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jordanz
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 05:51:41
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Poll Question:
Who Greatest Mage that ever lived in the Forgotten Realms? I know there is a similar thread, but it seems to only list living mages and it leaves some of the most powerful mages out...
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Edited by - jordanz on 15 Mar 2011 05:53:29
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 11:31:01
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Here we go again |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 11:38:52
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Considering nothing but my personal bias, I say Telamont and Larloch. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 11:39:00
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Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 02:24:58
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quote: Originally posted by arry
Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters?
Pug. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7969 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 02:31:40
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I am oft amazed at how many scribes seem unaware of Candlekeep's search genie or Active Topics.
[Edit: Why aren't Halaster, the Terraseer, and Telamont on the list this time around?] |
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Edited by - Ayrik on 16 Mar 2011 02:42:24 |
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Light
Learned Scribe
Australia
231 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 09:00:15
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Ioulam of course. How old is he? Over 4,000, he must have learnt a thing or two in that time. |
"A true warrior needs no sword" - Thors (Vinland Saga) |
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Eldacar
Senior Scribe
438 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 11:45:16
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
quote: Originally posted by arry
Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters?
Pug.
There's something to be said for this. There aren't many fantasy wizards who can create the equivalent of a Gate spell big enough to fit a fair chunk of the moon in it. If the field is opened up to every fictional character ever, though, then Pug isn't particularly impressive. |
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 13:05:21
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Simbul... |
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jordanz
Senior Scribe
553 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 18:08:01
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quote: Originally posted by Light
Ioulam of course. How old is he? Over 4,000, he must have learnt a thing or two in that time.
Interesting I'm not fully aware of some of Ioulam's major accomplishments but apparently they warrant comparison to some of the others on the list who have confronted Gods and Demigods... |
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Asharak
Learned Scribe
France
268 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 18:17:22
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Ioulaum, creator of the first mythallar... |
"Soyez réalistes : demandez l'impossible"
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 20:58:50
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
I am oft amazed at how many scribes seem unaware of Candlekeep's search genie or Active Topics.
[Edit: Why aren't Halaster, the Terraseer, and Telamont on the list this time around?]
It never ceases to baffle.(and inspires my only wish to be a moderator for just a minute) |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7969 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2011 : 22:29:32
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Perhaps someone should ask Ed ... no doubt he's come across a thousand minstrels who all sing some version of a song called The Greatest Mage Who Ever Lived. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 02:21:02
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quote: Originally posted by Eldacar
quote: Originally posted by Dennis
quote: Originally posted by arry
Which fictional character was greater than all these other fictional characters?
Pug.
There's something to be said for this. There aren't many fantasy wizards who can create the equivalent of a Gate spell big enough to fit a fair chunk of the moon in it. If the field is opened up to every fictional character ever, though, then Pug isn't particularly impressive.
Don't take it too seriously. It's just my personal bias. Pug wrecked havoc in the arena of Kelewan's Emperor, teleported a huge chunk of the moon to smash the the Dasati's Dreadlord, could create "emergency" rifts between worlds in mere seconds, could journey back in time, countered the magical bridge of a hundred Panthatians, and disrupted Macros's foolish attempt at godhood. These are great achievements, indeed. However, I acknowledge that there are others outside Feist's Universe who've done equally lofty feats.
One can even say the Scarlet Witch is the greatest. And I might not argue with that. Altering the very fabric or reality is no minor feat. |
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Eldacar
Senior Scribe
438 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 03:08:28
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis One can even say the Scarlet Witch is the greatest. And I might not argue with that. Altering the very fabric or reality is no minor feat.
Wanda? I'd go higher in the chain than that.
The Endless from Sandman. Lucifer Morningstar (and his brother Michael Demiurgos) from Lucifer. The Presence.
(Incidentally, check out Feist's latest novel - Kingdom Besieged - if you haven't already. It's an interesting read.) |
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 06:45:27
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The release of A Kingdom Besieged is on April 12. Where did you buy your copy? |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Eldacar
Senior Scribe
438 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 07:36:19
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
The release of A Kingdom Besieged is on April 12. Where did you buy your copy?
http://www.bookdepository.com/book/9780007264766/Kingdom-Besieged
It's been out in Australia for almost a month now. Several bookstores have it as well. |
"The Wild Mages I have met exhibit a startling disregard for common sense, and are often meddling with powers far beyond their own control." ~Volo "Not unlike a certain travelogue author with whom I am unfortunately acquainted." ~Elminster |
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ChieftainTwilight
Learned Scribe
171 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 09:01:10
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quote: Originally posted by Arik
I am oft amazed at how many scribes seem unaware of Candlekeep's search genie or Active Topics.
[Edit: Why aren't Halaster, the Terraseer, and Telamont on the list this time around?]
I can answer about Halaster.. >.> it's because he doesn't belong on this list. XD |
and a heart can only break so many times and I've been to hell and back so many times and I've seen folks walk away so many times but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself and a heart can only break so many times a heart can only break so many times
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 14:45:37
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quote: Originally posted by Eldacar
quote: Originally posted by Dennis
The release of A Kingdom Besieged is on April 12. Where did you buy your copy?
http://www.bookdepository.com/book/9780007264766/Kingdom-Besieged
It's been out in Australia for almost a month now. Several bookstores have it as well.
Aye, pretty much. I haven't picked up my copy yet, because I'm short on gold pieces this month. So I'll probably wait until next month, or until the trade-paperback releases in Australia. Which will provide me with enough time to play catch up with Feist's past works anyway. |
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Edited by - The Sage on 17 Mar 2011 14:46:58 |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 22:12:57
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It will be available here in the Phil on May or June. |
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 22:16:49
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Duke Rowan Darkwood.
In fairness, he wasn't born on Toril, but he did make his name there in the Bloodstone lands. :) And later (or much earlier in one perspective, given the oddness of time travel) he did attempt to overthrow the Lady of Pain.
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 23:12:35
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karsus. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 23:24:15
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Mortal Azuth |
BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL. HE DECAPITATES!!!
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 01:52:24
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I am more inclined to go with Queen Amlaruil Moonflower. After all, besides the Simbul, who else had access to High Magic? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 02:14:01
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quote: Originally posted by tradwitch1313
I am more inclined to go with Queen Amlaruil Moonflower. After all, besides the Simbul, who else had access to High Magic?
Bunches and bunches of elven high mages. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 02:39:41
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by tradwitch1313
I am more inclined to go with Queen Amlaruil Moonflower. After all, besides the Simbul, who else had access to High Magic?
Bunches and bunches of elven high mages.
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Mar 2011 : 01:51:15
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quote: Originally posted by tradwitch1313
I am more inclined to go with Queen Amlaruil Moonflower. After all, besides the Simbul, who else had access to High Magic?
The Srinshee. And what Wooly said, though my descriptions of them would be more colorful than "bunches".
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Ed said among humans, the mortal Azuth was the greatest. But we don't have to agree with Ed, do we? |
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Edited by - Dennis on 27 May 2011 11:42:36 |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1265 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2011 : 04:24:46
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The Simbul is slightly stronger than Elminster by my take. By I think Kimmuriel could take her down. Psionics > Magic. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2011 : 04:49:16
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I voted for the Srinshee. Why? She was Elminster's MENTOR, for starters. That gal's FORGOTTEN more about magic than many mages will learn in a hundred lifetimes! And she's done some pretty amazing things with her power- like keeping both herself and El alive after being blasted with magic that SHOULD have reduced half of Myth Drannor to dust. Though it was a toss-up between her and El himself. Not only has he hurled spells with the best of them, but he's managed to save a goddess of magic from death (by holding a major part of her essence during the ToT), and has almost single-handedly kept Cormyr and the Dales "safe" for centuries. Not to mention his relationships to several other Chosen.... Other mages may have performed loftier feats of magic, but how many of them have been LOVED by Mystra herself? Nope, can't think of any.... (Sammaster doesn't count- his relationship with her was rather one-sided...) |
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Nicolai Withander
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 03 Jun 2011 : 01:49:30
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First of all I just want to say that I have chosen not to vote at this moment. The reason for this i s that by posting Mortal Azuth you kind of don’t have to post the others... For he became a god by his own power. Or more correctly it was due to the spell or spells he cast. So in other words... He IS the greatest mage that have been yet... by definition and by canon lore.
If you ask who we like then this thread actually has meaning, but ask who is the greatest... well ofc it’s the guy who became a god because of his power and knowledge and actions...
So in short and knowing that I’m a jerk for saying this... it’s a stupid question because it is Azuth... hands down. No question about it!!!
Personally like the Srinshee the most though!
Ps. I know again im a jerk, but if this post is about actual power, and not whom we like, then how can anyone have the nerv to say the Simbul. She is less powerful than Sammaster, who is less powerful than Telemond, who is less powerful than Elminster, who is less powerful than Larloch, who is less powerful than Ioulaum , who is less powerful than Karsus, who is less powerful than the Srinshee whos is less powerful than the firstmagister!!!
Its just such a useless post if ppl have no clue what they are talking about. Sorry to point that out! And the ranking of this list is made by what have been written in these hallowed halls and not by personal feelings! |
Edited by - Nicolai Withander on 03 Jun 2011 02:07:56 |
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