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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  12:42:05  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:

Who do you think has the most interesting epithet or title?

*I'm not sure if Melegaunt's sobriquet was widely known when he was alive, but Vala once called him that in The Summoning. Maybe it's only used by the Vasaan tribe that he rescued (or tricked to become his servants).

Choices:

Telamont Tanthul – The Most High / The Shadowking
Ilira Nathalan – Fox-at-Twilight
Rivalen Tanthul – The Nightseer / Prince of Shade
Dmitra Flass – The First Princess of Thay
Aumvor – The Undying
Elminster Aumar – Old Mage / The Sage of Shadowdale
Vhostym – The Sojourner
Larloch – The Shadow King
Alassra Shentrantra Silverhand – The Simbul / Witch-Queen of Aglarond
Melegaunt Tanthul – Great One*
Malik – The Seraph of Lies
Other

(Anonymous Vote)

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  12:46:47  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Others who didn't make it in the choices but are interesting nonetheless: [If only the number of choices is increased to 24...]

Priamon Rakesk – Frostrune
Trobriand – The Metal Mage
Halaster Blackcloak – The Mad-Mage of Undermountain
Mirt – The Moneylender
Khelben Arunsun – The Blackstaff
Storm Silverhand – Bard of Shadowdale
Qilu้ Veladorn – The Dark Sister

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Those who know me would find my choice predictable: Telamont Tanthul. He could have chosen Emperor, which is okay, even King. But I think “The Most High” is the best, because it connotes “power over everything and everyone.”

I also like Fox-at-Twilight (though ironically, not the novels where she appeared). My namesake (aka Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho) is a demon fox.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  14:07:19  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

Others who didn't make it in the choices but are interesting nonetheless: [If only the number of choices is increased to 24...]

Priamon Rakesk – Frostrune
Trobriand – The Metal Mage
Halaster Blackcloak – The Mad-Mage of Undermountain
Mirt – The Moneylender
Khelben Arunsun – The Blackstaff
Storm Silverhand – Bard of Shadowdale
Qilu้ Veladorn – The Dark Sister

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Those who know me would find my choice predictable: Telamont Tanthul. He could have chosen Emperor, which is okay, even King. But I think “The Most High” is the best, because it connotes “power over everything and everyone.”

I also like Fox-at-Twilight (though ironically, not the novels where she appeared). My namesake (aka Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho) is a demon fox.



Frankly I am shocked that "Rumblebelly" is not on here for Regis

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  14:44:36  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I didn't know, because I don't read RAS's novels. Only The Pirate King, but I guess that doesn't count since I didn't finish it.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  14:47:06  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I didn't know, because I don't read RAS's novels. Only The Pirate King, but I guess that doesn't count since I didn't finish it.



Not a fan?

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Dennis
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He has strong proclivity to fighters. Or maybe his publishers just want him to feature fighters as the main characters. I don't like fighters, as they tend to bore me. I have nothing against RAS's style, if The Pirate King is any indication. And his depiction of spellcasters is okay as well. But all things considered, the nearly ceaseless swordplay never fails to shut my eyes.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  14:59:39  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


He has strong proclivity to fighters. Or maybe his publishers just want him to feature fighters as the main characters. I don't like fighters, as they tend to bore me. I have nothing against RAS's style, if The Pirate King is any indication. And his depiction of spellcasters is okay as well. But all things considered, the nearly ceaseless swordplay never fails to shut my eyes.



This is true, and i enjoyed his earlier realms novels much more. I have yet to read the Transitions Trilogy because i had to force myself to finsh the Hunter's Blade Trilogy. His stuff seems to be very forced nowadays: write 1 realms book a year even if the story is not developed.

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Dennis
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Not an FR character, but...

"Moaning" Myrtle just sounds weird, funny, and not to mention it connotes something inappropriate for kids.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:17:07  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Not an FR character, but...

"Moaning" Myrtle just sounds weird, funny, and not to mention it connotes something inappropriate for kids.



Wait a second. I think i remember this character from my underground copy of Calimport Nights

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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:36:17  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

She's a character from J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. The annoying ghost in the bathroom.

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Thelonius
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:45:17  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd go for Malik's one, that Seraph of Lies title really is a clear reflection of himself but somehow, I think the word seraph is a sweet irony on his own persona.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:47:16  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


She's a character from J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series. The annoying ghost in the bathroom.



She would also make a great Garbage Pail Kid

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Wooly Rupert
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I've always liked Mirakles of the Elastic Tendon, sometimes called the Unhamstringable. He was in a Zork novel.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:53:07  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL!

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:54:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've always liked Mirakles of the Elastic Tendon, sometimes called the Unhamstringable. He was in a Zork novel.

A gymnast?! Or Mr. Fantastic's son?

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  16:58:56  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thelonius

I'd go for Malik's one, that Seraph of Lies title really is a clear reflection of himself but somehow, I think the word seraph is a sweet irony on his own persona.

I think that's the point of Troy Denning or whoever created that epithet. Malik's life was full of ironies. A man who would love to lie to save his arse, even if it would kill his "friends," but was cursed to always speak the truth and nothing but the truth.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  17:06:38  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've always liked Mirakles of the Elastic Tendon, sometimes called the Unhamstringable. He was in a Zork novel.

A gymnast?! Or Mr. Fantastic's son?

He's the love-child of Mr. Fantastic and Plastic Man.

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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Sep 2011 :  17:21:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've always liked Mirakles of the Elastic Tendon, sometimes called the Unhamstringable. He was in a Zork novel.

A gymnast?! Or Mr. Fantastic's son?

He's the love-child of Mr. Fantastic and Plastic Man.

You both got me really curious that I actually googled it and read the zork library.

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Dennis
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I think Vhostym's epithet is ironic. It only means "The Traveler," a tame/gentle word to be associated with someone who destroyed worlds at whim.

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Thelonius
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quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I think Vhostym's epithet's is ironic. It only means "The Traveler," a tame/gentle word to be associated with someone who destroyed worlds at whim.


That's like calling Norrin Radd the "Silver Surfer", when he should be called "The laser Marker", cause he allowed a nuclear bomb (Galactus) to destroy a whole planet

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Dennis
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Rivalen's sobriquet really sounds effeminate, doesn't it? Maybe because most seers are females.

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Kilvan
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  15:50:01  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Rivalen's sobriquet really sounds effeminate, doesn't it? Maybe because most seers are females.



Darcassan the Farseer would roll in his tomb with that comment (or his floor, whatever)

Edit: And come to think of it, Alaundo too!

Edited by - Kilvan on 21 Sep 2011 15:51:28
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Dennis
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  16:34:29  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kilvan

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Rivalen's sobriquet really sounds effeminate, doesn't it? Maybe because most seers are females.



Darcassan the Farseer would roll in his tomb with that comment (or his floor, whatever)

Edit: And come to think of it, Alaundo too!

Hence, the word most. But yes, Darcassan and Alaundo would roll in their tombs if they hear that. So don't tell them.

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The Hooded One
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I MIGHT buy your preference for "Most High" being cool, Dennis, despite its built-in arrogance...if it weren't for the fact that it's been used so often in the Realms, both by top-ranking clergy and local city-state rulers, that it's almost like saying "Lord" or "King."
So it MIGHT have been cool several thousand years BEFORE Telamont came along.
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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I MIGHT buy your preference for "Most High" being cool, Dennis, despite its built-in arrogance...if it weren't for the fact that it's been used so often in the Realms, both by top-ranking clergy and local city-state rulers, that it's almost like saying "Lord" or "King."
So it MIGHT have been cool several thousand years BEFORE Telamont came along.
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A high ranking priest is A Most High. A high ranking city ruler is A Most High. Because THE Most High is Telamont Tanthul. Same goes to Mirt. There are thousands---perhaps even millions---of moneylenders in the Realms. But THE Moneylender is Mirt and he alone.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  19:32:22  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I MIGHT buy your preference for "Most High" being cool, Dennis, despite its built-in arrogance...if it weren't for the fact that it's been used so often in the Realms, both by top-ranking clergy and local city-state rulers, that it's almost like saying "Lord" or "King."
So it MIGHT have been cool several thousand years BEFORE Telamont came along.
love,
THO

A high ranking priest is A Most High. A high ranking city ruler is A Most High. Because THE Most High is Telamont Tanthul. Same goes to Mirt. There are thousands---perhaps even millions---of moneylenders in the Realms. But THE Moneylender is Mirt and he alone.



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Dennis
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I propose that Trobriand's epithet be changed to "The Mage of Magnetism." Sounds Magneto-ish, but a fine improvement.

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Kilvan
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  19:48:57  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You could also add: The Mage of Magnetism, welcome to die! (kudos if you get that reference)
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Therise
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quote:
Originally posted by Kilvan

You could also add: The Mage of Magnetism, welcome to die! (kudos if you get that reference)


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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  19:56:30  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Or The Mage of Magnetism, welcome to play chess. (Kudos if you get that reference.)

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Kilvan
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I hope it is not referencing X3 ending... A puppy dies everytime this movie is mentionned (damn, I killed another one myself)

Edit: Ugh, THAT was my 500th post? Not very glorious...

Edited by - Kilvan on 21 Sep 2011 20:10:55
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