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Farrel
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 :  16:24:46  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Fellow scribes of Candlekeep, can you help me please?

I've been trying, rather unsucessfully, to find as many named Drow Houses from Maerimydra to help create a Drow NPC, who follows Eilistraee, for my current campaign.

The campaign is set in 1353DR so the events in City of the Spider Queen have not yet occurred and I have only managed to find one house from the aforementioned adventure: House Chumavh.

I've looked through Drizzt Do' Urden's Guide to the Underdark, City of the Spider Queen, and Underdark.

Is the lore regarding Maerimydra so scant?

Have I missed any in CotSQ?

Are any others detailed in any other sources (I'm primarily interested in canon lore and not homebrew)?

Thankyou in advance...

Markustay
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 :  18:02:32  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You may find something useful in Elves of Faerūn.

I had planned to do each drow settlement independently, but never found the time. I believe Lord Karsus tried to move forward with that plan (so I'm not sure if you'll find what you need - sorry).

There are at least two other scribes here who know the Drow far better then I, so hopefully they might have something.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Farrel
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 :  18:12:30  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

You may find something useful in Elves of Faerūn.

I had planned to do each drow settlement independently, but never found the time. I believe Lord Karsus tried to move forward with that plan (so I'm not sure if you'll find what you need - sorry).

There are at least two other scribes here who know the Drow far better then I, so hopefully they might have something.


Thanks Markus!

I wasn't even aware that this resource existed

I did a couple of searches of the document with the keywords Maerimydra and House/s and it doesn't contain any information on what I was looking for.

Thanks for the link though, i've bookmarked it for future use
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 :  20:24:13  Show Profile  Visit Hoondatha's Homepage Send Hoondatha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just be aware that a lot of it is homebrew. High quality homebrew, on the whole, but not published lore, and they don't differentiate between the two.

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Farrel
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Posted - 01 Nov 2011 :  20:30:00  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Just be aware that a lot of it is homebrew. High quality homebrew, on the whole, but not published lore, and they don't differentiate between the two.


Cheers Hoondatha

I realised it was homebrew when I started reading, due to the credits section, but it still looks darned impressive.

I really liked the names section, lots of goodies to have a pick through, I often struggle with names
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Wrigley
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Posted - 06 May 2012 :  22:31:54  Show Profile  Visit Wrigley's Homepage Send Wrigley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am not sure if it is still current but here is what I was able to harvest from official sources. Only population is estimated on description. My main source is book - City of the Spider Queen. If you will like it I can add my musing about life in the city itself but it will take some time to write up.

Maerimydra

Population: 11 000 (cca 5000 Drow)
Noble Houses (7): Chūmavh(1) (leading house), T’sarran (2) (Kiaransalee), Wharreil (3) (archmage of Maerimydra), Ned’razak (4) (Achmage of Szith Morcane), Mar-Shinn (5) (wizard Szith Morcane)
Morcane (6) (Szith Morcane only – minor house), Dhuurniv (Shadowdale/Shadowdark only – minor house),

Maerimydra lies beneath the heart of the Dalelands, roughly 10 miles below the south-central border of Mistledale. No tunnels lead directly up from the city to Mistledale, but passages
run to Haptooth Hill in Battledale, the Underdark (Shadowdark) beneath Shadowdale, and the outpost of Szith Morcane in the Dagger Hills.

The cavern ceiling is 600 feet high at its highest point, over the boulevard between the Courtyard of Lolth and Castle Maerimydra.

Maerimydra’s fires would have fouled the cavern’s air to a lethal point long ago, but the city’s builders created a number of tiny, hidden portals to the Elemental Plane of Air in the upper reaches of the cavern. Fresh air enters above the noble palaces in the northwest corner, and a soft but noticeable breeze blows south and east, exiting through another array of tiny portals in the vicinity of the East Gate.

While the collapse of buildings has partially blocked an adjoining street with rubble in many places, most of Maerimydra’s streets are relatively clear. The typical street is 20 to 30 feet wide. Grand public staircases lead from one level to another at the spots marked on the map. Each is about 50 feet wide and
50 feet long, ascending or descending about 30 to 40 feet between the city’s various plateaus.

Szith Morcane
The drow settlement of Szith Morcane has lain beneath the Dordrien Crypts for centuries. Founded in 804 DR as an outpost of Maerimydra when that city also ruled Shadowdale,
Szith Morcane served as a supply station for drow operating on the surface and a staging point for occasional raids into Daggerdale. With the flight of the drow from Shadowdale, the
inhabitants of Szith Morcane lost interest in the surface world until the recent arrival of refugees from Maerimydra. Szith Morcane was built inside a complex of caverns, all of
which open out into a vast chasm that penetrates deep into the earth.A large chasm forms the basic structure of Szith Morcane. Six tunnels lead from the southeast side of the chasm wall into the caverns that house the drow outpost. From the floor, the chasm plunges to a depth of 600 feet before ending in a rushing torrent of black water.
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Eli the Tanner
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  03:12:37  Show Profile  Visit Eli the Tanner's Homepage Send Eli the Tanner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wrigley's post has got a good chunk of the lore about Maerimydra for you to make a start with. But I'm afraid lore on the functioning Maerimydra is indeed rather scant sadly and scattered among a myriad of books.

You might want to download the City of the Spider Queen web enhancement which can still be found on the Wizards site: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020907a

It has a list of drow names to use in your campaign. Some of which could well be used as Noble Houses.

As Wrigley pointed out names such as Wharreil, Nelinderra, T'sarran, Dhuurniv and Chumavh belong most likely to Noble Drow Houses. The wandering half-dragon Sshumath Daerindra may well be an outcast of one of the Noble house but I can't be sure of that. In addition, the Jaezred Chauslinn keep a holding there under Patron Father Vesz’zt Auvryana. Even names from Szith Morcane would not be uncommon (as it was an outpost of Marimydra) like Morcane, Mar-Shinn and Ned'razak, especially as some drow may still be older than Szith Morcane's founding (804 DR).

From the map of Maermydra, the Noble plateau has 8 compounds, not including The Courtyard of Lolth (the temple), which implies at least 8 Noble houses...plus a shadow or ruling High house that would reside in Castle Maerimydra (House Chumavh was the top house before Maerimydar's fall). I imagine this would form a similar ruling council of 8 houses as Menzoberranzan...but where the ruling house Chumavh might serve as a shadow house that can swing deadlocks (4v4) one way or another. This is speculation on my part but seems plausible.

Remember there will still be trading and mixing between other cities too so using other House names (or a hybrid therof) is quite valid...it will also add a little intrigue and an interconnected feel of the place.

As for detailed sources, CotSQ is the best so far along with Underdark. There are snippets of info in the Lady Penitent trilogy by Lisa Smedman but nothing detailed.

Hope this helps and if you have any more queries about Maerimydra ask away.

-Eli the Tanner

P.S. Is there info in Drizzt Do'Urden's guide to the Underdark? I couldn't find any there.

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Edited by - Eli the Tanner on 11 May 2012 03:13:36
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  04:32:47  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-If anyone wants it, Maermiydra and Sith Morcane were both completed in the unpublished 'Elven Cities and Nations' section of Elves of Faerūn.

(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)

Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium
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Eli the Tanner
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  04:41:51  Show Profile  Visit Eli the Tanner's Homepage Send Eli the Tanner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Which volume is that in LK?

Edit: Can't find it in Volume I, III or IV so I'm going to assume this is locked away in the reclusive Volume II. If so, I would love to have a peek

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Edited by - Eli the Tanner on 11 May 2012 05:02:58
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Thieran
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  08:03:11  Show Profile Send Thieran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ditto.
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Wrigley
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  10:13:54  Show Profile  Visit Wrigley's Homepage Send Wrigley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originnally posted by Lord Karsus
-If anyone wants it, Maermiydra and Sith Morcane were both completed in the unpublished 'Elven Cities and Nations' section of Elves of Faerūn.



I wouldn't be surprised if it really were Elves of Faerun Volume II and I definitely like to have a peak. So if you will be so kind my Lord Karsus could you lift the shroud over this ancient knowledge?
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  20:41:13  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha

Just be aware that a lot of it is homebrew. High quality homebrew, on the whole, but not published lore, and they don't differentiate between the two.


-Most if it is not homebrew, as I've said more times than I can count, with an approximate 80/20 ratio. It is only homebrew when canon information is needed and does not exist, filling in needed gaps that would be fairly conspicuous if they were not filled in, or expanding on a topic.

-If you want the MS Word document, send me a PM with your e-mail, and I'll have it sent to you (probably after the weekend).

(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)

Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium

Edited by - Lord Karsus on 11 May 2012 20:44:01
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Farrel
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 25 May 2012 :  19:12:31  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooops! I forgot about this particular scroll

A big thanks to Wrigley and Eli the Tanner for more info than I dared hope

@Lord Karsus, I would appreciate a copy of the Word document if I may please? I will PM the details to you.

Thanks again to everyone!
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Jadedgod
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Posted - 27 Jul 2016 :  04:51:41  Show Profile Send Jadedgod a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dotting


The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 15 Feb 2019 :  17:02:32  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(REZ SCROLL)

Has any additional information ever come about regarding Maerimydra?

AD&D for me!
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TomCosta
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Posted - 17 Feb 2019 :  02:34:04  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maeryimydra was the base for some high level 5E AL adventures during the Out of the Abyss storyline. They were good to play.
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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 17 Feb 2019 :  21:49:20  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Maeryimydra was the base for some high level 5E AL adventures during the Out of the Abyss storyline. They were good to play.



Were there any parts that could be "harvested" for information about Maerimydra in the time of c. 1356 DR or so?

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TomCosta
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Posted - 17 Feb 2019 :  23:10:45  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Probably not much that City of the Spider Queen didn't have.
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