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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Sep 2012 :  15:05:05  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
After reading Elminster Enraged, I'm left with a burning question....

what happened to Fred? Can Ed share anymore about his past, like before becoming El's pipe? His "proper" name /nature. Or what the Simbul called him? I understand it's not near as flattering? Is that just good natured ribbing or did she have a history with "Fred"?


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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe

France
165 Posts

Posted - 20 Sep 2012 :  18:24:20  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
I'm greatly ashamed of bathering Ed with a question like that but there it is :
In the Dock Ward of Waterdeep, there's an alley called "Pressbow alley". What is a pressbow ? Is that a name ? My english-to-french doesn't give me the signifiance of such thing/name.

And yes, I'm interested in the origin of the name of a few of Waterdeep's streets as far as my players runs into it. So I'll probably be back with some similar questions about the name of certain Waterdeep's alleys.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5036 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  16:34:19  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all!
Interested gamers within reach of Peterborough, Ontario are reminded that Ed will as usual be the/a Guest of Honour at Phantasm, the annual gaming convention held in the basement of the Peterborough Public Library on Aylmer Street from 10am (I think) this Saturday (Sept. 22nd) until midnight, and 8 am until around 6 pm Sunday. Ed will give his usual talk and Q&A Saturday night, and run a (new, but 2nd Edition) Realms scenario, ELMINSTER'S EYEBALL, from 8 am until noon Sunday (quite suitable for novices to the game).
Phantasm is a small, cozy, fun local con with plenty of gaming; it's friendly, informal, and everything's in one place (vendors, gaming, washrooms, the con staff selling snack food). A great chance to really meet and talk.
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  16:47:21  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
And hi, again, everyone! With the public relations announcement taken care of, it's back to Realmslore.
So here we go...

To The Red Walker: yes, The Simbul has a history with El's pipe. No, I can't say more, and probably neither can Ed (yep, NDA). So, yes, it's good-natured ribbing, but there's more behind that. We'll see what Ed can reveal.

To Marco Volo: a "pressbow" is a crude factory machine based on an oversized stationary crossbow, its force used not to fire quarrels/bolts but to operate sharp metal stamps to cut leather or soft metals or wax or even cheese. Pressbows were invented (or refined, depending on whom you believe) by a gnome leatherworker named Albryn Telnhand in a workshop along Pressbow Alley around 1226 DR or so. They are still used today, though largely superceded by "stamping mills" that use cranked weights (descending atop a long cutting bar like a guillotine fashioned for lopping off a dozen heads in a row at once) to drive multiple cutters in a single descent.
(This comes straight from Ed's notes.)

Kajehase, when is the "these days" you refer to? If it's 1479 DR and the thirty-some years preceding it, there's very little open piracy in Waterdeep's harbor or nearby, but there's lots of smuggling, kidnapping, fencing of stolen goods, etc. in Waterdeep's harbor, specifically in the district of Mistshore, so vividly brought to life in Jaleigh Johnson's MISTSHORE novel.

That's all for now, folks. Ed is deeply immersed in at least two projects right now . . .
love,
THO

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  16:58:05  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And hi, again, everyone! With the public relations announcement taken care of, it's back to Realmslore.
So here we go...

To The Red Walker: yes, The Simbul has a history with El's pipe. No, I can't say more, and probably neither can Ed (yep, NDA). So, yes, it's good-natured ribbing, but there's more behind that. We'll see what Ed can reveal.
....
love,
THO





Thanks Lovely One...it's not much, but it is more than I knew!

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Cassie5squared
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  22:53:51  Show Profile Send Cassie5squared a Private Message
Another question for Ed, this time on behalf of a friend; in the time of Azoun IV's reign, what would be the likelihood of a non-noble-born person being granted a knighthood and/or title? (The character is a half-orc born in Cormyr, with one human Cormyrean parent.) She mostly wants to know if it's at all plausible.

Thanking both Ed and Lady THO in advance!

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As chance would have it
The Soulforged will come into light~" - Blind Guardian, "The Soulforged"
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Markustay
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Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  23:34:29  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
I received a reply (sort of) from Brian Cortijo regarding Cormyr's nobility. Rather then continue down that train of thought, I am inspired to ask a more general question on the subject:

Kings create nobility, correct? Just like our RW? I understand that in Cormyr ONLY the king may create new nobility (or strip a family of its titles). How does it work elsewhere in the Realms? Are the nobles of one realm accorded equal status in another realm? Kingdoms are rising and falling all the time in FR - some of them quite tiny - are those kings actually recognized as nobility by others? Is there some sort of 'waiting period'? How about folks ennobled by these 'petty kings'? If someone sets themselves up as a king, and makes his constituents all nobles, will the heralds at some point actually recognize all of those noble houses? How does Waterdeep get nobles?

How does this work? Seems to me, anyone with a sword, some friends, and the will to do so can make themselves a noble, or even a king. Is this why the 'status' of nobility is so much less then that of our own RW medieval period? (That they are really just commoners with fancy titles?)

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Edited by - Markustay on 21 Sep 2012 23:37:44
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Sep 2012 :  23:55:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Oooh, great question!
dravenloft, I can clearly recall a sudden fad among adventurers in the Moonsea North, Dales, Sembia, Cormyr, and Lake of Dragons area, in 1357 DR, for using bucklers (the small, round, hand-sized shields). Great in unexpected duels or close-quarters taverm brawls, but of less utility against orcs or barbarians whaling away at you with huge axes or two-handed swords.
That fad was followed by a fashion that lasted for four years (and in some cases clung for another decade or so) for wearing a huge plate-armored "battle arm" (sleeve, fastened at shoulder and wrist, and covering one arm in a properly-jointed but massively armored [[and adorned]] assembly of overlapping and sliding armor plates that covered one arm from shoulder to wrist. Worn even with festive clothing, not just "when armored and ready for war."
As the creator of all of this, Ed can, of course, elaborate.
love,
THO



I quite liked this tidbit from the other day, and mentioned in an email to Ed that I was making a dwarf NPC with a battle arm. He added:

quote:
Ah, yes, battle arms. Remember that they are great places to wear hidden keys, lockpicks, pionards and "knitting needle daggers," and for a dwarf to latch a detachable drinking-cup to . . . :}


I'm sure there will be still more to follow, but -- as we all know -- Edlore must be shared!

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Sightless
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Posted - 22 Sep 2012 :  00:03:39  Show Profile Send Sightless a Private Message
Battle arms... "Haziki Ktzi?" I wonder if any of them had "fetchers and Breakers" attached to the battle arm.

There's nothing wrong in transporting something from reality into FR, is there?

*darts head back and forth listening for the sound of arms raised to hurl foodstuffs in general direction*

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Sep 2012 :  01:58:38  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Kings create nobility, correct? Just like our RW? I understand that in Cormyr ONLY the king may create new nobility (or strip a family of its titles). How does it work elsewhere in the Realms? Are the nobles of one realm accorded equal status in another realm? Kingdoms are rising and falling all the time in FR - some of them quite tiny - are those kings actually recognized as nobility by others? Is there some sort of 'waiting period'? How about folks ennobled by these 'petty kings'? If someone sets themselves up as a king, and makes his constituents all nobles, will the heralds at some point actually recognize all of those noble houses? How does Waterdeep get nobles?
Granted, I'm going from [probably faulty] memories, but wasn't there a section in Power of Faerūn that sort of dealt with this, Markus?

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Markustay
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Posted - 22 Sep 2012 :  02:11:23  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
I wouldn't know.

Thats one tome I never bothered with. I'll have to look into it - thanks Sage.

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Sep 2012 :  03:11:32  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
It's been a while since I've read it, but I do distinctly recall the "Order in the Court" chapter offering tidbits of Realmslore on how the process of achieving nobility often works in places like Waterdeep and Cormyr.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Sep 2012 :  19:02:36  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Ed is off at Phantasm right now, but I'll try a quick'n'dirty set of replies to Markustay until Ed gets back to properly reply...
"Kings create nobility, correct?"
No. Heralds and local laws/customs recognize nobles. Monarchs create NEW nobles.
"Just like our RW?"
Differs from country to country in our RW.
"I understand that in Cormyr ONLY the king may create new nobility (or strip a family of its titles). How does it work elsewhere in the Realms?"
Differently. In all sorts of ways, from place to place.
"Are the nobles of one realm accorded equal status in another realm?"
Usually not. Money talks, so wealthy nobles may be fawned over by innkeepers, et al, but that's a different thing.
"Kingdoms are rising and falling all the time in FR - some of them quite tiny - are those kings actually recognized as nobility by others?"
No.
"Is there some sort of 'waiting period'? How about folks ennobled by these 'petty kings'? If someone sets themselves up as a king, and makes his constituents all nobles, will the heralds at some point actually recognize all of those noble houses?"
Yes, at some point the heralds will. They "keep score," because disputes are many.
"How does Waterdeep get nobles?"
That's VERY complicated, and Ed has addressed it in print. Here at the Keep, years back, and in several sources since (incl. Power of Faerun).
"How does this work? Seems to me, anyone with a sword, some friends, and the will to do so can make themselves a noble, or even a king. Is this why the 'status' of nobility is so much less then that of our own RW medieval period? (That they are really just commoners with fancy titles?)"
Yes, and yes. :} Yet Ed should really address all the nuances of this one.
love,
THO
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rjfras
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Posted - 23 Sep 2012 :  04:37:05  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message
My question concerns the three spring festivals, Imbolic, Greengrass and Beltane, especially Greengrass.

In the northern part of Faerun, Greengrass is the official beginning of spring, a day of relaxation. Flowers that have been carefully grown in the inner rooms of the keeps and temples during the winter are blessed and cast out upon the snow to bring rich growth in the season ahead.

Are these three holidays observed in a place like Sammaresh in Lapaliiya which is warm/hot all year and if so, what differences are there in the celebrations?

Thanks.
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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Sep 2012 :  18:54:41  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Thank you for that quick response THO...

...and that other response as well.

All excellent information, and I am looking forward to anything Ed would like to add.

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Kajehase
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Sweden
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Posted - 23 Sep 2012 :  20:06:57  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

How does this work? Seems to me, anyone with a sword, some friends, and the will to do so can make themselves a noble, or even a king. Is this why the 'status' of nobility is so much less then that of our own RW medieval period? (That they are really just commoners with fancy titles?)



The original way to become a noble in Sweden was to be able to provide a man in full knightly armour with a horse whenever the king mustered the troops - so at least in these parts you didn't need the friends.

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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Sep 2012 :  22:06:22  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Well... yeah... thats how it began just about everywhere. It became much more complicated later on. Once the church got involved, the whole thing turned into a convoluted mess (as did everything else).

At this point, I think the 'Age of Chivalry' is just a myth. It should have been called 'the Age of jerks'. I think Game of Thrones is a much more accurate portrayal of how things really were then any king Arthur-type tales.

Do Cormyrian nobles have any responsibilities, at all?

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rjfras
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Posted - 24 Sep 2012 :  00:16:48  Show Profile  Visit rjfras's Homepage Send rjfras a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rjfras

My question concerns the three spring festivals, Imbolic, Greengrass and Beltane, especially Greengrass.

In the northern part of Faerun, Greengrass is the official beginning of spring, a day of relaxation. Flowers that have been carefully grown in the inner rooms of the keeps and temples during the winter are blessed and cast out upon the snow to bring rich growth in the season ahead.

Are these three holidays observed in a place like Sammaresh in Lapaliiya which is warm/hot all year and if so, what differences are there in the celebrations?

Thanks.



A follow-up to this question. What kinds of flowers would be used in these celebrations around Sammaresh? Are there any new realms flowers from this area you could tell us about and are they edible to humans?
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CorellonsDevout
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Sep 2012 :  05:32:43  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message
Hey Ed and THO!

I was just wondering what kind of music Ed likes to listen to (if any) when he is writing?

Sweet water and light laughter
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe

France
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Posted - 24 Sep 2012 :  07:51:30  Show Profile Send Marco Volo a Private Message
quote:
a "pressbow" is a crude factory machine based on an oversized stationary crossbow, its force used not to fire quarrels/bolts but to operate sharp metal stamps to cut leather or soft metals or wax or even cheese. Pressbows were invented (or refined, depending on whom you believe) by a gnome leatherworker named Albryn Telnhand in a workshop along Pressbow Alley around 1226 DR or so. They are still used today, though largely superceded by "stamping mills" that use cranked weights (descending atop a long cutting bar like a guillotine fashioned for lopping off a dozen heads in a row at once) to drive multiple cutters in a single descent.
(This comes straight from Ed's notes.)

I understand now why my dictionary didn't have such unformation about "pressbow"
Great thanks Ed and THO ! See you
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 24 Sep 2012 :  16:17:45  Show Profile  Click to see Barastir's MSN Messenger address Send Barastir a Private Message
Dear Ed and THO,

I was reading the "Jonah and the Whale" story, and the prophet bought his passage from Jope to Tarsis. This made me wonder one thing: how much would people pay to travel by ship through the Realms? I know it would depend on the ship, distance, time of travel, and maybe even on the weather, so I'll specify a little more: how much a passage would cost from Waterdeep: to the Moonshaes; to Neverwinter; to Luskan and; to Baldur's Gate, around 1368 DR? Further details are very welcome (months when it's possible - or impossible - to travel, and so on). Thank you in advance!

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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Sep 2012 :  18:48:58  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
CorellonsDevout, although Ed comes from a very musical family, enjoys music a lot, and has the largest collection of LPs and CDs I've ever seen, in recent years he stopped writing to music and now prefers to write in silence.
As he put it: "The problem is that my ears are hearing something martial or uplifting or full of doom or sad, and as I write I feel the moods created by the music and think what I'm writing is full of that, too - - but it isn't. When I read the words, afterwards, they're empty. Flat. Emotionless and lacking all colour. The music was providing emotion and colour and driving the pacing, and without it, the result is hollow.
So I now write in silence, to the much softer accompaniment of certain musical passages I call up from memory, that don't seem to do the same damage."
However, in the past Ed wrote to all sorts of music (literally, from medieval recreations to just-released avante garde stuff), and it worked for him and may well work for others.
love,
THO
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 25 Sep 2012 :  04:54:14  Show Profile  Send CorellonsDevout an AOL message Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message
Thank you for that, I was just curious. I listen to music when I write, and even though it usually has no connection to the scene, I still like to hear it, so I was wondering what Ed's preference was :)

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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2012 :  18:50:05  Show Profile  Visit xaeyruudh's Homepage Send xaeyruudh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all.
CorellonsDevout, although Ed comes from a very musical family, enjoys music a lot, and has the largest collection of LPs and CDs I've ever seen, in recent years he stopped writing to music and now prefers to write in silence.



Thank you from me too. I've found something similar to be true for me, but I've lacked support or a cohesive explanation for it. Friends think I'm bizarre for almost never having music on, but my overworked/underfed brain has to work at its own pace and music tries too hard to command and direct... I feel like I'm battling the sound, without benefit, so ... anyway, thanks for sharing this. It's good to know I'm not simply not-alone, but I'm enjoying the quiet (punctuated with humming and dittying) with the world's busiest guy.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2012 :  21:17:02  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
Working on another map ATM (I know... I just can't help myself...), and I've run into a bit of a conundrum (what a surprise).

Was the scale of your Realms smaller? I am working on the area around Evereska and it seems to me rather odd that the Hill of Lost Souls is located two hard days ride from the Battle of the Bones. Wasn't that hill used as a triage center for the battle? Seems to me, most folk would have died en route.

Any input on this would be most appreciated (and don't feel compelled to rush me an answer - I have to follow the canon maps regardless, so it gets placed where it gets placed - this is more along the lines of "my own curiosity").

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