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Saxmilian
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Posted - 11 Nov 2011 :  21:41:22  Show Profile  Visit Saxmilian's Homepage Send Saxmilian a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
One of my players just obtained her 5th level as a druid and has been waiting to explore the new and wondrous world of being a variety of creatures. They are on an island, plagued by the undead, sheltering themselves in an old keep and she wants to become a cow so she can supply her companions with milk. Questiosn arose. Can she shapechange into a Sheep, be sheared for wool, then use the wool to make clothes? Anyone had any other druids bring up similar questions?

Artemas Entreri
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quote:
Originally posted by Saxmilian

One of my players just obtained her 5th level as a druid and has been waiting to explore the new and wondrous world of being a variety of creatures. They are on an island, plagued by the undead, sheltering themselves in an old keep and she wants to become a cow so she can supply her companions with milk. Questiosn arose. Can she shapechange into a Sheep, be sheared for wool, then use the wool to make clothes? Anyone had any other druids bring up similar questions?



The people i have played with usually tend to focus on treasure, equipment, spells, experience. Suckling each other for milk never came up.

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Wooly Rupert
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I'd allow her to shapechange into a cow -- but unless she had a reason to be lactating, she'd not produce milk. Pretty sure that works the same way in cows as it does in humans and most other mammals.

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crazedventurers
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Posted - 12 Nov 2011 :  00:04:40  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd allow her to shapechange into a cow -- but unless she had a reason to be lactating, she'd not produce milk. Pretty sure that works the same way in cows as it does in humans and most other mammals.


I'd rule the same WR.

I like the sheep one though, can't see an issue with being sheared and making clothes from the wool, clever players should be rewarded with a massive YES at this point

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Icelander
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Posted - 12 Nov 2011 :  00:25:12  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Given that PCs could cut their hair and attempt to weave uncomfortable hair shirts from it, I can see no logical reason for preventing Shapeshifting druids from doing the same in their animal form.

Mind you, the GM would have to decide on a consistent answer for if hair regenerates between shapes and why or why not, this happens. Does a completely bald man change into a hairless bear or does he become a regular old hairy one? If the PC in sheep form is shorn, does he appear hairless in his human form? What about the next day, can he assume the shape of a wooly sheep again or is he limited to a closely shorn shape?

Answers will have an impact on the economics of farming in the Realms. If a simple change in shape is enough to magically regenerate a year of wool production, a mid-level druid can have a major impact on the productivity of caprids.

This may not seem like much, but certain types of luxury wool would become much cheaper.

For my games, I find it best to assume that magical means can massively improve the yield of traditional farming methods and that they are relatively commonly used. This is the reason for why the Realms are as they are and not anything like the historical acricultural societies that pseudo-scholars often assume they resemble.

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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Nov 2011 :  00:41:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'd allow her to shapechange into a cow -- but unless she had a reason to be lactating, she'd not produce milk. Pretty sure that works the same way in cows as it does in humans and most other mammals.

Though, going off on a somewhat alternate tangent, I do like the idea of the druid perhaps ingesting some potion of illusion that allows the appearance of a lactating cow.

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