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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 :  15:15:48  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone use dinos in their campaigns? It's never come up for me....I tend to think of them as secluded to Chult in a sort of "lost world" setting-if I think about them on Faerun at all!! Kinda silly, I think...

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 :  16:50:23  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree ArionElenim. Ill never use dinosaurs in my campaign, it has no Realms feeling to it whatsoever. I leave them confined to Chult too but ive plenty of other jungle-dwelling creatures to throw in before needing to use dino's

I have never run the Jungles of Chult adventure module so dont know the plot of the adventure, but I think id substitute dino's for other creatures. I feel that TSR felt obliged to use dino's at the time as Jurassic Park was all the rage at the movies.

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Trafaldi
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 :  21:37:28  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage  Send Trafaldi an AOL message Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im am going to try and use them in a game and i will tell how it goes

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Jander Sunstar
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 :  21:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Jander Sunstar's Homepage Send Jander Sunstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kazgaroth is kind of a dino
altough it is defined as tyronosour
I can use them as a sort of drogon but animal intellegence will be an obstacle for them

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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  04:40:18  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage  Click to see William of Waterdeep's MSN Messenger address Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rad

I agree ArionElenim. Ill never use dinosaurs in my campaign, it has no Realms feeling to it whatsoever. I leave them confined to Chult too but ive plenty of other jungle-dwelling creatures to throw in before needing to use dino's

I have never run the Jungles of Chult adventure module so dont know the plot of the adventure, but I think id substitute dino's for other creatures. I feel that TSR felt obliged to use dino's at the time as Jurassic Park was all the rage at the movies.





Wasn't Jurassic Park filmed in Chult?

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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  05:28:55  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Plus, Faerun tends to gravitate toward a fairly mideval approach to knowledge...(guns are just coming about...DaVinci's inventions are coming to fruition, etc)...our knowledge of dinos didn't come about until MUCH later...let alone the fact they had been DEAD for millions of centuries...

Then again, if Faerun can house Alaundo, its just not fair not to include ALL dinosaurs in the Realms...

(prepares to run)

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Alaundo
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  07:53:56  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ArionElenim

Plus, Faerun tends to gravitate toward a fairly mideval approach to knowledge...(guns are just coming about...DaVinci's inventions are coming to fruition, etc)...our knowledge of dinos didn't come about until MUCH later...let alone the fact they had been DEAD for millions of centuries...

Then again, if Faerun can house Alaundo, its just not fair not to include ALL dinosaurs in the Realms...

(prepares to run)



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Fibura Gauntlet
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  12:05:33  Show Profile  Visit Fibura Gauntlet's Homepage Send Fibura Gauntlet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Does anyone use dinos in their campaigns? It's never come up for me....I tend to think of them as secluded to Chult in a sort of "lost world" setting-if I think about them on Faerun at all!! Kinda silly, I think...
The was an adventure in Dungeon Magazine about 10 years ago called "Fiends of Tethyr" which pitted a host of dinosaurs against something nasty that an incautious spellcaster had summoned up.

The PC's were caught in the middle of course

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  15:46:23  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you look around, you'll find that Sage detailed a version of Chult without a single dinosaur. I've thought them to be one of the strangest things ever published for the Realms . . . .

Oh, and if you have "millions of centuries," that means more than 100,000,000 years ago. While there were certainly many dead species of the dinosaur class by that time (the Triassic having started almost 150 million years before that time), the so-called "Age of Dinosaurs" ended with the Cretaceous about 65 million years ago[::checks calander::] um, and change. So it's more like millions of decades.

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Arion Elenim
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  17:09:06  Show Profile  Visit Arion Elenim's Homepage  Click to see Arion Elenim's MSN Messenger address Send Arion Elenim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whew*

Luckily, I was wearing my +3 Ac Bonus Cloak vs. Expensive Tomes...glad I didn't have to use it.....

Sorry, Alaundo...couldn't help it...

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William of Waterdeep
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 :  21:03:01  Show Profile  Visit William of Waterdeep's Homepage  Click to see William of Waterdeep's MSN Messenger address Send William of Waterdeep a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was interested in how well he would take that Arion.Seems at least Alaundo can take a little humor fairly well, luckily for you.

Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.




Edited by - William of Waterdeep on 24 Oct 2003 02:14:39
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The Sage
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As the Bookwyrm stated, my version of Chult has no dinosaurs. My Faerun campaign also has very little 'dinosaur' activity...in the traditional sense.

However, for those of you familiar with the old Star Frontiers RPG, some of you may remember a reptile-like creature from one of the first adventure modules (as usual, the title escapes me...) that described a dinosaur-like creature more in tone with a fantasy setting (even though it is a Sci-Fi setting).

These creature types featured heavily in campaigns I ran several years ago around the Shaar, and the jungle-lands surrounding it. Since I have forgotten most of the exact details, I'll see if I can find the old adventure modules, and write-up a basic summary of the creatures for those of you who may be interested.


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Zimeros
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 :  15:26:58  Show Profile  Visit Zimeros's Homepage  Click to see Zimeros's MSN Messenger address Send Zimeros a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've used dinossaurs in some adventures, I think they're like other monsters. In last adventure that I was a player, not a DM, I saw a "dino hunter", he must capture the dinos and sell they in cormyr or sembia.
If you want, my friend that was the DM, has some informations of dinos and of "dino hunter", I can send to you.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 :  18:59:26  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My main problem with dinosaurs on Toril, as I believe I stated before, stems from the fact that the ecology of that world is so . . . hodgepodge. There are just too many species, in my opinion, especially of a certain size -- and far to many carnivorous species to boot. I'll suspend disbelief for some, especially as magic and cross-planar travel could easily make for a mighty strange ecosystem. But things like dinosaurs, who simply don't fit in, are almost begging to be dropped.

Still, at least they didn't make them another intelligent species. There are so many of those, it can get annoying.

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