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Fellfire
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 Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 03:34:47
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I've read through the posts here and looked at my sources. My question is this. Do the lythari have any place in the Elven cities? Either now or in the history of the Realms? Or do they spend all of their time running around the woods hunting with their tribe and what have you? Are there no more "civilized" individuals? Were there ever any notable lythari warriors or mages?
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Kentinal
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 04:18:58
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The lore I have read appears to indicate that they have their own society.
They do interact with elves and others from time to time, even to taking a few into the lifestyle. They live in woods, there is nothing that indicates that they do not visit cities from time to time. Such visits for trade most likely.
In some ways I take exception to your premise that if an elf does not live in a city that they are uncivilized. It does not take living in a city to be civilized.
As to notable lythari warriors or mages I do not recall any in lore, however you should be sure that the pack clearly has some known to them. |
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 04:21:46
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Misanthorpe
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 04:53:15
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Lythari exist in their own groups, and are apparently quite content to do so. Lythari are primarily inclined to hang in small groups with other lythari, mostly isolated from other elfkind. When they do interact with other elves, it's pretty much when and where the lythari choose.
You could prolly say they exist on the extreme fringes of elven society, but even that implies a place in the larger society of elves that really doesn't exist. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 05:13:35
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| The novel Frostfell offers some intriguing tidbits on lythari society in the Realms -- both the "western"-termed lythari and the Vil Adranath [which is just an "eastern" term used to describe the same type of lycanthropic elves]. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 05:17:31
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Originally posted by Kentinal
They do interact with elves and others from time to time, even to taking a few into the lifestyle.
I'd say that interaction with others is somewhat limited -- depending on the race in question, of course.
For example, as Elaine Cunningham has indicated in the past, humans really aren't all that knowledgeable about the lythari -- appreciating only that they are largely reclusive and that they're elves. Suggesting only very rare encounters between the two races. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 05:19:08
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Originally posted by The Sage
The novel Frostfell offers some intriguing tidbits on lythari society in the Realms -- both the "western"-termed lythari and the Vil Adranath [which is just an "eastern" term used to describe the same type of lycanthropic elves].
I personally regard the Vil Adranath as an offshoot race of lythari -- a subgroup of lythari that is now somewhat different from the "parent" lythari race. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 05:22:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
The novel Frostfell offers some intriguing tidbits on lythari society in the Realms -- both the "western"-termed lythari and the Vil Adranath [which is just an "eastern" term used to describe the same type of lycanthropic elves].
I personally regard the Vil Adranath as an offshoot race of lythari -- a subgroup of lythari that is now somewhat different from the "parent" lythari race.
The novel itself really doesn't make that much of a particular distinction between the two, though. For the most part, the differences between the Vil Adranath and the lythari are largely cultural.
It's an intriguing premise, however, to view the Adranath as an offshoot racial branch. And one I keenly hope to explore... eventually, once I get all my notes together and start reworking my current theory on the subject.  |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Feb 2011 : 05:37:54
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
The novel Frostfell offers some intriguing tidbits on lythari society in the Realms -- both the "western"-termed lythari and the Vil Adranath [which is just an "eastern" term used to describe the same type of lycanthropic elves].
I personally regard the Vil Adranath as an offshoot race of lythari -- a subgroup of lythari that is now somewhat different from the "parent" lythari race.
The novel itself really doesn't make that much of a particular distinction between the two, though. For the most part, the differences between the Vil Adranath and the lythari are largely cultural.
It's an intriguing premise, however, to view the Adranath as an offshoot racial branch. And one I keenly hope to explore... eventually, once I get all my notes together and start reworking my current theory on the subject.
Well, when I read Frostfell, I didn't feel like his lythari had the same feel as Elaine's lythari, or as the lythari I've read in the source material. That's why I regard them as a subgroup. I've come up with my own theory for how this group could have split off from the main race, too. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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