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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 30 Sep 2011 :  17:57:57  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have a great source for 1st printing Forgotten Realms books, especially the older out of print ones. If there is something specific that anyone is looking for to help complete their treasured Realms collection, please post on this thread or send me a private message.

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Halidan
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Posted - 30 Sep 2011 :  20:23:46  Show Profile  Visit Halidan's Homepage Send Halidan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Entreri - Are these books used or new?

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canikoblivan
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  11:23:15  Show Profile  Visit canikoblivan's Homepage Send canikoblivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hey there! i'd appreciate it if you could share this source with us =)
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sfdragon
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  14:26:27  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is it legal??

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  15:01:31  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My source prefers to remain anonymous for the time being. The books are used (out of print for the most part) but in great condition.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  16:04:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We need to know if it's legal. You're publicly offering this up, it needs to be legal. If it's not legal, we could come under fire from WotC for allowing it.

So I'm afraid that we need to have the legal question answered. If it's not answered, I'm going to assume it's not legal and act accordingly.

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The Sage
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It's been my experience that if one has to ask whether something is legal, then it's usually not.

Regardless, Wooly's point is the most valid stance for us here at Candlekeep. Until the legality issue is resolved, I'd rather this site not be involved in such transactions.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  16:47:46  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My source is a book store that happens to have a rather large selection of books, including a fantastic selection of anything TSR/WOTC related. I assume they have all of their licenses up to date and pay their taxes like a good little book store should.

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Wooly Rupert
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So this is a brick-and-mortar store, and not someone selling e-books and claiming to hold a license to do so? I've seen that a few times within the last month or so...

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  17:19:26  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

So this is a brick-and-mortar store, and not someone selling e-books and claiming to hold a license to do so? I've seen that a few times within the last month or so...



Legitimate physical location in Virginia selling books people trade in. Just wanted to share the treasure for fellow scribes hunting for those last few books to complete their Realms collections.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  18:25:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.

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canikoblivan
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Turkey
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  18:49:32  Show Profile  Visit canikoblivan's Homepage Send canikoblivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I live in Turkey and am only 25 paperbacks short of the entire Forgotten Realms novel catalogue. Any ideas on how I can take advantage of this book store? =)
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  19:56:37  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by canikoblivan

I live in Turkey and am only 25 paperbacks short of the entire Forgotten Realms novel catalogue. Any ideas on how I can take advantage of this book store? =)



The store does not deal with online sales right now (strange). Do you have a list of the books you need? If so then send me a PM

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  19:58:00  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.



Totally understandable, I promise i'm not boosting boxes of Realms books off the back of a truck.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.



Totally understandable, I promise i'm not boosting boxes of Realms books off the back of a truck.



I was more concerned about illegal e-books. As I said, I've recently seen someone with a bunch of old FR books in e-book format, claiming he was licensed to sell them.

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canikoblivan
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Posted - 03 Oct 2011 :  20:55:53  Show Profile  Visit canikoblivan's Homepage Send canikoblivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by canikoblivan

I live in Turkey and am only 25 paperbacks short of the entire Forgotten Realms novel catalogue. Any ideas on how I can take advantage of this book store? =)



The store does not deal with online sales right now (strange). Do you have a list of the books you need? If so then send me a PM



That's very kind of you! I will send the list as soon as I get home =)
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2011 :  02:45:58  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where in VA?

Edit: Nvm, I see you're in Fairfax. Hook me up with the store and I'll stop by.

Edited by - Matt James on 08 Oct 2011 02:47:04
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 13 Oct 2011 :  14:28:55  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by canikoblivan

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by canikoblivan

I live in Turkey and am only 25 paperbacks short of the entire Forgotten Realms novel catalogue. Any ideas on how I can take advantage of this book store? =)



The store does not deal with online sales right now (strange). Do you have a list of the books you need? If so then send me a PM



That's very kind of you! I will send the list as soon as I get home =)



Hello again! Did you get the list i emailed to you??

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canikoblivan
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Posted - 13 Oct 2011 :  15:45:05  Show Profile  Visit canikoblivan's Homepage Send canikoblivan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes, I've just sent you a PM
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 13 Oct 2011 :  17:10:36  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by canikoblivan

yes, I've just sent you a PM



Sounds great, talk to you soon!

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Mystic Lemur
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Posted - 13 Oct 2011 :  19:05:40  Show Profile Send Mystic Lemur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.



There is so much wrong with that it isn't even funny. If you don't want people talking about illegal file sharing because it's illegal that's fine. But the idea that this site and this forum, which has been around since the internet, exists at the 'mercy' of Wizbro rankles me to no end. It's the same excuse used for not putting out another Compendium, and it still falls flat. Homebrew is Fair Use.


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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 13 Oct 2011 :  19:08:19  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Lemur

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.



There is so much wrong with that it isn't even funny. If you don't want people talking about illegal file sharing because it's illegal that's fine. But the idea that this site and this forum, which has been around since the internet, exists at the 'mercy' of Wizbro rankles me to no end. It's the same excuse used for not putting out another Compendium, and it still falls flat. Homebrew is Fair Use.





Mystic..even the word "Candlekeep" is property of WoTC. They could easily force a name change or worse if they so wished.

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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Lemur

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Alright, that satisfies me. Sorry to fixate on this; we exist at WotC's sufferance, so there are areas we have to tread lightly. That's part of why we disallow discussions about obtaining material illegally.



There is so much wrong with that it isn't even funny. If you don't want people talking about illegal file sharing because it's illegal that's fine. But the idea that this site and this forum, which has been around since the internet, exists at the 'mercy' of Wizbro rankles me to no end. It's the same excuse used for not putting out another Compendium, and it still falls flat. Homebrew is Fair Use.


To be fair, I remember some of the horrible, draconian things that TSR used to do, killing fan-created material, media, and other things, back when the Internet was relatively new.

Hasbro/WotC isn't TSR, and there was a period of time when there was an open gaming license. But there's no OGL for anything in 4E, and we have to remember that any company can rightfully, legally act in order to protect it's intellectual property.

I'm not suggesting that they will act like a hammer, but it's also prudent to be careful when you're dealing with a corporation. Fair use extends only so far, and many current websites go more than a bit beyond fair use. Gratitude, rather than "screw the evil megacorp!" should be the first thought we have.

Just saying.


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Wooly Rupert
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Yup. And for the record, Al Gore invented the internet long before WotC was around.

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HardKano
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Any good company need a little bit of "open mind" to stay tuned with is fans. It's a good to stay in touch and learn what they want. We are in a era that is not the company that "gives to player something" but the "players ask something"... As a business owner you need to be flexible and learn from your customer to always be on the right tracks ;)

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 14 Oct 2011 :  14:43:12  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HardKano

Any good company need a little bit of "open mind" to stay tuned with is fans. It's a good to stay in touch and learn what they want. We are in a era that is not the company that "gives to player something" but the "players ask something"... As a business owner you need to be flexible and learn from your customer to always be on the right tracks ;)



Yep, and i would hope that WoTC has people check in at Candlekeep to see what we the customers like/dislike about their products

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Halidan
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Posted - 17 Oct 2011 :  20:51:18  Show Profile  Visit Halidan's Homepage Send Halidan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Entreri3478, the book arrived. It was in very good condition - better than the pictures showed. You packaged it very securly as well. I'm very pleased with this transaction. I only wish that I needed more books for my collection.

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