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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 22 Oct 2011 :  18:02:11  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How did Aoth escape the fight with Szass tam? I don't have Unholy on hand but I thought Lallara had a ring that would allow her to escape that she gave him (I read the book a long time ago, though...) Wouldn't people potentially have potions, rods, small devices, etc. that could permanently contain the same effects as a contingency spell? The Zulkir of Transmutation at the start of the Haunted Lands trilogy had a tattoo that would allow him to teleport to a safe place, for example.

I'm pretty sure its up to the author/DM to decide.
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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by MrHedgehog

How did Aoth escape the fight with Szass tam? I don't have Unholy on hand but I thought Lallara had a ring that would allow her to escape that she gave him (I read the book a long time ago, though...) Wouldn't people potentially have potions, rods, small devices, etc. that could permanently contain the same effects as a contingency spell? The Zulkir of Transmutation at the start of the Haunted Lands trilogy had a tattoo that would allow him to teleport to a safe place, for example.

I'm pretty sure its up to the author/DM to decide.

Lallara gave him a ring to translate himself to safety while she was holding Szass Tam's attack through some powerful [albeit diminishing] shield.

Druxus's tattoo [a contingency] didn't work because he had to think of its trigger, which escaped him at that moment since his assassin kept on banging his head on the wall.

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Quale
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 :  13:39:56  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lallara Mediocros

I don't know a lot about individual zulkirs, I think most of their names are the best in FR, and generally Thayan names
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 :  15:46:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Lallara Mediocros

I don't know a lot about individual zulkirs, I think most of their names are the best in FR, and generally Thayan names



I dunno, I can't see that surname without thinking it's based on "mediocre" -- which is hardly a ringing endorsement.

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Oct 2011 :  15:51:13  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Lallara Mediocros

I don't know a lot about individual zulkirs, I think most of their names are the best in FR, and generally Thayan names



I dunno, I can't see that surname without thinking it's based on "mediocre" -- which is hardly a ringing endorsement.

But her first name is quite dulcet. Though ironic, given her acerbic personality.

She shielded an entire band from the most destructive spells of Szass Tam himself. That's hardly a feat of a mediocre mage. I could easily imagine her reclaiming the Wizard's Reach and, together with her surviving subordinates, erect potent mythal-like barriers around the land that would negate all forms of undeath magic.

On a different note, I checked the results of the poll. I didn't know there's much love for Lauzoril. Perhaps he's "enchanted" some of us?

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MrHedgehog
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Posted - 31 Oct 2011 :  19:47:43  Show Profile  Visit MrHedgehog's Homepage Send MrHedgehog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Lallara would flee to a different region, her power in the Wizard's Reach was already exhausted at the end of Unholy. Amn! Amn!
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Dennis
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That’s possibke. But she mentioned in Unholy that she would rather rule a Thayan colony (which the Wizard’s Reach is one, somewhat) than conquer a different land, where opposition can be more than she could handle.

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Thauramarth
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Lauzoril, especially in the light of how Lynn Abbey portrayed him in The Simbul's Gift. The only Zulkir who's become a heavily used NPC in my campaigns - a great fellow for PCs to interact with...

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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  13:55:23  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am going to have to go with... Bob.



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Dennis
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I am going to have to go with... Bob.


Sorry, I fail to see the jest.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Thauramarth

Lauzoril, especially in the light of how Lynn Abbey portrayed him in The Simbul's Gift. The only Zulkir who's become a heavily used NPC in my campaigns - a great fellow for PCs to interact with...

For me, that book has the best portrayal of him. Enchanting and humane, but deadly.

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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  14:51:42  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I am going to have to go with... Bob.

Sorry, I fail to see the jest.
You don't find the idea of a Zulkir named 'Bob' funny?

I must be losing my touch.

There are also so those commercials.... Smiling Bob... for 'male enhancement'.

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Edited by - Markustay on 02 Nov 2011 14:56:40
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Dennis
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I dunno. If ever someone with that name is elected zulkir, I think the other zulkirs would slay him on their first convocation, just because he bears such a name. [No offense to RAS and anyone else with that name.] Nevron had been known to have slain a zulkir [Zola] for some ridiculous reason, mayhap he'd kill Bob the Zulkir himself.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  15:32:31  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I dunno. If ever someone with that name is elected zulkir, I think the other zulkirs would slay him on their first convocation, just because he bears such a name. [No offense to RAS and anyone else with that name.] Nevron had been known to have slain a zulkir [Zola] for some ridiculous reason, mayhap he'd kill Bob the Zulkir himself.



With names like Szass, Lauzoril, and Nevron, is Bob really that ridiculous? I'll agree it's not a Realms name, but I fail to see any inherent in-setting issues with the name.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I dunno. If ever someone with that name is elected zulkir, I think the other zulkirs would slay him on their first convocation, just because he bears such a name. [No offense to RAS and anyone else with that name.] Nevron had been known to have slain a zulkir [Zola] for some ridiculous reason, mayhap he'd kill Bob the Zulkir himself.



With names like Szass, Lauzoril, and Nevron, is Bob really that ridiculous? I'll agree it's not a Realms name, but I fail to see any inherent in-setting issues with the name.

And it's not like it can't ever happen. While there remain gates which allow travel between the Realms and Earth, the possibility of a Bob popping up somewhere on Faerűn, is an somewhat amusing thought.

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Markustay
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Okay, it was a joke, but if I were serious, I'd just Realms-it-up a bit to Baab.

And if that's his last name, his first could be Icha.

Oh... wait... then the Headless Zhent might go after him.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  18:11:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Okay, it was a joke, but if I were serious, I'd just Realms-it-up a bit to Baab.

And if that's his last name, his first could be Icha.

Oh... wait... then the Headless Zhent might go after him.



I use Bahb a lot, myself. Usually Bahb the Fighter.

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Farrel
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  18:46:26  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While we're discussing Bob the Zulkir (what school is he btw?)

I have to add that there's already:

Gareth the Paladin (I used to work with a rather large chap called Gareth, nice guy).

Christine the Mage (My hairdresser).

Kane the Monk (Ah Grasshopper!).

Charles the Mayor (Is Oliver O'Kane Realmsian in any way shape or form???).

I do like Zola the Zulkir, I bet he was always picked first for Thayvian football (soccer).
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Dennis
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Zola was an incompetent necromancer, and was not really a zulkir. Her presence alone annoyed Nevron, who didn't think twice before killing her.

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Farrel
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  19:09:34  Show Profile Send Farrel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From the sourcebooks i've read I do like Nevron, he seems thoroughly nasty.

This guy does intrigue me:

Hahlomede Teeos (Abjuration): known as “Blackwyrm” for his everpresent tattered black robes and cloaks, that rendered him immune to dragon attacks and made dragons actively avoid him, Teeos loved to act mysterious and to track down lost treasures, old magics, and deceptions, this last sort of hunting quickly making him very unpopular with many Thayans; he became the feared, tireless, and increasingly hated “investigator” of the First Zulkirate.

Thanks for bringing him to my attention

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sfdragon
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Posted - 02 Nov 2011 :  19:20:43  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TTam all the way

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Farrel

From the sourcebooks i've read I do like Nevron, he seems thoroughly nasty.


And in the novels, he was. His fate was rather ironic, though.

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Markustay
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Baab would be the little-known (outside of Thay) Zulkir of Bardic magic.

Great charisma - a rarity in Thay, especially amongst the upper echelons - and able to shatter castle walls with his voice alone. A true wizard of the 'old school', and quite the ladies man (and man's man, if the rumors are even half-true). His real power lies in all the 'dirt' he has on the others - he doesn't raise skeletons, he finds them in people's closets.

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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Baab would be the little-known (outside of Thay) Zulkir of Bardic magic.

Great charisma - a rarity in Thay, especially amongst the upper echelons - and able to shatter castle walls with his voice alone. A true wizard of the 'old school', and quite the ladies man (and man's man, if the rumors are even half-true). His real power lies in all the 'dirt' he has on the others - he doesn't raise skeletons, he finds them in people's closets.

did he animate any of them??

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quote:
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Baab would be the little-known (outside of Thay) Zulkir of Bardic magic.
He also used to worship Bhaal.

Baab, the bard, of Bhaal.

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