body (before certain events). Storm is supple and athletic, but El suffers with his old sack of bones. How so? She is roughly half his age; she feels like a supple girl of twenty; and neither one has been actually aging...

This could be quite useful information. If there are ways to keep people alive during the 100-year jump, maybe we can still use a few favorite NPCs — great characters taken away from our Realms by a century of natural aging, which is a major loss.


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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Oct 2012 :  16:01:21  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Infamous, your questions ask about matters that have been extensive discussed among we Knights (Ed's players), with Ed, and even more extensively discussed by various Wizards staffers and Realms freelancers. Many of the answers are NDA, but in general: the Chosen carry some of Mystra's silver fire within them (part of her divine power). She cannot wrest it from them, nor can anyone else, directly, though a damaged/dying Chosen will "leak" it out, to return to the Weave (Mystra) if it isn't captured by someone else.
So the short, simplified, stickhandling around NDAs answer is that silver fire within them prevents Chosen from aging.

As for El feeling "on his last legs" while Storm doesn't: Storm casts very little magic, relative to all the other Chosen except Dove. So she "wears out" her body, and depletes her silver fire, FAR less than el, one of the most magically active of the Chosen. Storm is in such good shape at the time of ELMINSTER MUST DIE! that she can act as an "anchor" for El during spellcasting that would otherwise leave him raving-insane.

And as for favourite characters surviving the century of "skipped over" Realms time: Ed and others have already presented, in fiction and in articles, literally dozens of ways that characters can survive the time jump. Trapped in magic items, caught in stasis, "hung up" during a jaunt between gates/portals, magically transformed into something enduring for most of that time, and so on...
And yes, being in contact with silver fire (even if it's just in an item carried on the character's body or that is daily near to the character - - such as under their bed or on the mantel ) would enable even an entirely unwitting mortal to survive long years, beyond their normal lifespan...
[[This has been Ed's favourite way of having long-lived NPCs: wizards, sages, and others who possess rings or other items that trap tiny amounts of silver fire, and so keep them alive for decades longer than usual, because they age very, very slowly...]]

So there you have about as much as Ed can share, paraphrased by me (because it comes from my notes of what he said).
love,
THO
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Infamous
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Posted - 27 Oct 2012 :  16:12:55  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
Wow. Fascinating answer, Lady THO. Thank you so much.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 27 Oct 2012 :  17:46:10  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, everybody.
Sage, a postscript re. the Brothers Six: they controlled (but tried to keep secret their involvement in) a kidnapping-for-hire service operating in Calimshan and Tethyr, whose clients were mainly nobility and ambitious merchants seeking to "get rid of" rivals.
(Just found another note I made, from Realmsplay with Ed as DM.)
love,
THO
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  03:19:14  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message
Hello THO and Ed,

Ed, could you please tell us more about Lythton wine (as mentioned in the recipe list on page 87 of Elminster's Forgotten Realms), assuming it's not a real-world wine, but one native to the Realms?

Thank you!

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Infamous
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  09:34:53  Show Profile Send Infamous a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. Infamous, your questions ask about matters that have been extensive discussed among we Knights (Ed's players), with Ed, and even more extensively discussed by various Wizards staffers and Realms freelancers. Many of the answers are NDA ... the short, simplified, stickhandling around NDAs answer is that silver fire within them prevents Chosen from aging.




This is more revealing than I thought. If silver fire remains active even when the Weave is torn, even when the Goddess of Magic is gone, and it is still powerful enough to prevent aging... Then Mystra's energy is never really gone from the world, even in critically adverse conditions. This changes the way I see the Goddess.

The implicit idea is that her ancient blessings last through time. If Storm can still call upon silver fire even after the spellplague, a former Chosen of Mystryl could call upon it too, and in this way, still be faintly but intrinsically connected to She Who Is Magic.

It may be far-fatched, but I'm having fun.

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Faraer
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Posted - 30 Oct 2012 :  03:10:34  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Infamous
Then Mystra's energy is never really gone from the world, even in critically adverse conditions. This changes the way I see the Goddess.

It's always been the main reason for the Chosen of Mystra's existence, and perhaps the single biggest nonsensicality of the Spellplague scenario in in-Realms terms.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 31 Oct 2012 :  01:04:29  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
Hi Ed and THO

I've just received my paperback copy of "Bury Elminster Deep" which I purchased for the nifty mini-map of a section of Suzail and the front chapter flavour quotes that were inexplicably missing from the flagship hardcover version.

In skimming through it, I noticed that Ch.28 has a reference to a ballad by Mintiper Moonsilver titled "My Lady of Ghosts" first performed in the Year of the Bright Blade. Ch. 29 refers to a ballad by the bard Zaroanra Deltree also called "My Lady of Ghosts" first performed in the Year of Rogue Dragons.

Is this a case of two bards independently writing songs which coincidentally have the same title, or is there an error here?

Just wondering ...

-- George Krashos

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Edited by - George Krashos on 31 Oct 2012 01:05:25
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 31 Oct 2012 :  01:31:37  Show Profile  Visit Dalor Darden's Homepage Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
Back in 2010, I got a really nice bit of information about Tel Verinal beneath the Moonsea...and to follow up on that: When was Tel Verinal "founded" or started if you will? Approximately is fine, I just need to know a rough estimate.

Related to that, have the Drow of this place had any/much influence on the Twisted Tower?

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Eldacar
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Posted - 31 Oct 2012 :  08:16:42  Show Profile  Visit Eldacar's Homepage  Click to see Eldacar's MSN Messenger address Send Eldacar a Private Message
I've got a brief question of a Sharessan/Sunite nature, specifically regarding crossover between the two faiths. I apologise in advance if these questions have been raised in the past, or if they're answered somewhere in the published Realmslore that I haven't found.

In general, have there been particular cults or factions within the churches of either Sharess or Sune in the past that believed the two deities to be one and the same, or for one to be a derivative of the other? This may or may not wind up as a "heresy" of some type (in the sense that whatever group of mortals who believed it would be deemed heretics by the larger body of the faith), but I'd imagine that there could well have been some degree of crossover between cults/factions in the past that had similar alignments/goals. Sharess is mentioned as sharing an alliance/friendship with Sune, and Sune also freed Sharess from her dominance by Shar during the Time of Troubles, so they're not exactly opposed. If anything, this would suggest to me that they are quite closely aligned.

Do any of those factions still exist (again, assuming they do in the first place) in any great numbers in the Realms circa 1358-1370 DR, and if they do, could Ed give any details on them and their particular cult practice (and how it differs from "regular" Sunite/Sharessan religious festival/ritual)? Sharess has what is said in Faiths and Pantheons to be a "casually organised church" and Sune's is likewise "loose and informal" (with regularly changing leadership as well), so it seems unlikely (again, to me) that there would be a staunch divide, but I'd expect some degree of difference between the two all the same.

How would such crossover-belief be treated after death with regard to the patron deity if indeed one thought Sharess and Sune to be the same, or Sharess to be another part of Sune? Would they simply be False, or would either Sharess or Sune step in and accept them?

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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 31 Oct 2012 :  22:08:30  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Well met again

I have a feeling this has been addressed before, but I can't figure out how to go searching for it.

When I look at the Inner Sea, I see five reaches: the Dragon Reach and the Easting Reach on the north, the Wizards' Reach where I spend most of my time, the Vilhon Reach, and a fifth reach between Sembia and Gulthmere. This fifth reach is unnamed on all the maps I've seen. The Dragonmere is to the west, and empties *into* this reach via the Neck, but it isn't the reach itself. I'm reluctant to call this entire expanse "Starmantle Bay." Please feel free to call me silly if I'm missing or forgetting something... but otherwise: does this reach have a name?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 :  01:28:50  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all!
xaeyruudh, you have stumbled upon a reach that has several competing names: "Starmantle Reach" is the oldest, most poetic, and most widespread, but Westgate has always vastly preferred either "West Reach" or "Westgate Reach," and of course to Sembians, it's "the Sembian Sea" or "sea of Sembia."
So most maps just leave it blank.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 :  01:32:31  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again! More from Ed...

Jeremy Grenemyer, Ed promises he'll spill more (sorry!) about Lythton wine when he returns from World Fantasy, but he says your assumption is indeed correct: "it's not a real-world wine, but one native to the Realms," indeed.
And my notes say: "a dry white," but that's literally all I have, and must stress that was overheard gossip among merchants (i.e. Ed voicing a NPC, not Ed as omniscient explanatory DM).
So, more soon to come . . .
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 :  01:41:29  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
And yet more, this time to Krash:

Sorry, George. I, too, fume about the lack of maps and chapterhead quotes in the hardcover editions of the books. The maps get shrunk and lose a lot of keyed elements (and sometimes get strange changes made, too, vis-a-vis other Realms products), too.
I know Ed isn't all that pleased about it, either; he'd rather have a short-short story added to the pbks and have the chapterheads and maps in both editions.
Ah, well . . .
As for the two ballads with the same names you spotted, it's not a mistake, but imitation/flattery: Deltree composing a ballad that echoes the famous earlier Mintiper work. Which is something I'll get Ed to explain in proper detail when he's back from WFC, because it IS confusing without the lore explanation attached (he DID write one and attach it, but such things fly away in editing, they do . . .)
love,
THO
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2012 :  02:12:33  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Many thanks!

And how's the weather lately up there in the great white north? Everybody safe?
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Nov 2012 :  00:46:19  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
Maerun Stoutbold... in the original gray box (p 33) he was Maerim, but in FR Adventures (p 92) and Volo's Guide to Cormyr (p 220) he's Maerun. Is Maerun correct?

And on a related subject, is there a rule of thumb regarding which sources should take precedence in cases of typos or editorial hiccups? Newer sources over older ones is reasonable, but often incorrect.

So far I've been prioritizing older sources over newer ones because I'm biased toward the original lore, and away from the "bigger!" inflation of levels and populations and power that have plagued the Realms since the arrival of 2e. In the case of a certain Ledigleer in Waterdeep I recall Steven recently saying that one source should be believed over another because it was proofread more carefully. That sort of situation is invisible to us as customers, so are we just stuck asking specifically about any and all discrepancies? Not that that's a *terrible* thing, just wondering if there's some method to the madness (or more likely the other way around).

The reason for my asking about the weather is that I read that an Ontario man had died while repairing damage done in the storm. Now I'm seeing that he was the second Canadian to be killed in the storm. And of course there's a whole ton of people without power.

Hoping you and your families are alright.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

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Posted - 03 Nov 2012 :  16:49:49  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Someday - if I ever get to another Gencon - I will have to corner Ed and ask him all my questions regarding the Inner sea. The man is so insanely busy I hate the idea of taking up any of his valuable time, but there are certain... subjects... that get repeated far to often in Realmslore for it all to be coincidence. I was looking at the map I made for Erik Boyb last night and suddenly realized the name of the vale directly below The High Forest once again repeat the 'theme'.

All the other designers (and employees) kept me quite busy and happy, but be WARNED - I won't be so 'in the background' next time.

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

As for El feeling "on his last legs" while Storm doesn't: Storm casts very little magic, relative to all the other Chosen except Dove. So she "wears out" her body, and depletes her silver fire, FAR less than el, one of the most magically active of the Chosen. Storm is in such good shape at the time of ELMINSTER MUST DIE! that she can act as an "anchor" for El during spellcasting that would otherwise leave him raving-insane.
More of a commentary then a question -

I get the idea from this that Silver Fire/Spellfire is something like a muscle (or organ, etc) - the more you use it, the more powerful it becomes. I had attributed this to experience of the wielder, but I think it goes a bit beyond that - it actually becomes stronger, doesn't it?

Question: I just finished Crown of Fire (I managed to pickup a box of old Harper novels cheap at Gencon), and although I loved the book, I am a bit confused (did I just hear Ed sigh? ) In that short story where Elminster 'confronts' Larloch, The Lich asks to touch the Silver Fire. Its Obvious (to me) that it is supposed to be a touching scene - Larloch was showing a very rare glimpse of his own 'inner turmoil'. I had thought - from that - that undead have a problem with Silver Fire.

In the novel I just finished, the Lich Lord Iliph Thraun had Spellfire (I assume in life), and was trying to get it back (by taking it from Shandril). He did manage to get a nice chunk of it - why didn't it destroy him? Is Spellfire different then Silver Fire?

Is Silver Fire a more... refined(?)... form of Spellfire? (perhaps 'distilled' might have been a better word). I fear I may be treading into the Weave/Arcane/Raw/Whole magic debacle with this.

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Edited by - Markustay on 03 Nov 2012 16:51:41
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Nov 2012 :  20:19:35  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message
A question to Ed: Do the Realmsians prefer internment or cremation?

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rjfras
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Posted - 04 Nov 2012 :  01:13:38  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zireael

A question to Ed: Do the Realmsians prefer internment or cremation?



It greatly varies, check Ed's reply on this subject from July 14, 2005 in the So Saith Ed archives or in the 2005 question section of the forums, but his answer starts out as

quote:
Things vary so much across the Realms that it’s difficult to give any valid overall answer to your questions.

However, in general, burial matters in cities and large towns across Faerűn “work like this:”


He gives a few cities as examples.


Then again on October 24th again in 2005, he answers the same question about 10 deities. This one starts out as:

quote:
Ed of the Greenwood replies to Jindael’s question about specific churches of Faerűn and their use (or not) of crypts for the dead (Kuje, this touches on some of your long-awaited rituals “wants,” too), and here’s Ed’s reply:
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JPDeed
Acolyte

Australia
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Posted - 05 Nov 2012 :  06:47:59  Show Profile Send JPDeed a Private Message
Hi THO/ED,

Just south of the Dragon Coast, squashed between The Giant's Run Mts and The Lake of the Long Arm lies a patch of land that my players are interested in. I have a few questions regarding it to fill in the gaps for them (circa 1372ish):

- What are the weather patterns in this area, and how extreme do the seasons become?
- Is this arable, farm-worthy land / badlands / a Northern arm of the Shining Plains, and is it populated by humans/humanoids at all?
- It seems that the trade route north to south through there could be very valuable to control - is the area claimed by anyone/anything?
- What would be the primary dangers (competitors/monstrous inhabitants) in this area for adventurers interested in forging their own kingdom there?

Cheers!
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Nov 2012 :  20:03:36  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message
Tantam All

In light of the latest article by Ed on forging the Realms, can you add a bit 'more meat to the bones' regarding the two Shadowdale guards Tharth and Brengur mentioned in said article?

Kind regards

Damian

So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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